Should Pete Rose be in the HOF?

[homie1975]

Rose should be in as a player. His mistakes came as a manager

the rules were clear since the Shoeless Joe Jackson days.

he broke them.

then he kept lying about.

EFF him.

no one gives two shitts about him now.

[Doublethink]

Baseball HOF

There is no definitive as to the birth of the game. The first officially recorded organized baseball match was in beautiful Hoboken, NJ. Elysian Field, raise the roof NJ people, but that is no longer there. The Hall of Fame is owned by private interests. Players are elected by BBWA or the Veterans Committee. Permanently ineligible players are Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson.https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...340-story.html

[Doublethink]

I'm not a lawyer but I don't think you can sue if there are no damages.
This should go to BuckyOne on #36

[Snowball]

Definitely belongs in the HOF.

Let him without sin cast the first stone.

[homie1975]

Definitely belongs in the HOF.

Let him without sin cast the first stone.

Snower,
Eff pete. Now pls come back into the stock thread where u belong !!

[MinnesotaFats]

Guys

If OJ Simpson is in the HOF then Rose & Bonds need to be in the HOF

Stop saying "rules". The HOF changed the rules 2 years after his settlement w MLB.

Bonds, Rose, Clemens, etc made us all smile and laugh and did not act in a way to destroy anyone's lives...

Simpson and Lewis literally killed people. Where's the rules for that.

Laws are man made limitations, they are more often oppression rather than justification. They are meant to be revised and reviewed if only to be corrected and balance the scales of justice

[Doublethink]

Ray Lewis plead guilty to obstruction of justice and OJ Simpson was found not guilty.

[RangeFinder]

Pete deserves to be in based on his merits as a player. He wasn't going to the HOF as a manager anyway, where all of his problems surfaced.

[Doublethink]

But...

https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/07/20/why-oj-simpson-prison

[Doublethink]

Rose should be in as a player. His mistakes came as a manager

I'll agree with that but the BBWA and the Veterans Committe aren't up with Peter being in the HOF. Maybe there is some outside organization that can support Peter being in the HOF?

[chico2663]

When rose got busted for tax evasion…he was being looked at for other things. My aunt is good friends with him. I played flag football in a league against him. Guy was a p.o.s.! Can’t tell u if he had a come to Jesus meeting but I will tell you a true story about Peter Edward rose. He stopped in a bar thay I hung out in. He bought a round while waiting to get his car serviced. Never went into his pocket to pay. As he was leaving gunny (who owned the bar) asked him for the money. Pete said you don’t expect me to pay. Gunny said he did. So Pete had a flunky go get his check book. He wrote the check and told gunny not to cash it because it will be worth more in years to come. Now I can tell many more secrets that are truths but not on a board.
Cincy is a small town if you know the right people.

[chico2663]

His first wife was a character.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

His first wife was a character.

Chico, got a question for you:

*Cincinnati OH is 100 miles from Louisville KY.

Did that play a factor at all in Rose getting too deep with bookies? It played a factor in the Paul Hornung incident. Gambling is part of the Louisville culture. Hornung grew up around it and it was normal to play the horses and associate with bookies.

Was gambling a distraction that Rose didn't have the willpower to turn off?

BTW, I'm in the minority. Rose shouldn't be in the HOF, imho. You need to know that what you're watching is square. Selig and Johnny Bench have argued (w/o asterisk) that Rose should NOT be in the HOF.

[MinnesotaFats]

<a href='https://postimages.org/' target='_blank'><img src='https://i.postimg.cc/bYmSBx5n/Group-near-helicopter-222-RESIZED.jpg' border='0' alt='Group-near-helicopter-222-RESIZED'/></a>

Rose gets 0 credit for the following, which I find interesting

Guy is a Mason

Was an Army Reservist- kept this active while playing

Toured Vietnam several times in 60s

Gave his hometown something to be prideful in

His memorabilia is for sale in Cooperstown

In the HOF is a theatre that shows his record breaking hit

He continues annually to raise money for Veterens issues and military charities.

[Doublethink]

Rose should be in as a player. His mistakes came as a manager

The Pete Rose Betting Scandal and Why He Should be in the Hall of Fame - Baseball Spotlight

[Doublethink]

The article says he bet on games as a player and a manager.

Rose should be in as a player. His mistakes came as a manager

<br>
<a href="https://www.baseballspotlight.com/why-pete-rose-should-be-in-the-hall-of-fame/">The Pete Rose Betting Scandal and Why He Should be in the Hall of Fame - Baseball Spotlight</a><br>

[thomorino]

As long as he apologizes yes, but he's never taken responsibility for anything.

[Doublethink]

Guys

https://youtu.be/pI3qAPglLbY

If OJ Simpson is in the HOF then Rose & Bonds need to be in the HOF

Stop saying "rules". The HOF changed the rules 2 years after his settlement w MLB.

Bonds, Rose, Clemens, etc made us all smile and laugh and did not act in a way to destroy anyone's lives...

Simpson and Lewis literally killed people. Where's the rules for that.

Laws are man made limitations, they are more often oppression rather than justification. They are meant to be revised and reviewed if only to be corrected and balance the scales of justice

What "rules" did the HOF change 2 years after Rose's settlement with MLB?

[MinnesotaFats]

What "rules" did the HOF change 2 years after Rose's settlement with MLB?

https://www.nytimes.com/1991/02/05/sports/board-says-rose-is-ineligible-for-hall-of-fame.html

It's even more comical that Ed Stack, the then President of the HOF is quoted as saying this isn't aimed strictly at Rose

Rose only signed his deal w MLB on 8/4/89 because he was done anyway. Done playing, HOF eligible the next year, ready to retire & sign autographs as the HOF hit king

I can't believe you are arguing about the topic of Rose & the HOF and are oblivious to how Rose was stabbed in the back by the HOF and yet, to this day, the HOF makes money off him.

[manny24]

if he can fake his death might be able to see himself enshrined the following year

that dragon lady he hangs out with should have connections to make it happen