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  • lakerboy
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    • 04-02-09
    • 94379

    #1
    Have these current generation coaches gone brain dead?
    What is wrong with these people? Why not just Kick the fg?
  • jjgold
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    • 07-20-05
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    #2
    Yep
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    • Coolcanuck79
      SBR MVP
      • 12-07-11
      • 3189

      #3
      Makes no sense at all. Glad I had TEN.
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      • OVAKUL
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        • 09-16-17
        • 1541

        #4
        Live under 68.5
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        • Kermit
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          • 09-27-10
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          #5
          You kick the field goal. Even if you pick up the 1st down, you have to call a time-out. Then you have a couple shots into the end zone and if that doesn't work, you kick the field goal anyways.
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          • MiDNiTe
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            • 11-11-13
            • 7684

            #6
            Even if they converted it would still be super tough to get TD with hardly any time left
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            • lakerboy
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              • 04-02-09
              • 94379

              #7
              Buffalo wanted to play the AFC championship game in Baltimore. They did not want to be at home in January.
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              • jtoler
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                • 12-17-13
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                #8
                it’s ok to say mcdermott most would have kicked
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                • Kermit
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                  • 09-27-10
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by MiDNiTe
                  Even if they converted it would still be super tough to get TD with hardly any time left
                  Exactly
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                  • gshock1
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                    • 12-04-09
                    • 5366

                    #10
                    The bills got the call from draftkings and played nice. Draftkings couldn't afford another big public day.
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                    • ThaTopMoron
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                      • 04-30-10
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by lakerboy
                      What is wrong with these people? Why not just Kick the fg?
                      no... do a proper QB sneak and don't have your QB standing around like he's going to run a 4th and 1 play in shotgun

                      stupid

                      tom brady should show allen how it's done
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                      • ThaTopMoron
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                        • 04-30-10
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by MiDNiTe
                        Even if they converted it would still be super tough to get TD with hardly any time left
                        they would've had around 18 seconds to try 3 pass plays
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                        • MinnesotaFats
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                          • 12-18-10
                          • 14758

                          #13
                          Week 6, on the road...

                          Go for the win

                          They're winning their division

                          However...I'm not an Allen fan and Buffalo runs him too much he is going to get hurt.

                          Now, if it's week 14 or so...if they're at home, etc play for OT

                          Week 6 on the road u go for the win
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                          • dhristov211
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                            • 12-18-15
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                            #14
                            That was unreal
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                            • lakerboy
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                              • 04-02-09
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                              Week 6, on the road...

                              Go for the win

                              They're winning their division

                              However...I'm not an Allen fan and Buffalo runs him too much he is going to get hurt.

                              Now, if it's week 14 or so...if they're at home, etc play for OT

                              Week 6 on the road u go for the win
                              You kick the fg. Home field advantage for the entire playoffs is huge especially in buffalo in late January. I know you hate kickers though.
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                              • Eddy Munny
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                                • 08-13-13
                                • 15768

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Kermit
                                You kick the field goal. Even if you pick up the 1st down, you have to call a time-out. Then you have a couple shots into the end zone and if that doesn't work, you kick the field goal anyways.
                                If they pick up the 1st, a quick spike would've been easy enough because everyone is already at the line of scrimmage... Then you have time for a couple of slants/fades or even a run call with the timeout still in your pocket.

                                I dunno, it was only half a yard, I think it was a justifiable call. If they lose in overtime you have everyone saying McDermott had a chance to end it in regulation and was playing "not to lose" or lacks a "killer instinct."
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                                • temple2010
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                                  • 03-16-10
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                                  #17
                                  They had 2 timeouts- why not try and draw them offsides once- then make a decision??
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                                  • mem5757
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                                    • 02-17-21
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                                    #18
                                    QB is 6'5" 240 and it was less than a yard, closer to 18 inches. it was the right call.
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                                    • bigtymer56
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                                      • 07-31-12
                                      • 4742

                                      #19
                                      Loved the call...Dlineman just made a play and beat them to the spot. Oh well.
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                                      • Eddy Munny
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                                        • 08-13-13
                                        • 15768

                                        #20
                                        It's easy to 2nd guess a decision once you have the result of said decision.

                                        Championships aren't won by playing it safe.
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                                        • Kermit
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                                          • 09-27-10
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                                          If they pick up the 1st, a quick spike would've been easy enough because everyone is already at the line of scrimmage... Then you have time for a couple of slants/fades or even a run call with the timeout still in your pocket.

                                          I dunno, it was only half a yard, I think it was a justifiable call. If they lose in overtime you have everyone saying Vrabel had a chance to end it in regulation and was playing "not to lose" or lacks a "killer instinct."
                                          I don't know. Buffalo had no problem going right down the field on them. I would have played for OT.

