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Should The NFL Change OT Rules?
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johnnyvegas13BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#36Comment -
edawgSBR MVP
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#37Give the offense the ball on their own 5 yard line and make it sudden death.Comment -
DwightShruteSBR Aristocracy
- 01-17-09
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#38Let's back up a little shall we. The Bills had the lead with 13 fukking seconds left.
First off, the kick-off should have been one of those line drive things so that the clock would start as soon as the Chiefs touched it.. That would have taken it down to 9 or 10 seconds. Maybe less. And if it was less, they might have only had time for one play. Maybe.
Regardless, the Chiefs got the ball on their own 25 with 13 seconds left. In 2 plays they got enough yards to kick a FG and some are complaining about the OT rules. Its a free country but come on.Comment -
Eddy MunnyBenched
- 08-13-13
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#39You're stating the obvious.Originally posted by DwightShruteLet's back up a little shall we. The Bills had the lead with 13 fukking seconds left.
First off, the kick-off should have been one of those line drive things so that the clock would start as soon as the Chiefs touched it.. That would have taken it down to 9 or 10 seconds. Maybe less. And if it was less, they might have only had time for one play. Maybe.
Regardless, the Chiefs got the ball on their own 25 with 13 seconds left. In 2 plays they got enough yards to kick a FG and some are complaining about the OT rules. Its a free country but come on.
No one is exonerating the Bills coaching at the end of regulation. It was bad and it's be said ad infinitum.
The OT rules suck too.
Both those things can be true.
The problem with the latter is that it continues to mar games until it gets fixed.Comment -
DwightShruteSBR Aristocracy
- 01-17-09
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#40Ya I hear ya but it still comes down to the bill's D had 75 yards of field to prevent a TD in order to get a shot on offense and they couldn't stop them or hold them to a FG.Originally posted by Eddy MunnyYou're stating the obvious.
No one is exonerating the Bills coaching at the end of regulation. It was bad and it's be said ad infinitum.
The OT rules suck too.
Both those things can be true.
The problem with the latter is that it continues to mar games until it gets fixed.Comment -
DiggityDaggityDoSBR Aristocracy
- 11-30-08
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#41If college rules then KC would have had to go for the 2-pt conversion.Originally posted by DwightShrute
How did they win by 7???Comment -
Eddy MunnyBenched
- 08-13-13
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#42That's true, but in a game where teams were marching up and down the field to the tune of 72 points in regulation alone, the coin toss winner has a decisive advantage that has more to do with chance than merit.Originally posted by DwightShruteYa I hear ya but it still comes down to the bill's D had 75 yards of field to prevent a TD in order to get a shot on offense and they couldn't stop them or hold them to a FG.
In a game that goes to overtime tied 10-10, I guess you could argue a touchdown on the first possession of OT decides a winner. But this was a game that was an entirely different animal, as most modern NFL games are. They need to modify the rules to fit the game, and to level the playing field just as it was in the first 60 minutes. It wouldn't even require that drastic of a change.Comment -
MinnesotaFatsSBR Posting Legend
- 12-18-10
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#43You play to win the game
Don't let it come down to a FG
Don't play for OTComment -
Eddy MunnyBenched
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#44So you think the Chiefs should've tried a hail mary on the final play of regulation instead of a game tying field goal.Originally posted by MinnesotaFatsYou play to win the game
Don't let it come down to a FG
Don't play for OT
Got it.Comment -
DwightShruteSBR Aristocracy
- 01-17-09
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#45hahaOriginally posted by DiggityDaggityDoIf college rules then KC would have had to go for the 2-pt conversion.
How did they win by 7???Comment -
Rich BoySBR Hall of Famer- 02-01-09
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#46The live line went from KC -120 to -200 after winning the coin toss, so books are saying it impacts the game quite significantlyComment -
OrbisonSBR MVP
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#47each offense gets the ball and then sudden death after that, keep it simple
don't like the idea of having the teams play another full 15 min qtr because it could still be tied after that. then what?... sudden death after that?... ok, then how is it decided who gets the ball first for this 2nd OT period? now we're back to the same problem again.Comment -
Eddy MunnyBenched
- 08-13-13
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#48Yeah, you first sentence is the easiest and most obvious amendment that should be made. It's baffling that was never the rule in the first place. Then you would probably have some teams defer the kickoff because they know they'll get a possession regardless and they'll have a clear idea of what's needed to win the game.Originally posted by Orbisoneach offense gets the ball and then sudden death after that, keep it simple
don't like the idea of having the teams play another full 15 min qtr because it could still be tied after that. then what?... sudden death after that?... ok, then how is it decided who gets the ball first for this 2nd OT period? now we're back to the same problem again.
