44 dollars a day. 10k bankroll using simple chasing. It can easily be done nobody has the discipline tho.
							
						
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	pilebuck13SBR Posting Legend- 05-15-15
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 #1Could you clear 16k a year betting?Tags: None
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	 BostongamblerBARRELED IN @ SBR! BostongamblerBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 02-01-08
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 #2That’s how more rooms are added onto the casinos , Gomer.Comment
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	TommieGunshotSBR MVP- 03-27-12
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 #3No. If that was all I was making from betting on sports I would give it up.Comment
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	Eddy MunnyBenched- 08-13-13
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 #4Martingale?Comment
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	jjgoldSBR Aristocracy- 07-20-05
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 #5no
 
 Buckles your a massive squareComment
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	Bigbill365SBR MVP- 06-22-12
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 #6Yeah u can get %2-%5 arbs every day some arbs may be bets with low max but you can achieve that now add on free bets and deposit bonuses very manageableComment
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	pilebuck13SBR Posting Legend- 05-15-15
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 #7Lol definitely not. Bad discipline yes.Originally posted by jjgoldno
 
 Buckles your a massive squareComment
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	pilebuck13SBR Posting Legend- 05-15-15
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 #8SurelyOriginally posted by Eddy MunnyMartingale?Comment
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	 ChuckyTheGoatBARRELED IN @ SBR! ChuckyTheGoatBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 04-04-11
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 #9Honest answer:
 
 1) At one time, Yes.
 2) Now, No.
 
 A few reasons:
 a) Oddsmaker lines get sharper and sharper. In general.
 b) To produce the OPTIMAL portfolio, you need to sacrifice time. That means PREPARATION and time just WAITING for your strike-price.
 c) Also, can't be caught flat-footed with incorrect information too often.
 
 In short, you may find it quite boring. Seeking out optimal lines on small-markets. Props, if u can do it.Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?Comment
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	 BostongamblerBARRELED IN @ SBR! BostongamblerBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 02-01-08
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 #10Tell that to the 1988 Baltimore orioles. 0-21 to start the season.Comment
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	d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 08-10-05
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 #11Yup. But just take the +EV side and pass on the other.Originally posted by Bigbill365Yeah u can get %2-%5 arbs every day some arbs may be bets with low max but you can achieve that now add on free bets and deposit bonuses very manageableComment
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	pilebuck13SBR Posting Legend- 05-15-15
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 #12Honestly how many would you have to lose In a row to go bust…. I’m not talking about going on tilt and betting the Hawaii game I mean on a decent card through the week is it that hard to win 308 dollars…. No way I’d lose 10 bets In a row. Never have… now it gets obviously more interesting if your shooting for more money with limits…Comment
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	 ChuckyTheGoatBARRELED IN @ SBR! ChuckyTheGoatBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 04-04-11
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 #13I've lost 12 in a ROW on -110 lines.Originally posted by pilebuck13Honestly how many would you have to lose In a row to go bust…. I’m not talking about going on tilt and betting the Hawaii game I mean on a decent card through the week is it that hard to win 308 dollars…. No way I’d lose 10 bets In a row. Never have… now it gets obviously more interesting if your shooting for more money with limits…
 
 Amazingly, that came after going 90-60 on my previous 150 plays. Streaks are mostly meaningless. You regress to your normal plateau.
 
 If you're a losing player, that will surface pretty quickly. And if you keep throwing bad money after bad money, you might have a real problem.Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?Comment
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	pilebuck13SBR Posting Legend- 05-15-15
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 #14Never lost 10 in a row. I’m being honest here could you make 300 dollars with a 10 k bankroll and be done for the week? This is where the problem lies. The highest bankroll I obtained was 140k but greed will take you over. I still cashed out most of that thankfully but the betting got really reckless and borderlines insanity, idk think I lost close to 50k rams patriots Super Bowl only to get it back the next week…. Idk could discipline seriously be 90 percent the issue most bettors have?Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoatI've lost 12 in a ROW on -110 lines.
 
 Amazingly, that came after going 90-60 on my previous 150 plays. Streaks are mostly meaningless. You regress to your normal plateau.
 
 If you're a losing player, that will surface pretty quickly. And if you keep throwing bad money after bad money, you might have a real problem.Comment
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	stevenashModerator- 01-17-11
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 #151984 TigersOriginally posted by BostongamblerTell that to the 1988 Baltimore orioles. 0-21 to start the season.
 Started the season 35-5
 
 Lost two in a row only once.
 If you bet the 'three' system, (fade the three game losing streak, tail the three game win streak until it ends), you would have already cleared over 20* flat betting alone.
 
