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  • ABEHONEST
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 06-27-09
    • 9470

    #1
    Our precious basketball has evolved too far with the same rules
    Here's the medicine:
    3-ponts shooting and ducking, both are getting tiresome and boring. I mean, really getting manotonus. That's all these teams want to do, it seems?
    The fix, then we can get back to more interesting basketball. Remember fundamentals like, assists, and better free-throw shooting? With less of those two above, you will see much more of these, and this will lead to better entertainment, along with a better mixture of basketball, while creating many more fundamental features.

    First, raise the rim 4 inches for college ball. That will thin the 3-shooting out, and also, will trim the sky high-dunking, and the wild celebrations afterwards.

    If you do neither, knowing it's a cinch it will happen in our near future anyway, then make that three-shot worth only 2 -1/2 points. Yes, definitely.

    Okay on to the NBA:
    Raise that rim 6 inches and watch the game become 25% more entertaining. With more assists and far less 3-pointers, and add the other overrated thing, plenty of less dunking.
    Or, like I suggested for college, a 2-1/2 point threebie?

    As I predict, and come on, it's not rocket-science, because the NBA, many times, is just too professioal and dominated by those two-way over-worked basketball choices I have talked about.

    And look at these modern basketball facts?
    The players are getting taller each year, it seems? Can you find a ranked college team that doesn't have at least 1, 7-footer? How about two?

    And Afriica seems to be bringing the tallest ones in, routinely. And are they not normally, having the tallest humans on earth?
    We now have teams fixed with a7-2, 7-3, and even at least one 7-4, I believe?
    You think they wil start recruiting shorter basketball players? Hah.

    Who wants to agree with a couple of my opinions?
    * If you're a major basketball fan, then you know it's coming?
  • trobin31
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-09-14
    • 9853

    #2
    Sooooo you want to autocratically change the rules of the game bc you don’t find it palatable... I don’t like a lot of things but the world is a free market to evolve with its largest consumer... you have basically decided to adjust everything to suit your dictatorial needs like you are Kim Jung Un or something
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    • rm18
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 09-20-05
      • 22291

      #3
      Dunking is way down because of lack of foul calls at rim and intentional fouls to stop breaks. Also guys smarter to just lay it up angle wise and not giving guys the time to block a gather dunk attempt.
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      • eidolon
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 01-02-08
        • 9531

        #4
        Move the 3 point lines to 28 feet
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        • unusialsusp5
          SBR MVP
          • 04-18-10
          • 4198

          #5
          Make the circumference of the rims the same size as the ones at the carnivals. No reason to raise them higher but those rebound numbers will skyrocket. 3 pt. shots are just as easy as free throws now with all the practicing these guys have done perfecting it.
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          • seaborneq
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 09-08-06
            • 22556

            #6
            Originally posted by unusialsusp5
            Make the circumference of the rims the same size as the ones at the carnivals. No reason to raise them higher but those rebound numbers will skyrocket. 3 pt. shots are just as easy as free throws now with all the practicing these guys have done perfecting it.
            Then nothing but dirty, drunk carnies would own the league. They can’t even dribble
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            • ABEHONEST
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 06-27-09
              • 9470

              #7
              Originally posted by trobin31
              Sooooo you want to autocratically change the rules of the game bc you don’t find it palatable... I don’t like a lot of things but the world is a free market to evolve with its largest consumer... you have basically decided to adjust everything to suit your dictatorial needs like you are Kim Jung Un or something
              Open up your mind a bit, Trobin.
              What did the league do when Wilt and Jabber were making mincemeat out of scoring and rebounding with dunks and easy drop in layups?
              They drastically changed the width of the foul line lanes. And maybe another rule too, I do not remember?

              Okay, let's go forward from those changes for another 35/40 years.
              Now we have athletes reminding us of Cheetahs, Lions and Buffaloes.
              They run faster and jump higher [shocker there ].

              Now, add the size of water buffaloes surrounding the basket as soon as a shot is fired?

              This is the modern era of the evolution of basketball.
              It's past time for the changing of a minimum of 2 profound rules!
              What are they waiting for? In 10 years, these basketball players may have an average height of 7'3 inches?