I guess you could argue that if both teams score touchdowns, then you're kinda back to the dilemma of one team having an extra possession if they score again on their 2nd opportunity.Comment -
jtolerBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 12-17-13
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#49bills are the number 1 ranked defense, nobody had scored 36 in regulation on them all season. if u dont win a coin toss in OT u have the next best thing, the number 1 ranked defense in the league wut more could one ask for. besides mike white(garbage time), brady, and mahomes no qb had thrown for more than 216 yds against bills all season, only 3 out of 19 times. thats crazy good and only mahomes yesterday has now thrown for more than 300 in regulation. therefore in that OT situation after losing the coin toss its almost safe to say they hold everyone else to a fg or less and get the ball back, except the chiefs of course.Comment -
Brock LandersSBR Aristocracy
- 06-30-08
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#50Absolutely not
Play defense if you want the ball backComment -
MinnesotaFatsSBR Posting Legend
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#51No, what I'm saying is that Buffalo should have made a play instead of pinching the sidelines when KC had TOs anyway.Originally posted by Eddy MunnySo you think the Chiefs should've tried a hail mary on the final play of regulation instead of a game tying field goal.
Got it.
Buffalo did not play to win the game, Buffalo played "prevent" which forced KC to execute perfect plays 2xs & hit a monster fg.
They did.
You have to play to win, not play down to the other team.
Buffalo has Noone to blame but themselves.Comment -
Eddy MunnyBenched
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#52Chiefs played for overtime though. You said don't do that. I'm just quoting you.Originally posted by MinnesotaFatsNo, what I'm saying is that Buffalo should have made a play instead of pinching the sidelines when KC had TOs anyway.
Buffalo did not play to win the game, Buffalo played "prevent" which forced KC to execute perfect plays 2xs & hit a monster fg.
They did.
You have to play to win, not play down to the other team.
Buffalo has Noone to blame but themselves.
Buffalo on the other hand wasn't actually "playing for overtime." They just shat the bed and overtime happened.Comment -
MinnesotaFatsSBR Posting Legend
- 12-18-10
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#53Chiefs had 0 other options because, they too, did not play to win the game on defense earlier.Originally posted by Eddy MunnyChiefs played for overtime though. You said don't do that. I'm just quoting you.
Buffalo on the other hand wasn't actually "playing for overtime." They just shat the bed and overtime happened.
That KC kicked a FG is the result of lack of options w3 seconds left...that KC was losing at that point is the result of their defense failing miserably to win the game.
The OT rule, as is, is just fine.
Both teams could have won the game in regulation if their defense made 1 fukking play.
After 60 minutes of that trash, a cointoss is fair enough. Make a play on defense...it won't matter.Comment -
Eddy MunnyBenched
- 08-13-13
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#54Well you could've summed all that up in three words: win in regulation.Originally posted by MinnesotaFatsChiefs had 0 other options because, they too, did not play to win the game on defense earlier.
That KC kicked a FG is the result of lack of options w3 seconds left...that KC was losing at that point is the result of their defense failing miserably to win the game.
The OT rule, as is, is just fine.
Both teams could have won the game in regulation if their defense made 1 fukking play.
After 60 minutes of that trash, a cointoss is fair enough. Make a play on defense...it won't matter.
That's generally what teams set out to do, I don't think this is groundbreaking strategy.Comment -
floridagolferSBR MVP
- 12-19-08
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#55In the current format, what happens if a team gets the ball in OT, keeps possession for 9:59 and then kicks a field goal? We've all been told both teams get a chance to possess the ball; is that actually true 100 percent of the time?Comment -
stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#56Like myself, brevity is not Fatty's forte.Originally posted by Eddy MunnyWell you could've summed all that up in three words: win in regulation.
That's generally what teams set out to do, I don't think this is groundbreaking strategy.Comment -
Slipknot26SBR Hall of Famer
- 07-17-15
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#57Christ , it's a pretty decent rule now
Simply hold out of the end zone, you can win
Lets be honest
As soon as the last second FG went through the uprights, Buffalo was a Beat Ass
Everyone knew itComment -
StallionSBR MVP
- 03-21-10
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#58No! One game shouldn't change anything. The Chiefs wanted the rule change 3 years ago and it didn't happen.Comment -
STANDARD BETSBR High Roller
- 05-10-19
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#59Yep and the bills were one of the many that voted against it lolOriginally posted by StallionNo! One game shouldn't change anything. The Chiefs wanted the rule change 3 years ago and it didn't happen.Comment -
jackpot269SBR Posting Legend- 09-24-07
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#60Try to forget about this game and just think about the overtime rules!!Originally posted by DwightShruteLet's back up a little shall we. The Bills had the lead with 13 fukking seconds left.
