Be it a deep down flaw or overt I say over 50% want to lose or actually enjoy losing.
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Compulsive gamblers like to lose, I sometimes like to lose as it feels better. If we won all the time no one would gamble.Comment -
This is the reason a well financed Book is a goldmine not to mention the vig the other 50% has to overcome.Comment -
No.
There is a scene in the movie, Two For The Money, where the Al Pacino character tries out that particular bit of psycho-babble - and since then I see it popping up on posting forums once in awhile - but it doesn't hold any water.
It's almost like a conspiracy theory. It's a contrived over-analysis designed to reach a sensational conclusion. It sounds psychologically interesting and it gives people something to talk about.
The truth is much more mundane.
People in our society want more money not less. Things are just as they appear - gamblers want to win, not lose.
I certainly do.Comment -
Wow Sam, people say stuff in this forum that makes me want to post (even though I have almost nothing of significance to contibute) and yours was one of these posts. OMG so true. Maybe because we want to predict the future correctly, and then by accident when we do this a few times in a row we become kind of uneasy about our new found powers so we desire to go back to our more simplistic yet comfortable human form of life, I don't know. Such a good point/question to ponder though.
Another interesting thing to ponder is how one can analyze a game like NO/Chi for many hours and forget to account for 4 turnovers by the Saints while doing their 'capping. Is there anyone out there who can help me with this flaw I have of not factoring in 4 turnovers??? Heck I wouldn't have minded laying Chicago -24 if I knew that was going to happen!!!Comment -
Mudcat, what else do you call it when a person KNOWS for a FACT that steaming and/or doubling-up is a losing prop. but will do it in the 'heat' of a NFL day?Comment -
Originally posted by Sam Odom
They want action. They may know that their expectation is negative, but it's not like they have the option to make +EV bets and they decide to take the -EV ones.
It's like saying a fat guy who eats cake wants to be fat because he knows cake will make him fat and he eats it anyway.Comment -
Eating cake will make a fat person happy in many cases.Originally posted by Korchnoi
Maybe it's a chemical imbalance thang in the brain which causes 'compulsion' which leads to negative actions for a whole lot of people.Comment -
Same with gambling. Doesn't mean they _want_ to loose, just because they will.Originally posted by Sam OdomComment -
a lexical argument ?Comment -
I think it's substantive...u disagree?Originally posted by Sam OdomComment -
Let's just say the _end_ results are the same. The fat person gets fatter (like RPM) and the losers continue to lose (like JJ)Comment -
My take is that there is a huge difference between knowing you will lose in the long run (or are likely to lose in the long run) and betting anyway, and actually wanting to lose rather than win. And I think like Korchnoi that the difference is substantive. I would guess that most gamblers know they're making negative e.v. bets and/or making bets when they shouldn't, but it would surprise me quite a bit if a lot of gamblers actually WANT to lose - even if they think, as I've heard quoted on ESPN, that the next best thing to gambling and inning is gambling and losing. But I also know that I have a very different mindset than that, and don't know anyone who gambles and isn't an advantage gambler in some form.Comment -
If you enjoy losing money you are sick, simple as that.
Go get some help if you ever feel like it, cause it means the pressure of gambling is alrdy super large in your brain and losing is a relief coz the sweating stops for a while.Comment -
I like being down like $1500 and not having a fukkin dime to pay the book and then I have to rally to get even, I love the pressure and pick more winners when pressed.Comment -
Not going for that theory. That's just one step from blaming life on your parents.
Play to win. Or don't play at all.Comment -
Darker if you won every bet you would quit gambling believe meComment -
Yes, he'd probably buy an island, a plane and retire with enough money to not have to do it again.Comment -
I guess I better not win every bet then.
(That's funny Santo. I wrote that exact line, buying my private island in the Pacfic, but threw it out).Comment -
I hate losing. Period.
The one thing you don't want to get better at.Comment -
Darker if you won all the time it would become boring and zero risk and then it would not be gambling therefore you would not bet anymore.
Pal I know what I am talking about here.Comment -
If I would ever reach the point where I had the system beat with 100% certainty, I would milk it to the fullest. That wouldn't be boring at all.
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Experimenting is part of gambling. Can't expand your horizon without experimenting, so a large percentage of my losses falls in that category. In that sense I may open myself up to losing for the purpose of becoming better at this great art.Comment -
many Gamblers feel that god is out to get them and feel a sort of peverse satisfaction when they lose- and are proven right.Comment -
To some people, maybe many, anything is better than being bored out of their brains. Even extreme suffering.
I think a greater danger of sports betting is that it can impair your ability to make decisions in real life. When you're constantly making decisions about games, plus are on the rollercoaster ride of winning and losing, you can have nothing left for real life. Then even simple questions like sugar or milk in your coffee can draw a blank stare. "Sugar or milk?" "I dunno."
So many ways to lose perspective as a gambler. The most important thing may be to take breaks whenever that is needed to regain perspective. Because one thing is certain. With a f*cked up perspective you can't take the right decisions.Comment