              *And for whatever it's worth to Whites or Blacks, our little white boys are normally lost on the far end of the bench, for many top-Ten teams.
              ** The point: Our fundamentals are taking fast break to become extinct.
              *** So I say again, mix these rules up to where basketball fundamentals are again, looking like team basketball rather than a shot for exocit animals on display.
              **** And nope, no disrespect to Blacks, but we know plenty who do have this extraordinary physical ability, much like the swiftest, the strongest, and the most dominant on Planet Basketball.

              Just sprinke some rules in so to keep these phenoms watered down a bit.

              Rules must fitting for the superior athletes of today. Duh-2.
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              • texhooper
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 01-05-09
                • 10001

                #8
                Just gonna take this as satire. Abe you’re a comedic genius
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                • ChuckyTheGoat
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 04-04-11
                  • 37438

                  #9
                  I hate the 3-pt shot. Changed all the angles. Made it a lesser game, IMHO.

                  Used to be a big-game man. Specifically, it was a game designed to CREATE hi% shots. And that was the creativity.

                  Sorry, I don't find the modern game to be entertaining. Spreading the floor makes it a DIFFERENT game.
                  Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                  • pavyracer
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 04-12-07
                    • 82839

                    #10
                    Bettter FT shooting and more fouls will kill the game. Who wants to see a game where teams don't take 3 point shots, don't dunk and only foul so they can make the FTs they have been practicing? Would you watch a game that each team shot 70 FTS each and made 65 of them?
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                    • ABEHONEST
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 06-27-09
                      • 9470

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                      I hate the 3-pt shot. Changed all the angles. Made it a lesser game, IMHO.

                      Used to be a big-game man. Specifically, it was a game designed to CREATE hi% shots. And that was the creativity.

                      Sorry, I don't find the modern game to be entertaining. Spreading the floor makes it a DIFFERENT game.
                      Thank you for that open-mind.
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                      • jtoler
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                        • 12-17-13
                        • 30967

                        #12
                        blame the rules changers not the pllayers. same rules? wut world are u living in
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                        • trobin31
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 01-09-14
                          • 9853

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ABEHONEST
                          Open up your mind a bit, Trobin.
                          What did the league do when Wilt and Jabber were making mincemeat out of scoring and rebounding with dunks and easy drop in layups?
                          They drastically changed the width of the foul line lanes. And maybe another rule too, I do not remember?

                          Okay, let's go forward from those changes for another 35/40 years.
                          Now we have athletes reminding us of Cheetahs, Lions and Buffaloes.
                          They run faster and jump higher [shocker there ].

                          Now, add the size of water buffaloes surrounding the basket as soon as a shot is fired?

                          This is the modern era of the evolution of basketball.
                          It's past time for the changing of a minimum of 2 profound rules!
                          What are they waiting for? In 10 years, these basketball players may have an average height of 7'3 inches?

                          *And for whatever it's worth to Whites or Blacks, our little white boys are normally lost on the far end of the bench, for many top-Ten teams.
                          ** The point: Our fundamentals are taking fast break to become extinct.
                          *** So I say again, mix these rules up to where basketball fundamentals are again, looking like team basketball rather than a shot for exocit animals on display.
                          **** And nope, no disrespect to Blacks, but we know plenty who do have this extraordinary physical ability, much like the swiftest, the strongest, and the most dominant on Planet Basketball.

                          Just sprinke some rules in so to keep these phenoms watered down a bit.

                          Rules must fitting for the superior athletes of today. Duh-2.
                          Not saying I don’t agree Basketball is unwatchable, but doesn’t mean people should come in and make drastic changes...things evolve, I still see kids hooping in the lot same as always...just different generation.
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                          • texhooper
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-05-09
                            • 10001

                            #14
                            What do people cheer the most for?

                            Dunks and threes.