 If you're a dime baseball player, making sharp spot bets, dogs only, it's obtainable.
 I'm not a big timer, hardly, but some of you old timers here may remember I was writing up Oriole games in 2016 when they were winning at like +160 dogs on a regular basis at an alarming rate.
 I'm pretty sure Laker Boy remembers.
 
 
 
 1984 Tigers
 
 
 Gm# Tm Opp W/L Streak 1 DET @ MIN W + 2 DET @ MIN W ++ 3 DET @ CHW W +++ 4 DET @ CHW W ++++ 5 DET @ CHW W +++++ 6 DET TEX W ++++++ 7 DET TEX W +++++++ 8 DET @ BOS W ++++++++ 9 DET KCR W-wo +++++++++ 10 DET KCR L - 11 DET CHW W-wo + 12 DET CHW W ++ 13 DET CHW W +++ 14 DET MIN W-wo ++++ 15 DET MIN W +++++ 16 DET @ TEX W ++++++ 17 DET @ TEX W +++++++ 18 DET CLE L - 19 DET CLE W + 20 DET CLE W ++ 21 DET BOS W +++ 22 DET BOS L - 23 DET BOS L -- 24 DET @ CLE W + 25 DET @ CLE W ++ 26 DET @ CLE W +++ 27 DET @ KCR W ++++ 28 DET @ KCR W +++++ 29 DET @ KCR W ++++++ 30 DET CAL W +++++++ 31 DET CAL L - 32 DET SEA W + 33 DET SEA W ++ 34 DET SEA W +++ 35 DET OAK W ++++ 36 DET OAK W +++++ 37 DET OAK W ++++++ 38 DET @ CAL W +++++++ 39 DET @ CAL W ++++++++ 40 DET @ CAL W +++++++++ Comment
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	d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 08-10-05
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 #16You must not bet a lot of games. Just looking at games graded at one book I've had win and loss streaks of more than 10 many times. Because I place a lot of wagers. Hundreds per week. Tens of thousands per year. Get to a large number of wagers and you'll see it all.Originally posted by pilebuck13Never lost 10 in a row. I’m being honest here could you make 300 dollars with a 10 k bankroll and be done for the week? This is where the problem lies. The highest bankroll I obtained was 140k but greed will take you over. I still cashed out most of that thankfully but the betting got really reckless and borderlines insanity, idk think I lost close to 50k rams patriots Super Bowl only to get it back the next week…. Idk could discipline seriously be 90 percent the issue most bettors have?Comment
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	 BostongamblerBARRELED IN @ SBR! BostongamblerBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 02-01-08
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 #17Baseball is a totally different animal. We acknowledged the wise guys would bet the pitchers. Now ok, maybe bet the pitchers first give cuz every team has a 6th, 7th , 8th inning guy , then the closer.
 
 
 Also the worst teams still win 60 games a year. If they go 60-102 that’s a ton of games they will be big dogs in.Comment
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	pilebuck13SBR Posting Legend- 05-15-15
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 #18Not even 100 in a week not even close maybe 20-25 a week topsOriginally posted by d2betsYou must not bet a lot of games. Just looking at games graded at one book I've had win and loss streaks of more than 10 many times. Because I place a lot of wagers. Hundreds per week. Tens of thousands per year. Get to a large number of wagers and you'll see it all.Comment
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	d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 08-10-05
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 #19That's why it's hard to lose 10 in a row. Give it enough time and you'll see it all.Originally posted by pilebuck13Not even 100 in a week not even close maybe 20-25 a week topsComment
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	DrunkHorseplayerSBR Hall of Famer- 05-15-10
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 #20Yes you can but not by chasing, that won't work.Comment
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	TheMoneyShotBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 02-14-07
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 #21I think OP meant clearing +44 every day. How you clear it.... is on you. But yeah... you'd have to do some form of Martingale.Comment
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	pilebuck13SBR Posting Legend- 05-15-15
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 #2244 a day or whatever that works 308 a week…. On a weekly basisOriginally posted by TheMoneyShotI think OP meant clearing +44 every day. How you clear it.... is on you. But yeah... you'd have to do some form of Martingale.Comment
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	d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 08-10-05
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 #23Uhhhh, no.Originally posted by TheMoneyShotI think OP meant clearing +44 every day. How you clear it.... is on you. But yeah... you'd have to do some form of Martingale.
 
 But if you are talking exactly +44 each day, only way is scalps. It's possible, but too restrictive.Comment
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	pilebuck13SBR Posting Legend- 05-15-15
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 #24I simply divided the number broke it into a small daily amount. I’d move it more on a weekly basis myself. Why does everyone honestly believe martingale is just a losing strategy… it’s honestly not with discipline and a large enough bankroll. Trying to beat the number takes so much dedication it would be a full time job and hard to do at that.Originally posted by d2betsUhhhh, no.
 