First off, the kick-off should have been one of those line drive things so that the clock would start as soon as the Chiefs touched it.. That would have taken it down to 9 or 10 seconds. Maybe less. And if it was less, they might have only had time for one play. Maybe.
Regardless, the Chiefs got the ball on their own 25 with 13 seconds left. In 2 plays they got enough yards to kick a FG and some are complaining about the OT rules. Its a free country but come on.Comment -
Eddy MunnyBenched
- 08-13-13
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#61One game? Lol, this rule has been mulled over repeatedly since its inception.Originally posted by StallionNo! One game shouldn't change anything. The Chiefs wanted the rule change 3 years ago and it didn't happen.
It's just easy to file it away and ignore when it only affects a small % of games.
It's still a bad rule. I would predict change is coming. It usually takes a game like last night's, with that big of a spotlight, to finally goad the committee to review something.Comment -
jackpot269SBR Posting Legend- 09-24-07
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#62That is if time permits, so game over!!Originally posted by floridagolferIn the current format, what happens if a team gets the ball in OT, keeps possession for 9:59 and then kicks a field goal? We've all been told both teams get a chance to possess the ball; is that actually true 100 percent of the time?Comment -
slewfanSBR Posting Legend
- 10-01-15
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#63I think the overtime should be changed.. Instead of worrying about half time entertainment for the SB, those NFL geniuses should be getting together and tweaking the rules…
I also think the idiotic rule where the guy dives from out of bounds and reaches the ball on the goal line should be changed.. What an idiotic rule if you ask me.. The player should have at least half his body and the ball over the line.. JMO..Comment -
TheMoneyShotBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 02-14-07
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#64OT in the NFL doesn't need to be changed. If you allow the other team to score a TD in OT.... get the fukk off the field and head down the tunnel. You lost.Comment -
hawkwindSBR MVP- 04-25-11
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#65NO if U Don't Like it Stop thed 1ST Possesion & Score U Sorry MF AH'SComment -
jackpot269SBR Posting Legend- 09-24-07
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#66Originally posted by floridagolferIn the current format, what happens if a team gets the ball in OT, keeps possession for 9:59 and then kicks a field goal? We've all been told both teams get a chance to possess the ball; is that actually true 100 percent of the time?<br>Originally posted by jackpot269
That is if time permits, so game over!!
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That was for regular season here is what the rules say
No more than one 10-minute period will follow a three-minute intermission.
For playoffs it said
- If the score is still tied at the end of an overtime period — or if the second team’s initial possession has not ended — the teams will play another overtime period. Play will continue regardless of how many overtime periods are needed for a winner to be determined.
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Slurry PumperSBR MVP
- 06-18-18
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#67The only thing I don't like about the rule is the 10 minutes during the regular season. I would like to see that be 15 minutes like a regular quarter. So 1 team couldn't just hand the ball off eat 9:30 off the clock and kick a field goal to win. Sure it isn't beyond the realm of normal to see a 7:30 timed drive, so make it 15 minutes and keep all the other stuff the same. Maybe add a time out.Comment -
semibluffSBR MVP
- 04-12-16
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#68Winning the coin flip and electing to receive is an advantage. Giving a team a right to match or better on every possession gives the 2nd team an advantage.
I think the team winning the coin flip should have the choice of picking an end to defend, kicking the ball away as normal, or starting at their own 10 yard line without a kick-off. If they pick an end to defend the other team would have the choice of kicking or receiving as normal. This wouldn't be even but it would be fairer.Comment -
KermitBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 09-27-10
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#69Problem is that neither team in this game had a fresh defense to play in OT. They were both cooked. Whomever won the coin toss won the game.Comment -
pavyracerSBR Aristocracy
- 04-12-07
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#70I'm just saying find a way that the coin toss is not random so that each team has the same chance of getting the ball first with a football type play. I thought FGs is something that is even for both teams.Originally posted by jackpot269Pros hit 50 today like they did 40 just a few years ago make them kick 55 or 60Comment
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