                            They’re never going away.
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                            • ABEHONEST
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 06-27-09
                              • 9470

                              #15
                              Originally posted by pavyracer
                              Bettter FT shooting and more fouls will kill the game. Who wants to see a game where teams don't take 3 point shots, don't dunk and only foul so they can make the FTs they have been practicing? Would you watch a game that each team shot 70 FTS each and made 65 of them?
                              I JUST DON'T SEE YOUR POINT?
                              One of the best ideas just may be reducing that 3 point value to 2-1/2, as I hinted at? This certainly would reduce the high percentage of long shots attempted, because, for one, with seconds left in the game and you're down 3 points, you'll need more than that 2-1/2 points to win it. So you try to get a shot and a foul, both, maybe? So the three is gone and now the 2-1/2 shot is drastically reduced of its power too, so now we can go back to real more entertaining basketball. Lose by a 1/2 point, win by a 1/2 point.

                              And there is no way I can see not raising that rim, even with this 3-pointer gone? Gotta get that rim up at least 1 to 3 inches, but that change would need to go along with this change I just submitted.

                              THAT 3-POINTER IS THE WORST CHANGE IN BASKETBALL, I CAN REMEMBER?
                              And add my sad story about those dominating 3-shots.
                              I saw the Michigan Wolverines, last March, as being in the top-5 of college baskets, actually, even better than that, and I had great odds, too.
                              Now, after seeing this, still, the desperation of attempting to make 3-shots, their season is practically ruined.
                              They are also, not making up for those pitiful 3 attempts in other facets either, so what can they do to make up for that pure lost waste, and with likely more waste coming in the next 15 games?

                              You tell me?
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                              • Smokey McPot
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 07-18-21
                                • 190

                                #16
                                People have speculated off and on for 50 years about raising the rim. It would have the opposite effect of what you are looking for, the tallest players/biggest leapers would still be the closest to the rim, so raising it isnt really going to help at all.
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                                • trobin31
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 01-09-14
                                  • 9853

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by ABEHONEST
                                  I JUST DON'T SEE YOUR POINT?
                                  One of the best ideas just may be reducing that 3 point value to 2-1/2, as I hinted at? This certainly would reduce the high percentage of long shots attempted, because, for one, with seconds left in the game and you're down 3 points, you'll need more than that 2-1/2 points to win it. So you try to get a shot and a foul, both, maybe? So the three is gone and now the 2-1/2 shot is drastically reduced of its power too, so now we can go back to real more entertaining basketball. Lose by a 1/2 point, win by a 1/2 point.

                                  And there is no way I can see not raising that rim, even with this 3-pointer gone? Gotta get that rim up at least 1 to 3 inches, but that change would need to go along with this change I just submitted.

                                  THAT 3-POINTER IS THE WORST CHANGE IN BASKETBALL, I CAN REMEMBER?
                                  And add my sad story about those dominating 3-shots.
                                  I saw the Michigan Wolverines, last March, as being in the top-5 of college baskets, actually, even better than that, and I had great odds, too.
                                  Now, after seeing this, still, the desperation of attempting to make 3-shots, their season is practically ruined.
                                  They are also, not making up for those pitiful 3 attempts in other facets either, so what can they do to make up for that pure lost waste, and with likely more waste coming in the next 15 games?

                                  You tell me?
                                  The point is this, you cannot arbitrarily change things by brute force simply bc you think it will make it optimal....this usual fails... if governments or sports teams could model perfection through force then everyone would be perfect....just let it live or die through evolution and stop being a snowflake
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                                  • MinnesotaFats
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 12-18-10
                                    • 14758

                                    #18
                                    Move 3 pt line IN to old spot. Will tighten up defense, less space for 23 footers
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                                    • ABEHONEST
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 06-27-09
                                      • 9470

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by texhooper
                                      What do people cheer the most for?

                                      Dunks and threes.

                                      They’re never going away.
                                      No, but what percentage of fans are sick and tired of those two basketball choices, dominating the purity of the game?
                                      What would old genius Wooden have to say? I think I know.

                                      Yes, basketball is evolving but the rules are not evolving but the players sure as hell are.

