A word from Cascade

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  • pokerking
    SBR High Roller
    • 02-08-07
    • 109

    #141
    I'm a regular poster on the majorwager and the therx.
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    • knicknut
      SBR High Roller
      • 03-18-06
      • 241

      #142
      Requested a withdrawal 8 days ago on the phone (before the new message on their website). My account has still not been debited. I also requested a withdrawal 10 days before that online, but I've written that one off.
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      • pokerking
        SBR High Roller
        • 02-08-07
        • 109

        #143
        Originally posted by knicknut
        Requested a withdrawal 8 days ago on the phone (before the new message on their website). My account has still not been debited. I also requested a withdrawal 10 days before that online, but I've written that one off.
        Get ready for all the excuses from Lenny. He confirmed several times that he sent my friend a wire and he just confiscated the funds. I got nothing but a bunch of lies from him.
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        • Halifax
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 08-10-05
          • 553

          #144
          Originally posted by pokerking
          Get ready for all the excuses from Lenny. He confirmed several times that he sent my friend a wire and he just confiscated the funds. I got nothing but a bunch of lies from him.

          So what exactly is the situation here ?

          Is Lenny saying that he sent (or is trying to send) the funds to you, but giving you a bunch of excuses about why you haven't received the money yet ? Or is he out and out telling you that he's not going to pay you ?

          If it's the latter, what is his reasoning for not wanting to pay you ?
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          • pokerking
            SBR High Roller
            • 02-08-07
            • 109

            #145
            He's out and out not paying me. He confirmed a few months ago that he sent a friend of mine about $29,000 several times. It turns out that he never sent it and he just took those funds too.
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            • Santo
              SBR MVP
              • 09-08-05
              • 2957

              #146
              And the reasoning?
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              • pokerking
                SBR High Roller
                • 02-08-07
                • 109

                #147
                Originally posted by Santo
                And the reasoning?

                There wasn't any reasoning for Lenny to lie about sending my friend his balance and confiscating his funds. Lenny tried to justify himself when the shrink agreed to mediate it but he backed out when he didn't like how it was going.
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                • Korchnoi
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 10-20-06
                  • 406

                  #148
                  Originally posted by pokerking
                  There wasn't any reasoning for Lenny to lie about sending my friend his balance and confiscating his funds. Lenny tried to justify himself when the shrink agreed to mediate it but he backed out when he didn't like how it was going.
                  Why are you so evasive? Make your next post at least 8 sentences long so we can take you seriously. Explain your situation.
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                  • Halifax
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 08-10-05
                    • 553

                    #149
                    Originally posted by pokerking
                    There wasn't any reasoning for Lenny to lie about sending my friend his balance and confiscating his funds. Lenny tried to justify himself when the shrink agreed to mediate it but he backed out when he didn't like how it was going.
                    Forgetting about your friend for a minute, what's the reason that he doesn't want to pay you ?

                    At first glance, I would assume it's because you and your friend were double-popping a lot of their lines ... but since Cascade, in all probability, had you guys on the 30-second confirmation delay, they would have had the ability to decline any and all bets that you put in ... so it must be another reason ?
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                    • Newguyintown
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 12-24-05
                      • 348

                      #150
                      Why are you all even taking this pokerking seriously.

                      He clearly is not going to give details, he's had 10 chances to and for some reason does not want to. Is what he's saying true or false? There's never going to be any way to tell because he won't say.


                      NG
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                      • pokerking
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 02-08-07
                        • 109

                        #151
                        I've already said that he confiscated the funds. What else am I supposed to say? Lenny agreed to discuss any issues he had in the mediation with the shrink and he backed out of it. That's an admission of guilt on his part to back out of the mediation process.
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                        • Korchnoi
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 10-20-06
                          • 406

                          #152
                          Originally posted by pokerking
                          I've already said that he confiscated the funds. What else am I supposed to say? Lenny agreed to discuss any issues he had in the mediation with the shrink and he backed out of it. That's an admission of guilt on his part to back out of the mediation process.
                          jj?
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                          • pags11
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 08-18-05
                            • 12264

                            #153
                            was talking with razz yesterday and he told me they are putting up overnight lines...they're currently number 7 on my list of the only seven books I'd play with at this point (with CRIS, matchbook, betjamaica, WSEX, bodog and legendz being the other 6)...gonna see how the dust settles with them before deciding whether or not to post up with them this fall...
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                            • acw
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 08-29-05
                              • 576

                              #154
                              Cascade is simply broke! Why do some still not get it?
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                              • JELLYBEAN
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 01-14-07
                                • 303

                                #155
                                Guys, I believe pokerking is on the up and up. I would still like to understand Lenny's reasoning for confiscating the funds. If anyone is old school it's him. You book a bet..you pay the bet...end of story. Alot of rumours swirling about cascade...got to be some truth to some of it. Lenny has alot of friends..but now it seems he has burnt alot of bridges also. I'd like to see this have a happy ending..but i think it's going to end in another disaster. It's a real shame.
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                                • Yoshi
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 08-29-06
                                  • 548

                                  #156
                                  Originally posted by acw
                                  Cascade is simply broke! Why do some still not get it?
                                  Sure, thats why they sold to Horizon i guess.
                                  The question now is how will all this affect the whole group?
                                  I really liked Atlas, specially for bases.
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                                  • JELLYBEAN
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 01-14-07
                                    • 303

                                    #157
                                    There in lies the issue. They didnt sell out to anyone. They just use the facilities to write the business. Those of you who dont know alot of what goes on offshore should not post half truths. It only hurts others who really need to know what is going on.
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                                    • TheMoneyShot
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 02-14-07
                                      • 28690

                                      #158
                                      I'm not here to start any drama or really change the theme of this thread. But BetCascade posted a new paragraph on their website for US Customers:

                                      Current payment methods have been limited due to external pressures exherted by the US government. This will unfortunately create an increased payment time frame. At the current time, payments will be made in 15 to 25 day time frames.

