Is this a dirty hit or is it just hockey?

[kostasblues]

That was awesome.

[stevenash]

7:30pm face off tonight.
Perfect.

This is a Stanley Cup game I will definitely tune into to.

[pavyracer]

Can they retaliate on this guy tonight? Like meeting him in the parking lot before the game and beating the crap out of him.

[cankid]

No their best retaliation will be to beat them twice on their home ice and take their will away. If he returns later if the series goes far he will have to grow eyes in all directions

[JIBBBY]

Love tap. Hockey a man sport.

[Jayvegas420]

Guaranteed nobody in this thread has played hockey at the level I played ....absolutely nothing wrong with that hit, what was he supposed to do?
come to a complete stop and let the goal score?
You turn around towards centre ice, you should know what’s coming.

Anybody who thinks Scheiffle should have pulled up on that play didn’t play a game past rec. league.

Hockey isn’t like other sports, not for soft snowflakes.

.....the virtual absence of the enforcer is IMO the reason stuff like this happens more frequently

[BarkingToad]

Love tap. Hockey a man sport.

Nonsense, he didn’t play the puck at all, and actually the puck was in the net when hit was made.

[BarkingToad]

Guaranteed nobody in this thread has played hockey at the level I played ....absolutely nothing wrong with that hit, what was he supposed to do?
come to a complete stop and let the goal score?
You turn around towards centre ice, you should know what’s coming.

Anybody who thinks Scheiffle should have pulled up on that play didn’t play a game past rec. league.

Hockey isn’t like other sports, not for soft snowflakes.

.....the virtual absence of the enforcer is IMO the reason stuff like this happens more frequently

He never made a play on the puck

[JIBBBY]

Nonsense, he didn’t play the puck at all, and actually the puck was in the net when hit was made.

Bang bang play. The hit was coming regardless. There was no pulling up. No worse then a solid cross checking or boarding call at best.

Gotta protect yourself in this sport and see a hit like that coming.

[Jayvegas420]

[QUOTE=JIBBBY;30314560]Bang bang play. The hit was coming regardless. There was no pulling up. No worse then a solid cross checking or boarding call at best.

Gotta protect yourself in this sport and see a hit like that coming.

Jibs gets it

[Jayvegas420]

He never made a play on the puck

There’s a reasons it’s called a body check....you’re aren’t hitting the puck

[Chi_archie]

any next gen stats on how fast he was moving?

that's as much ice i'll you ever see for a guy to ramp up into a hit

[stevenash]

There’s a reasons it’s called a body check....you’re aren’t hitting the puck

That’s what I call a premeditated hit.

[dlowilly]

Never played a second of ice hockey in my life

But by reading the comments I thought it was a meaningless empty netter to go up 3 goals with 20 seconds left or something

Then I looked at the video. The game was not decided and he had to try to stop that goal increasing the lead to 2 with a minute left in the playoffs IMO.

[pavyracer]

Body checking

A player drives the shoulder, upper arm and hip and elbow, equally into the opponent to separate them from the puck, using the body to knock an opponent against the boards or to the ice. This is often referred to as simply checking or hitting and is only permitted against an opponent with possession of the puck. Body checking can be penalized when performed recklessly. It is considered an "illegal hit" in IIHF women's hockey and is punishable by a minor penalty, major penalty and automatic game misconduct, or match penalty.^[1]

[Jayvegas420]

any next gen stats on how fast he was moving?

that's as much ice i'll you ever see for a guy to ramp up into a hit

..... he was trying to save a crucial goal.
Its not soccer Arch.

[Jayvegas420]

*double post

[mngambler]

Guaranteed nobody in this thread has played hockey at the level I played ....absolutely nothing wrong with that hit, what was he supposed to do?
come to a complete stop and let the goal score?
You turn around towards centre ice, you should know what’s coming.

Anybody who thinks Scheiffle should have pulled up on that play didn’t play a game past rec. league.

Hockey isn’t like other sports, not for soft snowflakes.

.....the virtual absence of the enforcer is IMO the reason stuff like this happens more frequently

High School State Hockey Champion checking in here lol I'm sure you made it farther than that but yes you are correct, my immediate reaction to the video was "gotta keep that head up and on a swivel bud" this isn't pee wee hockey here

[TheMoneyShot]

No use even arguing this hit. Regular season game.... and he walks away without a stretcher... no suspension called in my opinion.

But... because it's a playoff game... high TV exposure... the world watching.... and the guy is laying dead on the ice.... yeah... we have to give the other guy a 4 game suspension. Just absolute silly sh#$. And this is why I don't care to watch this fukking league anymore. Haven't really tuned in for about 3 years. I was a huge hockey fan for 20+ years....

You might as well call every slash on the hands... every slash on the skate... it happens all the fukking time. Call everything. This is why the league in my opinion is so inconsistent. The way the NHL has tried to regulate these actions is ridiculous. You don't know what's right or what's wrong.

1. He could have given it one more extra full stride when he hit him. He didn't do it.
2. Could have launched and went up in the air. He didn't do it.
3. Could have went for the head area. Well... offensive skater is sort of crouching... and the defensive player looks taller? I still don't believe he was head hunting.
4. It was a bang bang play to prevent the guy from scoring.
5. As an offensive skater you have got to keep your head up... and let's face it... he thought he had more time than he did. It was a greedy play to try and score... and he paid the price.

If that skater gets up from the hit... there's no suspension.