                                      * And no cares to answer me when I stated; White boys are rapidly becoming extinct starters. Next, it just may be, extinct from the bench?
                                      Will they--at a high percentage--drink their beer and watch the NBA games on the Tube? And if they do stop watching, the whole world of NBA will become, probably, a losing affair on the Tube?
                                      Why? Remember those lovely commericials every 5 minutes?
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                                      • pavyracer
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 04-12-07
                                        • 82839

                                        #20
                                        3 point shot and shot clock are the 2 most important innovations of the game and people want to eliminate them...lol

                                        Leave the game alone as is. Maybe add a 4 point shot for shots behind mid-court.
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                                        • trobin31
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 01-09-14
                                          • 9853

                                          #21
                                          I say make a 5 point shot, if you hit a fast break, which is the most exciting part of the game, you hit a shot within 10 seconds of shot clock, you got 5 points...how about that since we are making up rules
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                                          • trobin31
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 01-09-14
                                            • 9853

                                            #22
                                            If this isn’t a sign of the times I don’t know what is...


                                            you don’t like the way a game is being played, sure, just change the rules

                                            you don’t like your or ass, just get some gelatin injected

                                            dont like how your life turned out, blame the white, black, immigrant or Jew...hell even blame your spouse or kids

                                            dont Like election results, complete fraud, rigged.

                                            don’t like disease and death, all fiction to introduce the new world order


                                            Wake up and enjoy the world you are living in because it won’t last long and you will just spend it complaining like a B*tch who just needed to get fuked
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                                            • ABEHONEST
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 06-27-09
                                              • 9470

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by trobin31
                                              If this isn’t a sign of the times I don’t know what is...


                                              you don’t like the way a game is being played, sure, just change the rules

                                              you don’t like your or ass, just get some gelatin injected

                                              dont like how your life turned out, blame the white, black, immigrant or Jew...hell even blame your spouse or kids

                                              dont Like election results, complete fraud, rigged.

                                              don’t like disease and death, all fiction to introduce the new world order


                                              Wake up and enjoy the world you are living in because it won’t last long and you will just spend it complaining like a B*tch who just needed to get fuked
                                              Gosh, I am wrong again.
                                              I thought Vitterd had the most filthy mind and mouth?
                                              And there is a limit when someone uses a potty-mouth like yours?
                                              People might believe you to be half ignorant, half nuts?

                                              Not me, though, I'm impressed.
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                                              • ThaTopMoron
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                                                • 04-30-10
                                                • 27020

                                                #24
                                                i don't know about what he's proposing

                                                but....

                                                i haven't watched an NBA game yet... actually.... haven't even watched a college game

                                                i just don't care don't have a care in the world to bet on basketball
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                                                • lonegambler23
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                                                  • 06-22-16
                                                  • 9760

                                                  #25
                                                  abe you think way too much man
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                                                  • ABEHONEST
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 06-27-09
                                                    • 9470

                                                    #26
                                                    Here's my standard point: Do you not believe in Evolution?
                                                    Every single being, plants, trees, insects, fish in the sea, all the animals, and it's the same for humans, too.
                                                    You adapt to surive.

                                                    Look around you: Remember cell phones, 40 years ago"
                                                    Remember the first manned plane flight?
                                                    How about our automobiles?

                                                    Athletes going back a 100 years? Do they have any records that haven't been demolished yet? BAbe had a good one, gone now.

                                                    These modern athletes know, whatever field they choose to compete in, they work that body to extreme, eat only healthy foods, and why?
                                                    They want the glory; They want the fame; They want to win; Finally, they want the millions of dollars to be earned if they have the talent and the size for your chosen sport; the heart it takes; but at the end of the line, if the money isn't spectacular, they will let the competiton win because they wil have lost interest.

                                                    Heck, I am an average size man, well close anyway, yet, when I was in top physical shape, even I could put a hand on that, still, 10Ft. rim. Boy, that was many moons ago.
                                                    And it's still 10ft? Wow.

                                                    That three-pointer has taken over as the prime skill being used today. It dominates so much, you'll probably live or die with your teams' many attempts at that long shot?

                                                    Wasn't it the NBA the sports world saw just recently as one professional team, rapidly losing their fan-base?

                                                    It doesn't help either, not having the great commarade like teams we had just 35 years ago. The Celts; the Lakers; The 76'ers; and those rough and ready Detroit Piston bruisers.