                                      I was ready to deposit funds in this book last Friday. I'm not kidding. I sent some funds to Matchbook.com instead... but I'm getting my bankroll ready for March Madness. I think a time frame of 15 to 25 days is outrageous. There's no excuse for this garbage by any book.
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                                      • TheMoneyShot
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 02-14-07
                                        • 28690

                                        #159
                                        Furthermore, SportsBookReview.com should reevaluate the grade of this sportsbook because It's not a "B" style book anymore. We're looking more like a C rating.
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                                        • pokerking
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 02-08-07
                                          • 109

                                          #160
                                          Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                          Furthermore, SportsBookReview.com should reevaluate the grade of this sportsbook because It's not a "B" style book anymore. We're looking more like a C rating.
                                          C rating is way too high for a book that openly advertises that you need to be prepared to wait a month to get a payout and it also stiffs selected players.
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                                          • aceking
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-07-05
                                            • 4782

                                            #161
                                            Anyone got paid at Cascade recently ?

                                            My non-US Neteller withdrawal was not settled after 3 weeks ,
                                            and the emails are unanswered.

                                            Any mods can kindly assist ? thanks.
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                                            • pokerking
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 02-08-07
                                              • 109

                                              #162
                                              Originally posted by aceking
                                              Anyone got paid at Cascade recently ?

                                              My non-US Neteller withdrawal was not settled after 3 weeks ,
                                              and the emails are unanswered.

                                              Any mods can kindly assist ? thanks.
                                              You should let Lenny know that you're posting on the forums. There's a good chance he'll pay you if you report it on the forums. He'll slowpay and stiff the people who don't post or have connections.
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                                              • Bill Dozer
                                                www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                                • 07-12-05
                                                • 10894

                                                #163
                                                AceKing,
                                                Cascade said they sent you ** two weeks ago and are going to have it canceled and resend NT. You don't want to pick up the **?
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                                                • pokerking
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 02-08-07
                                                  • 109

                                                  #164
                                                  Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                                                  AceKing,
                                                  Cascade said they sent you ** two weeks ago and are going to have it canceled and resend NT. You don't want to pick up the **?
                                                  Sounds like another fictitious payment claimed by Cascade. Lenny told me he sent my friend's payments several times. It was all a big lie.
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                                                  • Newguyintown
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 12-24-05
                                                    • 348

                                                    #165
                                                    Getting Paid by Cascade....Slowly but Surely

                                                    Have a pretty big balance.....getting paid VERY SLOWLY but SURELY.


                                                    NG
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                                                    • dog111
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 02-04-07
                                                      • 7

                                                      #166
                                                      slow pay

                                                      i requested my payout from cascade the day after the Super Bowl because they closed to US customers. My account still shows a balance and customer service tells me to have patience. It's been almonst 3 weeks!!
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                                                      • BigDog
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 12-09-05
                                                        • 452

                                                        #167
                                                        I said it early in this thread and I'll say it again...."DO NOT TRUST LENNY!"
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                                                        • Santo
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 09-08-05
                                                          • 2957

                                                          #168
                                                          dogs: Why do you keep saying they closed to US Customers? They didn't.
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                                                          • Bill Dozer
                                                            www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                                            • 07-12-05
                                                            • 10894

                                                            #169
                                                            Originally posted by pokerking
                                                            Sounds like another fictitious payment claimed by Cascade. Lenny told me he sent my friend's payments several times. It was all a big lie.
                                                            Aceking supposedly has a control number but did not request **. Nothing wrong with not being able or want a certain method but this would be relevant to the discussion.
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                                                            • Bill Dozer
                                                              www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                                              • 07-12-05
                                                              • 10894

                                                              #170
                                                              Originally posted by dog111
                                                              i requested my payout from cascade the day after the Super Bowl because they closed to US customers. My account still shows a balance and customer service tells me to have patience. It's been almonst 3 weeks!!
                                                              Dog,

                                                              Have you asked about a book-to-book transfer?
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                                                              • dog111
                                                                SBR Rookie
                                                                • 02-04-07
                                                                • 7

                                                                #171
                                                                bill

                                                                the books i have looked at all have a pretty high limit for book to book tranfers or they cost quite a bit. I was told by customer service that they were leaving the US market and ever since then when i log on it says that wagering is suspended and to contact customer service.
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                                                                • Bill Dozer
                                                                  www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                                                  • 07-12-05
                                                                  • 10894

                                                                  #172
                                                                  dog111,

                                                                  Send me an email with your acct. ID and balance and let's see if we can get you some straight answers.
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                                                                  • sunnyblue88
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 08-11-06
                                                                    • 117

                                                                    #173
                                                                    Did anybody get paid by fedex check recently?

                                                                    Had a cashout request on Jan 30th, it still has not been sent out yet. called last week,was told to check back next Monday. Almost a month now
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                                                                    • pokerking
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 02-08-07
                                                                      • 109

                                                                      #174
                                                                      Originally posted by BigDog
                                                                      I said it early in this thread and I'll say it again...."DO NOT TRUST LENNY!"
                                                                      Well said Bigdog. Lenny is a compulsive lier.
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                                                                      • dog111
                                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                                        • 02-04-07
                                                                        • 7

                                                                        #175
                                                                        Bill-

                                                                        I hope you received my message with my ID and my minimal balance. Thanks in advance for your assistance.
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