Teams also get up for Philadelphia and Embiid, especially now that Philly has Harden, everyone knows Denver isn't a contender without Murray so teams are often flat against them.
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thomorinoRestricted User
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stevenashModerator
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#352The argument here is Strength of Schedule, not what conference is better.Originally posted by thomorinoI'm rolling, you are falling apart. Embiid is the best player in the NBA right now, Jokic isn't top 5. Just stop. Strength schedule and common sense make Embiid the clear MVP - just as the market are pricing it.
This is the part of the thread where I blow your argument clear out of the water and into oblivion.
First off have you ever heard of Jeff Sagarin?
He's the greatest mathematician alive, and he's also in charge of producing these numbers to the NBA and other sources like USA Today who pays him boatloads of money to do so.
Why don't you read up on how SoS is calculated before you make up your silly lies based on your silly opinions.
There are reasons the top three teams in the NBA (Phoenix, Utah, GSW) regarding the toughest SoS are all in the west, that being they play tough east teams too.
I could explain why, but let's see if you can tell me why?
And before answering remember you're dealing with a highly advanced math mind, that being me who has destroyed many of others' debates much greater than yours.
Read.
Stay on topic.Comment -
thomorinoRestricted User
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#353Wrong, the problem with your strength of schedule argument is you are just going off the record of teams. The top teams in the East don't have as good of records as teams like Phoenix because they are constantly playing each other. You can't judge how good a team is just by their record, so the way you are calculating strength of schedule makes no sense.Originally posted by stevenashThe argument here is Strength of Schedule, not what conference is better.
This is the part of the thread where I blow your argument clear out of the water and into oblivion.
First off have you ever heard of Jeff Sagarin?
He's the greatest mathematician alive, and he's also in charge of producing these numbers to the NBA and other sources like USA Today who pays him boatloads of money to do so.
Why don't you read up on how SoS is calculated before you make up your silly lies based on your silly opinions.
There are reasons the top three teams in the NBA (Phoenix, Utah, GSW) regarding the toughest SoS are all in the west, that being they play tough east teams too.
I could explain why, but let's see if you can tell me why?
And before answering remember you're dealing with a highly advanced math mind, that being me who has destroyed many of others' debates much greater than yours.
Read.
Stay on topic.
As usual you are wrong.Comment -
stevenashModerator
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#354Today's your lucky day.Originally posted by thomorinoWrong, the problem with your strength of schedule argument is you are just going off the record of teams. The top teams in the East don't have as good of records as teams like Phoenix because they are constantly playing each other. You can't judge how good a team is just by their record, so the way you are calculating strength of schedule makes no sense.
As usual you are wrong.
I'm going to tutor you in math.
You can look this up because I'm licensed, I get 95 dollars an hour to to tutor math, and 125 dollars to tutor computer.
I'm not going to charge you anything.
Oh, this is not my way of calculating things, this is the NBA's way of calculating things.
I'll dumb it down for a simple mind like yourself, as advanced math is clearly not your forte.
There are 82 regular season games.
East plays east 50 times.
East plays west 32 times.
And vice versa. (that means 'and the other way around'
50 divided into 82 = 60.9%
I'll round that number off so your simple base ten mind can follow and call it 60 percent.
That means 40 percent of the east conference games are played against west teams.
40 percent is a large percentage.
And this is how the NBA works the schedule every year.
- Four games (2 home, 2 away) against each of the other four teams in their division (there are six Divisions of 5 teams each) = 16 games
- Four games (2 home, 2 away) against six of the other 10 teams in their conference = 24 games
- Three games against the other four teams in their conference (1 home, 2 away vs 2 teams, 2 home, 1 away against the other two) = 12 games
- 2 games (1 home, 1 away) against each of the 15 teams in the other conference = 30 games.
- Total : 82 games
There is a five year rotation, set by the league, which determines which Out of Division conference teams are played four times and which 3 in any given season, this guarantees that in any given set of 5 years, each team is in the “four game” pool 3 times and the “Three Game” pool twice. Further, of those two years in the “Three game” pool, one season will have 2 home and 1 away and the other the reverse.
So, given the information I just gave you provided by the NBA, even a simple mind now can tell me why the two teams with the two hardest (toughest) SoS comes from the Pacific Division.
Would you like me to tell you why?
Come on, you can figure it out.
Final point, the SoS is updated on a nightly basis.
Here's your link again.
No charge for the math lesson.
(this time)
https://sagarin.usatoday.com/2022-2/nba-team-ratings-2021-22/Comment -
Gmen30SBR MVP
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#355Just when I thought you couldn't be any dumber you once again outshine yourself.Originally posted by thomorinoWrong, the problem with your strength of schedule argument is you are just going off the record of teams. The top teams in the East don't have as good of records as teams like Phoenix because they are constantly playing each other. You can't judge how good a team is just by their record, so the way you are calculating strength of schedule makes no sense.
As usual you are wrong.
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HeadsterxSBR Posting Legend
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#356Originally posted by stevenashYou don't have a TV do you?