                                                    Fix it today or fix it in 5 or 10 years but I guarantee you, that day is sure to come and I see it far too late already.

                                                    My voice has retired on this subject, and yes, I am disappointed in not seeing many basketball fans agreeing--not counting the college age kids--but especially the old die hard basketball fan's from the past 4 decades.
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                                                    • jjgold
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                      • 388179

                                                      #27
                                                      NBA for sure has to change like MLB
                                                      Same rules forever

                                                      Baseball really suffering more than the NBA
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                                                      • ABEHONEST
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 06-27-09
                                                        • 9470

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                                        NBA for sure has to change like MLB
                                                        Same rules forever

                                                        Baseball really suffering more than the NBA
                                                        Thank you, Old-Timer.
                                                        Add college basketball, too. Agree?
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                                                        • TommieGunshot
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 03-27-12
                                                          • 1607

                                                          #29
                                                          Raising the rim would make all shots more difficult. The 7' players could still dunk easily, which would make those shots even more valuable, as jump shots became more difficult. The three-point shot would still be worth 50% more than other baskets, and if shooting from 12-18' was even less efficient, than the three would also become more valuable. If you don't like a sport of dunks and 3s, a 10'6" basket would give you even more of what you dislike.

                                                          To lessen the effect of 3s, make the line 30'. To get less dunking, let the players hack each other and only call fouls on Kevin McHale clotheslines.
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                                                          • ABEHONEST
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 06-27-09
                                                            • 9470

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by TommieGunshot
                                                            Raising the rim would make all shots more difficult. The 7' players could still dunk easily, which would make those shots even more valuable, as jump shots became more difficult. The three-point shot would still be worth 50% more than other baskets, and if shooting from 12-18' was even less efficient, than the three would also become more valuable. If you don't like a sport of dunks and 3s, a 10'6" basket would give you even more of what you dislike.

                                                            To lessen the effect of 3s, make the line 30'. To get less dunking, let the players hack each other and only call fouls on Kevin McHale clotheslines.
                                                            Hmm, I'm looking to see if can agree with what you speculate with rim adjustments and other etc.?
                                                            Since I luv sports debating, "I'll Be Back."
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                                                            • ABEHONEST
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 06-27-09
                                                              • 9470

                                                              #31
                                                              Okay, TOMMYG, I still see where we need that 3 adjusted down to 2-1/2. This would work to level the scoring plane, and also, create much more dramatic basketball finishes. That is guaranteed.
                                                              So, I suppose this frightens the conservative rule-makers too death? It should, because they have let our most crowd-loving sport go stale for what, 25/30 years?

                                                              Now back to that rim, but only, if we move that 3 to 2-1/2? So, Tommyg says the dunks would stay the same and I see that not being true? Not even close.
                                                              I am talking college ball right now. The NBA is another difficult story to change, and it needs plenty of fixings, too.

                                                              College basketball, what basketball fanatic doesn't love this sport over all others?
                                                              My idea of a revolutionary fix [ yes, evolution is on the move every second of our lives ], would be to get this game back to more of a skilled shooters and assist game, and to do that, we must water down those high flying dunks and the domination of 7-foot giants, haunting those bitty rim heights. 10 Feet!

                                                              TommyG say raising the rim, right, will have those giants dominating even further? Right?
                                                              Nope, I don't think so, not if we raise those baskets up 3 inches.
                                                              It will take a lot more finesse to slam that sucker in, and add, cordination too. Those outside lobs will have to be throw at higher pitch, too. Creating, many time, error after error.
                                                              And surely, those old favorites, say, those sky-high-jumping forwards and guards, those misses on spectacular flasky dunks will drop--I need a mathematician--guessing, by
                                                              25 to 30%?
                                                              And those "look at wut I did," ridiculous antics, afterwards, will also be eliminated by that same percentage.
                                                              That would be a white man's dream.

                                                              And with those dunk changes, you would likely see coaches, saying, "hey, you," stop the self-centered dunking by 50%. I don't want to lose half of my best athletes with injuries. Just like 1 a day vitamins, both will keep you healther.
                                                              Okay, okay, what is needed precisely, is unknown? But we need changes so why not do some testing with several different methods or at least try to catch up with evolution, and we definitely need that at 100%.