 But if you are talking exactly +44 each day, only way is scalps. It's possible, but too restrictive.Comment
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	mjsuax13Moderator- 03-14-15
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 #25Zero discipline. More likely to fire a $5k shot and lose than be patient grinding it out. You know the drill!Originally posted by pilebuck1344 dollars a day. 10k bankroll using simple chasing. It can easily be done nobody has the discipline tho.Comment
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	asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer- 07-23-17
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 #26Martingale works every time except once
 
 Unfortunately, that one time is where you lose your entire bankrollComment
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	pilebuck13SBR Posting Legend- 05-15-15
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 #27How many people in here can honestly grind out any season of major sport and bet 2 percent of roll never lay juice and consistently beat the closer…… lol like no one really in here. But yet this is the advice they give everyone damn well knowing they probably have 0 idea of value and will never beat the numbers…. Nor do they have the time to beat the number…..Comment
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	mjsuax13Moderator- 03-14-15
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 #28You know how it goes brother! I can’t do 2% for a week. Hope you are well pal.Originally posted by pilebuck13How many people in here can honestly grind out any season of major sport and bet 2 percent of roll never lay juice and consistently beat the closer…… lol like no one really in here. But yet this is the advice they give everyone damn well knowing they probably have 0 idea of value and will never beat the numbers…. Nor do they have the time to beat the number…..Comment
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	pilebuck13SBR Posting Legend- 05-15-15
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 #29I’m good brother! Happy, healthy! Your a good man!Originally posted by mjsuax13You know how it goes brother! I can’t do 2% for a week. Hope you are well pal.Comment
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	mjsuax13Moderator- 03-14-15
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 #30You are a good man! Glad you have been focusing on your health and happiness my friend. Take care of yourself brother.Originally posted by pilebuck13I’m good brother! Happy, healthy! Your a good man!Comment
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	 ChuckyTheGoatBARRELED IN @ SBR! ChuckyTheGoatBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 04-04-11
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 #31Buck, I had to think a little more about your Q. I know Bonuses aren't what they used to be. But Specials and Bonuses have to be worth something.Originally posted by pilebuck1344 dollars a day. 10k bankroll using simple chasing. It can easily be done nobody has the discipline tho.
 
 If you include Bonuses with Handicappers...I think your $16k goal is modest and achievable. Why not?
 
 2.60x your nut on a $10k start. My question would be: *What markets are you attacking?
 
 Have to have 2 or 3 good wrenches in your toolkit. Markets where you KNOW you're betting into an edge.
 
 Handicapping is not ez. And most people will talk themselves into thinking they're +EV. When they're just throwing shit against the wall.Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?Comment
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	pilebuck13SBR Posting Legend- 05-15-15
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 #32Chucky it’s purely hypothetical, I don’t have the patience or discipline needed to manage that…. Do I think I could do it? Probably. Would the time and dedication be worth it? Idk….. I just believe if your not spot betting 99 percent will never make money due to the juice…..Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoatBuck, I had to think a little more about your Q. I know Bonuses aren't what they used to be. But Specials and Bonuses have to be worth something.
 
 If you include Bonuses with Handicappers...I think your $16k goal is modest and achievable. Why not?
 
 2.60x your nut on a $10k start. My question would be: *What markets are you attacking?
 
 Have to have 2 or 3 good wrenches in your toolkit. Markets where you KNOW you're betting into an edge.
 
 Handicapping is not ez. And most people will talk themselves into thinking they're +EV. When they're just throwing shit against the wall.Comment
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	 ChuckyTheGoatBARRELED IN @ SBR! ChuckyTheGoatBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 04-04-11
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 #33Buck, my two cents. It boils down to a math question. Can you carve out enough +EV plays to create a Compound Interest machine?
 
 Very hard. And you don't get to just bet at post. As a bettor, it's your responsibility to optimize your string of bets.
 
 That means a lot of screen-watching and making sure you get 5-cents better etc. Long story short, I think it's POSSIBLE.
 
 But you have to have multiple outs and ability to get down at the right time. Out doing something else...and you missed the peak #? That's on you.
 
 Interesting topic. Can carve out an edge. But likely NOT windfall profits.Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?Comment
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	The KrakenBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 12-25-11
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 #34Im sure you could do it, but not sure you could do it year after yearComment
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	OrbisonSBR MVP- 09-07-20
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 #35you can do it in Colorado but you'll need a lot of burner phones..Comment
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