The entire event could have been avoided by many other decisions by both players. Miscalculation by the offensive skater thinking he had more time than he did. And... I believe he wanted to be "greedy" and score on his own. Take it behind the net... eat up clock... let him dig the puck away from you at the boards... so many ways to prevent this. But to say the defensive player has no right to hit him... and just allow him to score... you guys are insane.

[KVB]

The NHL made their ruling suspending Scheifele 4 games that will continue into the regular season if the series ends before the suspension and Winnipeg is out.

For all you hockey experts that played whatever level you did.

Here's what the NHL Department of Player Safety said of the hit, which they considered a charge...

"This is a player who has traveled a considerable distance, is moving with exceptional speed and is fully aware of his momentum, who chooses to charge into a vulnerable opponent with a high, predatory hit that causes an injury."

Nasher was closest to anyone in this thread...

That’s what I call a premeditated hit.

[mngambler]

The NHL made their ruling suspending Scheifele 4 games that will continue into the regular season if the series ends before the suspension and Winnipeg is out.

For all you hockey experts that played whatever level you did.

Here's what the NHL Department of Player Safety said of the hit, which they considered a charge...



Nasher was closest to anyone in this thread...

of course that is their response, the world is soft and full of puzzies and participation trophies, in the 80's/90's that type of hit happened almost every single game

[KVB]

Can they retaliate on this guy tonight? Like meeting him in the parking lot before the game and beating the crap out of him.

They said this if he wasn't going to be suspended...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/2021/06/03/mark-scheifele-suspende-huge-hit-jake-evans-nhl-playoffs/7527715002/

...Evans’ teammates, some of whom were quick to call it “a dirty hit” and “disgusting,” anticipated the level of discipline from the NHL.

“The league is going to take care of it,” Canadiens defenseman Joel Edmundson said. "If (Scheifele) gets back in the series, we’re going to make his life miserable."...

The players themselves expected puishment.

At least teammates, I wonder about others.

[KVB]

of course that is their response, the world is soft and full of puzzies and participation trophies, in the 80's/90's that type of hit happened almost every single game

The players fully expected punishment, that's the players themselves, albeit teammates, see the above quote.

Would like to see what other NHL players thought of it.

Also, actually, the Departement of Player Safety has been getting shit for beign too soft...

...The Department of Player Safety came under fire near the end of the regular season for its handling of actions by the Washington Capitals’ Tom Wilson, a forward with a reputation for controversial hits. He received the maximum fine but no suspension for roughing the New York Rangers' Pavel Buchnevich, which touched off a brawl that saw Wilson slam Rangers star Artemi Panarin to the ground without a helmet...

Maybe their trying to make up for it with a 4 game suspension.

[mngambler]

The players fully expected punishment, that's the players themselves, albeit teammates, see the above quote.

Would like to see what other NHL players thought of it.

Also, actually, the Departement of Player Safety has been getting shit for beign too soft...



Maybe their trying to make up for it with a 4 game suspension.

again it's a MUCH different era for the game, I was playing hockey when these current players were sh*tting in their pullups still sucking on mommas tit so I wouldn't expect them to know anything different, either way the game has evolved and although as an old school guy I don't see the problem with the hit I almost expected him to be suspended as well

[TheMoneyShot]

The NHL made their ruling suspending Scheifele 4 games that will continue into the regular season if the series ends before the suspension and Winnipeg is out.

For all you hockey experts that played whatever level you did.

Here's what the NHL Department of Player Safety said of the hit, which they considered a charge...



Nasher was closest to anyone in this thread...

Predatory hit? lol Every time a player is near the boards... and you lean into him... it's predatory. How the fukk isn't it? You are "seeking" him out. The wording is so horrible by the NHL.

I have an idea.... we'll call checking... a "love tap" now. lol I just gave him a love tap into the boards lol

[KVB]

Predatory hit? lol Every time a player is near the boards... and you lean into him... it's predatory. How the fukk isn't it? You are "seeking" him out. The wording is so horrible by the NHL.

I have an idea.... we'll call checking... a "love tap" now. lol I just gave him a love tap into the boards lol

[Chi_archie]

so how fast do we think he was going?

[KVB]

I don’t know, it was a crazy hit at full speed, but they make it sound like he was just standing there and the guy came all the way across the ice.

It was much closer than that.

[JIBBBY]

Clean hit, hockey getting soft with the suspension.. Shake it off and get back in there as a hockey player.

[manny24]

Clean hit, hockey getting soft with the suspension.. Shake it off and get back in there as a hockey player.

Jibby he was knocked out cold in mid-air

kind of hard to shake it off, skin

[MickeyMan]

They said this if he wasn't going to be suspended...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/2021/06/03/mark-scheifele-suspende-huge-hit-jake-evans-nhl-playoffs/7527715002/

The players themselves expected puishment.

At least teammates, I wonder about others.

Of course they said that. That’s a massive loss for the jets. This is quite common in the playoffs on anything questionable the opposing team will call for a suspension.

[MickeyMan]

KVB so far the consensus I’ve seen is retired players think good clean hit, maybe one game suspension. And the younger the players get the more dirty they think it is. The game has changed and for the worse imo.

[stevenash]

IMO that was not a bang-bang play.
It was premeditated.

Mind you I don’t care either way, MTL or WNP, I have no dog in this fight.
(I live in Bruins country we got our hands full with NYI)

[JIBBBY]

Jibby he was knocked out cold in mid-air

kind of hard to shake it off, skin

Rub some dirt on it and get back out there and play damn it!! .

[Chi_archie]

so like 20 mph's?