                                                              * How many great scientist, mathematicians, inventors, were thought to be out of their minds at an early part of their imaginary developments, and experimental stages, then soon after, or maybe even 100 years later, they were seen as iconic masterminds and geniuses?

                                                              And yeah, as usual, I like my proposed changes, especially with that three-shot. And it would go especially well with that rim adjustment. Test it first and then complain later, if you must?

                                                              Send my proposal to, The Rulers of America's greatest sport invention, basketball.
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                                                              • shadymcgrady
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 02-27-12
                                                                • 10036

                                                                #32
                                                                They could just make the courts bigger, some guys can't shoot corner or baseline threes unless they are on their toes bc they'd be out of bounds flat footed. The current size of an nba regulated basketball court is stuffy at best given the size of today's majority players in the league.

                                                                They could also bring back hard fouls in the paint to discourage wreckless abandon at attacking the rim like the good old chuck Daly days with the bad boy pistons. No more bullsht James harden drawing fouls if a player goes to the paint, they should tread with caution.
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                                                                • TommieGunshot
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 03-27-12
                                                                  • 1607

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by ABEHONEST
                                                                  So, Tommyg says the dunks would stay the same and I see that not being true? Not even close.
                                                                  I did not say that. I said they would become more valuable.

                                                                  Right now, the difference in shooting percentage between a dunk and an 8 to 16' jump shot is about 48% from the most recent data on nbasavant (41% to 89%) (if we look at all years and not only the most recent one, the difference is 51%, 40% to 91%). That is why it is a shot a team always wants to take if they can. If the rims were raised, chance of making any shot -- dunk, layup, jumper, 3 -- would decrease. That should be pretty obvious. The only question is if the chance of making a dunk attempt would go down by more than those other shots. If those 8 to 16' jump shots go from 41% shots to 32%, while dunks go from 89% to 84%, then it is clear the value of dunks went up.

                                                                  Now if a three-point shot becomes a 2.5, it would be only 25% more valuable, instead of 50% more valuable -- it's premium is effectively cut in half. And with a higher rim making it even harder, teams will not be looking for it nearly as much as they do now. Since they aren't looking to shoot a 3, which shot are they going to look for every time down the court? Will it be the mid-range shot with a 30 to 40% chance, or the one with an 80 to 90% chance?
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                                                                  • ABEHONEST
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 06-27-09
                                                                    • 9470

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by TommieGunshot
                                                                    I did not say that. I said they would become more valuable.

                                                                    Right now, the difference in shooting percentage between a dunk and an 8 to 16' jump shot is about 48% from the most recent data on nbasavant (41% to 89%) (if we look at all years and not only the most recent one, the difference is 51%, 40% to 91%). That is why it is a shot a team always wants to take if they can. If the rims were raised, chance of making any shot -- dunk, layup, jumper, 3 -- would decrease. That should be pretty obvious. The only question is if the chance of making a dunk attempt would go down by more than those other shots. If those 8 to 16' jump shots go from 41% shots to 32%, while dunks go from 89% to 84%, then it is clear the value of dunks went up.

                                                                    Now if a three-point shot becomes a 2.5, it would be only 25% more valuable, instead of 50% more valuable -- it's premium is effectively cut in half. And with a higher rim making it even harder, teams will not be looking for it nearly as much as they do now. Since they aren't looking to shoot a 3, which shot are they going to look for every time down the court? Will it be the mid-range shot with a 30 to 40% chance, or the one with an 80 to 90% chance?
                                                                    Okay, Gun, I see what you say about dunking.
                                                                    You have posted some amazing mathematical stats and it seems you believe them to be fairy close to being precise?
                                                                    I will look these over and get back with you, but not with another hour long rebuttal.
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                                                                    • bodyman
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 04-28-10
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      A league owned by drunk carnies? Can you imagine going into an arena full of people with small hands smelling like cabbage?

                                                                      Originally posted by seaborneq
                                                                      Then nothing but dirty, drunk carnies would own the league. They can’t even dribble
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