                                          I had the over and alt overs, so I am not complaining. I think their best option to win was kicking the FG and going to OT. All they had to do was stop Henry, IF the Titans won the toss.
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                                          • ThaTopMoron
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                                            • 04-30-10
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by temple2010
                                            They had 2 timeouts- why not try and draw them offsides once- then make a decision??
                                            they had 1 timeout left and Eddy you can't try to spike it after a QB sneak because everyone will be on top of Allen... soon as they say first down you call timeout and try a couple throws and if you fail you kick the FG
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                                            • jtoler
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                                              • 12-17-13
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by mem5757
                                              QB is 6'5" 240 and it was less than a yard, closer to 18 inches. it was the right call.
                                              if it was the right call they would have gotten the 1st down
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                                              • bigtymer56
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                                                • 07-31-12
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Kermit
                                                I don't know. Buffalo had no problem going right down the field on them. I would have played for OT.

                                                I had the over and alt overs, so I am not complaining. I think their best option to win was kicking the FG and going to OT. All they had to do was stop Henry.
                                                The Titans scored 34 points tonight...wasnt like the Bills were guaranteed to stop them OT.
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                                                • vitterd
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                                                  • 09-14-17
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                                                  #25
                                                  That’s an easy call to go for it. If you kick a fg, you risk never seeing the ball again. You gotta believe you can get an inch there and then win it. I would have been shocked if he kicked it.
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                                                  • Kermit
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                                                    • 09-27-10
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                                                    #26
                                                    If Tom Brady was still playing for the Patriots, Buffalo would have kicked the Field Goal.
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                                                    • Eddy Munny
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                                                      • 08-13-13
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by ThaTopMoron
                                                      they had 1 timeout left and Eddy you can't try to spike it after a QB sneak because everyone will be on top of Allen... soon as they say first down you call timeout and try a couple throws and if you fail you kick the FG
                                                      It depends... I know the defenders will try to stall the spike and in that case you burn the timeout if you have to. It's kind of a judgement call at that point. But regardless, you have the slants/fades at your disposal or even a quarterback rollout to give him the option to run or pass.
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                                                      • Kermit
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                                                        • 09-27-10
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by bigtymer56
                                                        The Titans scored 34 points tonight...wasnt like the Bills were guaranteed to stop them OT.
                                                        If Buffalo gets the ball to start OT, they could have also ended it there.

                                                        I guess that it was a risk no matter how you look at it.
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                                                        • GunShard
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                                                          • 03-05-10
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                                                          #29
                                                          4th and stupid.
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                                                          • mem5757
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                                                            • 02-17-21
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by jtoler
                                                            if it was the right call they would have gotten the 1st down
                                                            no that's not how %s work. you can make a +ev bet and still lose.
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                                                            • jtoler
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                                                              • 12-17-13
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by vitterd
                                                              That’s an easy call to go for it. If you kick a fg, you risk never seeing the ball again. You gotta believe you can get an inch there and then win it. I would have been shocked if he kicked it.
                                                              but it f u don’t get it u have zero chance to win. I never think qb sneaks are automatic especially when everyone is expecting it
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                                                              • ThaTopMoron
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                                                                • 04-30-10
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                                                                #32
                                                                the lineman got a jump on the snap because bills had their QB standing around in SHOTGUN then he quickly came down under center... he knew the quick snap was coming

                                                                stupid

                                                                get under center and run a proper QB sneak
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                                                                • Eddy Munny
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                                                                  • 08-13-13
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Kermit
                                                                  I don't know. Buffalo had no problem going right down the field on them. I would have played for OT.
                                                                  Why let a coin flip potentially determine your fate though? There's a chance Allen doesn't even see the field in overtime.

                                                                  Just pick up 1/2 a yard and you're in the driver's seat to end it.
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                                                                  • ArunSh
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                                                                    • 09-24-07
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    I don't think it was a bad call either, really feels frankly like because it went badly people are quick to criticize - hindsight is 20/20!

                                                                    I mean let's be real if they had made it and won the game because of that would people have been praising him for making that call? Or would they have said "well it's obvious you go for it there, it's only half a yard". Again, very easy to judge after the fact.

                                                                    Whenever there is a call to be made for which there are two options both of which are somewhat reasonable (I certainly think this one qualifies) if the decision you make ends up badly, every armchair coach is going to be calling for your head after the fact, and that just isn't reasonable.

                                                                    Again, if they had kicked it and lost in OT, as someone said above, everyone would then be criticizing him for not going for it when their chances of winning in regulation were probably around 85% should they get the first down there.
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                                                                    • bigtymer56
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                                                                      • 07-31-12
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                                                                      #35
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