Well, the plan was working for him until that penalty.
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what is the % of scoring on 4th and goal from 8? 25-40%?
Multiply that by about .50 for the Chance of converting a 2 point conversion...
even if you just say they had a 50% chance of getting the TD from the 8.... the basically had a 25% chance to tie the game there.
what were the % chance of getting a 3 and out from Brady there?
I'd have to think less than 20% maybe even 10%
but maybe LaFleur thought different.
I get that No matter what, the defense still needed to come up big and stop Brady at the time end of the game. but I'd love to hear how informed that decision was, and what it was based on
the #'s may not have been too far in his disadvantage, but by making the call, if it failed he lost the backing of much of his team and all the fans pretty much foreverComment -
What did he say in his press conference?Comment -
teams today that does not have the guts to go for it on 4th downs do not winComment -
Thought it was a horrible move by Lafleur. It’s one thing if you’re playing a bad offense. It’s another thing when it’s Tom Brady and the Bucs who moved the ball pretty well for most of the game. You gotta take that chance there and go.Comment -
Yeah I'd not have gone that route myself, but i'm trying to figure out his thought process
well you had to shoot the bad guy twice, right? get a 4th and long with a short field and a 2 point conversion
and then the bad guy still had plenty of time to go 40-50 yards and win by a FG anyways.
So no matter what Green Bay defense had to come up big and stop the GOAT in order for the packers to win.
the only advantage I see with this approach is that you get the chance to win in regulation if your defense does stop him (they almost did)
otherwise you are going to OT and a huge part of your immediate future is decided by a coin flipComment -
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Add to the fact that even if they didn’t score a TD Tampa has the ball on the 8 yard lineComment -
yes archie, but then you put the onus on the Bucs offense to get into FG range and there was no guarantee that was going to happen with 2:00 minutes left...worst case scenario, the game goes into OT all tied up...the whole point is to extend the game and give your team the best chance to win...one possession game with only a couple of minutes left you go for the TD on the 4th down and two point conversion...you don't kick the meaningless FG...it made absolutely no sense and is indefensible...no and's, if's, but's, or maybe's about it.Comment -
Browns had a possession late in the 4th quarter and decided to punt as well and never got the ball back. Their defense was garbage all year long and now you expect them to stop a cold? Stupid. We're all sitting on our coaches and could see that the Packers weren't stopping anyone. These coaches put too much faith in bad defenses.Comment -
Fear of losing and lack of confidence in winning.Comment -
To hit the over obviously. What we are watching is all so foolishly dictated by betting. People will believe every other conspiracy in the world but they think sports are so cleanComment -
it's the NFC championship game, there is no next week if you lose
You're Home
take a shotComment -
that's a moot point as field position didn't really matter, as no matter what they would need get a 3 and out from their defense.
whether TB started from the 8 or from the 17 yard line. All they needed to do was get a first down and run the clock out
again I don't agree with what GB did.
but I don't think it's a decision without the benefit of hindsight, that should get lambasted as badly as it will.
going by strictly %'s in my mind. I see LaFleur as having shorted his team about 10-20% points of winning.Comment -
They should have gone for it
There is no tomorrow
But let's all be honest here, neither of these teams are any good, and Tampa is going to lose to KC by 8+
This was the weakest NFC I've ever seen and of course, just because, Brady is right in the thick of it, playing vs a 6 win Wash team, a Saints squad ge couldn't beat until Brees got hurt and a GB squad that had both the schedule and injury report line up in their favor all fukking year.Comment -
Ghost of Mike McCarty reappeared - No balls when it counted just like the Seattle title game in 2014. Arians and Reid showed how it's done in crunch time the past 2 weeks. Very frustrating to say the least...Comment -
Rodgers traded to JetsComment -
Anybody with any common sense knows you go for it there curious decisions the whole whole the man to man coverages before half was pretty stupid alsoComment -
right but at very best you had about a 20% chance of getting a TD and a 2 point conversion there.
It was no slam dunk
IMO 20% is still a better chance than getting the 3 and out, so I would have gone for it.
But this wasn't a huge swing in %'s
in fact i'm open to hearing more input on how there being evidence that in those close and late situations you are able to get the 3 and out much more frequently . I haven't checked to see what LaFleur said yet, so he might just be a coward with no balls that knew Rodgers and his playcalling was off today.Comment