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stevenashModerator
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#357I have a blog and a podcast with my partner.Originally posted by Headsterx
(well, he's the boss of the podcast, I'm just the sidekick so to speak)Comment -
thomorinoRestricted User
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#358Originally posted by stevenashToday's your lucky day.
I'm going to tutor you in math.
You can look this up because I'm licensed, I get 95 dollars an hour to to tutor math, and 125 dollars to tutor computer.
I'm not going to charge you anything.
Oh, this is not my way of calculating things, this is the NBA's way of calculating things.
I'll dumb it down for a simple mind like yourself, as advanced math is clearly not your forte.
There are 82 regular season games.
East plays east 50 times.
East plays west 32 times.
And vice versa. (that means 'and the other way around'
50 divided into 82 = 60.9%
I'll round that number off so your simple base ten mind can follow and call it 60 percent.
That means 40 percent of the east conference games are played against west teams.
40 percent is a large percentage.
And this is how the NBA works the schedule every year.
- Four games (2 home, 2 away) against each of the other four teams in their division (there are six Divisions of 5 teams each) = 16 games
- Four games (2 home, 2 away) against six of the other 10 teams in their conference = 24 games
- Three games against the other four teams in their conference (1 home, 2 away vs 2 teams, 2 home, 1 away against the other two) = 12 games
- 2 games (1 home, 1 away) against each of the 15 teams in the other conference = 30 games.
- Total : 82 games
There is a five year rotation, set by the league, which determines which Out of Division conference teams are played four times and which 3 in any given season, this guarantees that in any given set of 5 years, each team is in the “four game” pool 3 times and the “Three Game” pool twice. Further, of those two years in the “Three game” pool, one season will have 2 home and 1 away and the other the reverse.
So, given the information I just gave you provided by the NBA, even a simple mind now can tell me why the two teams with the two hardest (toughest) SoS comes from the Pacific Division.
Would you like me to tell you why?
Come on, you can figure it out.
Final point, the SoS is updated on a nightly basis.
Here's your link again.
No charge for the math lesson.
(this time)
https://sagarin.usatoday.com/2022-2/nba-team-ratings-2021-22/Originally posted by Gmen30Just when I thought you couldn't be any dumber you once again outshine yourself.
Wrong. Again, this is pretty simple. If a team plays mostly bad teams, they will have a good record, that doesn't make them good. Judging strength of schedule based on just record makes no sense and its why, once again, your simple stats are wrong.Originally posted by Headsterx
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stevenashModerator
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#359Originally posted by thomorinoWrong. Again, this is pretty simple. If a team plays mostly bad teams, they will have a good record, that doesn't make them good. Judging strength of schedule based on just record makes no sense and its why, once again, your simple stats are wrong.
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thomorinoRestricted User
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#360Jokic held completely scoreless in the 4th quarter against a Toronto team that isn't even good defensively, this after being almost shut out by Kevan Looney in the 4th last game.
Anyone can get stats in the first quarter of an NBA game, Jokic is falling apart repeatedly in the 4th quarter.
Embiid should able to end the MVP race by the end of next week, Jokic is going to need to be rested, he's falling apart repeatedly late in games.Comment -
stevenashModerator
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#361You know you're getting hammered in the other threads.Comment -
thomorinoRestricted User
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#362Jokic has scored 2 points in the last two 4 quarters he's played in. The MVP race should be over soon.Originally posted by stevenashYou know you're getting hammered in the other threads.Comment -
stevenashModerator
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#363STOP YOUR LYINGOriginally posted by thomorinoJokic has scored 2 points in the last two 4 quarters he's played in. The MVP race should be over soon.
Jokic scored eight points in the fourth quarter in the 117-111 win over Detroit.
Looks like I need to take you to math school again.
A pathological liar is one who can't help himself.
Unless you are making up lies trolling for responses, if that's the case I think you will be banned.
I'm pretty sure of it.
Let's ask the moderators, OK
Oh, STOP LYINGComment -
thomorinoRestricted User
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#364Jokic is getting owned repeatedly. You ve been caught lying.Originally posted by stevenashSTOP YOUR LYING
Jokic scored eight points in the fourth quarter in the 117-111 win over Detroit.
Looks like I need to take you to math school again.
A pathological liar is one who can't help himself.
Unless you are making up lies trolling for responses, if that's the case I think you will be banned.
I'm pretty sure of it.
Let's ask the moderators, OK
Oh, STOP LYINGComment -
BuckandadimeSBR Hall of Famer
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#365Originally posted by stevenashSTOP YOUR LYING
Jokic scored eight points in the fourth quarter in the 117-111 win over Detroit.
Looks like I need to take you to math school again.
A pathological liar is one who can't help himself.
Unless you are making up lies trolling for responses, if that's the case I think you will be banned.
I'm pretty sure of it.
Let's ask the moderators, OK
Oh, STOP LYING
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thomorinoRestricted User
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#366Embiid with yet another 40 point game, and unlike Jokic he scores in the 4th quarterComment -
stevenashModerator
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#367Embid did not score 40 points last night.
And he struggled to maintain 30 percent from the floor.
He misses entirely too many shots, case in point 9 for 28 is a good baseball batting average, but it's an awful shooting percentage.
His shooting percentage is pathetic.
Oh, your pathological lies are ineffective, your trolling for responses isn't working.
Oh, you've been reported.Comment -
thomorinoRestricted User
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#368BOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooom
Embiid making JOkic look like a child, just dominating him on every play, defensively, offensively, this is an epic beatdown
The MVP race ends tonight
Embiid is on the second night of a back-to-back alsoComment -
thomorinoRestricted User
- 06-01-17
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#369The MVP debate ended tonight.
Philly lost late because they were on the second night of a back to back after an overtime game but here are the numbers.
Embiid 34 points and he shot over 50% from the field
Jokic 22 points
The Best
Denver was -10 with Jokic on the court. Embiid dominated Jokic so badly that Denver's big 4th quarter run was with him off the court when the team went small.
Embiid was +3 and he completely dominated Jokic on both offense and defense all game.
Philly was 13 points better than Denver when both Embiid and Jokic were on the court tonight.
The MVP debate ended tonight. Finished.Comment -
stevenashModerator
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#370Jokic shit all over Embid.
Stop your lying,
Every night I expose you
*mic drop*
ByeComment -
stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#371Jokic was two assists short of another triple double.
Soft as ice cream couldn't even sniff a double double.
Jokic is the all around better center.
Exposing this guy for the fraud that he is on a nightly basis never gets old.Comment -
BcatswinSBR Posting Legend
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#372Need over pts reb ast tonight!Comment -
stevenashModerator
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#373For who, Jokic.Originally posted by BcatswinNeed over pts reb ast tonight!
He had a monster 22/13/8 against that overrated defensive center.Comment -
thomorinoRestricted User
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#374Embiid dominated Jokic in every way - and it wasn't close.
12 more points
Embiid was +3 on the court, Jokic was -10
Minus 10
Embiid completely dominated Jokic when both were on the courtComment -
BuckandadimeSBR Hall of Famer
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#375Seems a true MVP would be able to defend home court late in the season versus a "far weaker" Western Conference opponent..
That's pretty much the definition of MVP..
No???Comment -
stevenashModerator
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#376Embid is so overrated it's hilarious.Originally posted by BuckandadimeSeems a true MVP would be able to defend home court late in the season versus a "far weaker" Western Conference opponent..
That's pretty much the definition of MVP..
No???
He should have stayed down after he fell on his fat butt.
Know what's great about tonight?
Not only did Jokic crap all over Embid in the fourth, Towns, you remember him, the guy Morino fought about on Twitter, had a bigger night.
Never gets old Bucky, never gets old.
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thomorinoRestricted User
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#377Philly was on the second night of a back to back and Embiid dominates Jokic, just stopOriginally posted by BuckandadimeSeems a true MVP would be able to defend home court late in the season versus a "far weaker" Western Conference opponent..
That's pretty much the definition of MVP..
No???Comment -
thomorinoRestricted User
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#378Jokic did nothing most of the game, including in the 4th, boney Hyland had to bail him out, he was so badOriginally posted by stevenashEmbid is so overrated it's hilarious.
He should have stayed down after he fell on his fat butt.
Know what's great about tonight?
Not only did Jokic crap all over Embid in the fourth, Towns, you remember him, the guy Morino fought about on Twitter, had a bigger night.
Never gets old Bucky, never gets old.
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stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#379You want me to buy you a TV?Originally posted by thomorinoJokic did nothing most of the game, including in the 4th, boney Hyland had to bail him out, he was so bad
You clearly don't own one.
Jokic made Embid his personal meat puppet.
Stop embarrassing yourself, I expose you on a daily basis.Comment -
BuckandadimeSBR Hall of Famer
- 04-21-15
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#380Never...Originally posted by stevenashEmbid is so overrated it's hilarious.
He should have stayed down after he fell on his fat butt.
Know what's great about tonight?
Not only did Jokic crap all over Embid in the fourth, Towns, you remember him, the guy Morino fought about on Twitter, had a bigger night.
Never gets old Bucky, never gets old.

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stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#381He believes his own lies, that's scary.Originally posted by BuckandadimeNever...
Oh well, my work here is done.
I'm out.
You're in charge now,Comment -
juicernameSBR Hall of Famer
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#382Yet another lie. Jokic was not -10.Originally posted by thomorinoEmbiid dominated Jokic in every way - and it wasn't close.
12 more points
Embiid was +3 on the court, Jokic was -10
Minus 10
Embiid completely dominated Jokic when both were on the courtComment -
BuckandadimeSBR Hall of Famer
- 04-21-15
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#383Not me...Originally posted by stevenashHe believes his own lies, that's scary.
Oh well, my work here is done.
I'm out.
You're in charge now,
He's SBR's director of misinformation..
Its their job..Comment -
stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#384Tell me about it, I expose at least ten lies from him a week.Originally posted by juicernameYet another lie. Jokic was not -10.
Minimum.
He's unbelievable, literallyComment -
BuckandadimeSBR Hall of Famer
- 04-21-15
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#385Insult to injury, Embiid wasn't +3 either..Comment
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