Should the outside calf kick be outlawed?

[dlowilly]

Poirier fought a great fight and deserved to win

I think the question has to be asked though. Are these calf kicks determining who is the better fighter, or are they more like fish hooking and small joint locks which are outlawed also?

Anyone who has experienced getting hit just right to the sciatic nerve there knows how debilitating it is. It is probably as acutely painful and debilitating as a kick to the nuts which isn’t legal either.

[19th Hole]

Cheers DLO...

[Nitrogen]

I think the question has to be asked though. Are these calf kicks determining who is the better fighter, or are they more like fish hooking and small joint locks which are outlawed also?

Can't that be said of a lot of things though? A perfectly (or luckily) placed pop to the ear can penetrate up someone's balance enough that by the time they regain their balance, they're at the hospital. Without that, maybe they were the "better" fighter.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Should UFC fighters wear skirts...?

[pologq]

no

there would be too many strikes that could be banned if you think like that

[SamsNCharge99]

How about punches to the face? Can they still do that?

cwhy do QBs scramble in NFL. They arent running backs. Ban it

[JayLA]

Well, you can't really regulate them because thigh kicks are so common.
Calf kicks great way to make an opponent change their stance up when standing too tall (like bitch mcgregor), control distance...And they're also a huge risk to the kicker if not done properly or if defended well.
They're very common in Muy Thai, Judo, capoeira , etc.
I think Mma is about covering all parts of the body so no, i think calf kicks are brutal but shouldn't be banned

[jjgold]

That kick did in Mac

He looked pretty sharp otherwise

[SamsNCharge99]

He left on crutches

[Shutup]

[Shutup]

Archive this thread as dumbest of the year contender with all of those by winkyyy

[pavyracer]

Only kicks to the nuts should be outlawed. Everything else is fair game.

[dlowilly]

It's using pressure points

MMA isn't about that

[Sam Losco]

he wanted to look like a tough guy taking those kicks when in reality he shouldve checked them

[gauchojake]

Check the kick. End of story.

[Skookum]

Only kicks to the nuts should be outlawed. Everything else is fair game.

Eye Gouges? Hair pulling? I could name twenty other things. I personally don't think the outside calf kick should be banned. A fighter just has to adapt on the fly. Diaz did the same thing to McGregor in the first fight,( though many of those were inside.) I wouldn't mind seeing foot stomps banned. Many of the bones in the foot are fragile, and that can end a career. Good win for Poirier though; glad I didn't bet it!

[unde0087]

Never thought I would see the day willy was asking to regulate a fight.

[TommieGunshot]

Is someone really asking about banning leg kicks in UFC? If that happens, it would no longer be the true idea of 'mixed' martial arts, it would just be a striking / grappling combination, with some martial arts moves allowed, and others not.

[Kermit]

A liver shot can instantly incapacitate you too.

[dlowilly]

Check the kick. End of story.

It is nowhere near as easy to check a calf kick as it is a normal leg kick

Groin strikes can easily be blocked BTW

[dlowilly]

A liver shot can instantly incapacitate you too.

That's one of the first things I thought of as a counter to this. It's much more difficult and dangerous to execute a liver strike. Not "cheap" like a calf kick.

I am just asking the question, not saying for sure they should be banned

[gauchojake]

Maybe we should outlaw closed fists and just have slap fights???

[pavyracer]

Eye Gouges? Hair pulling? I could name twenty other things. I personally don't think the outside calf kick should be banned. A fighter just has to adapt on the fly. Diaz did the same thing to McGregor in the first fight,( though many of those were inside.) I wouldn't mind seeing foot stomps banned. Many of the bones in the foot are fragile, and that can end a career. Good win for Poirier though; glad I didn't bet it!

Could you do an eye gouge and hair pull with a kick?

[dlowilly]

Maybe we should outlaw closed fists and just have slap fights???

Come on, let's not be ridiculous

This isn't California

[manny24]

let's just bring in the mud and bikinis and call it good

[chargers4222]

Should tall players be BANNED from the NBA? Think about it -- their arms are closer to the rim, giving them an advantage in making a higher percentage of shots compared to their shorter counterparts. I suggest limiting NBA roster spots to player 6'0" or shorter. Thoughts?

[JIBBBY]

Part of the game. Low calf kicks aren't a foul in the sport of kick boxing.. Mixed Martial Arts is just that.

Who's good at what you can exploit in a fight. I love it.. Art of war in the cage. Adapt or get laid out! That's MMA!!!

If you just want to box and not get kicked in the legs then go into Boxing only.

[dlowilly]

Can't that be said of a lot of things though? A perfectly (or luckily) placed pop to the ear can penetrate up someone's balance enough that by the time they regain their balance, they're at the hospital. Without that, maybe they were the "better" fighter.

no

there would be too many strikes that could be banned if you think like that

Well, you can't really regulate them because thigh kicks are so common.
Calf kicks great way to make an opponent change their stance up when standing too tall (like bitch mcgregor), control distance...And they're also a huge risk to the kicker if not done properly or if defended well.
They're very common in Muy Thai, Judo, capoeira , etc.
I think Mma is about covering all parts of the body so no, i think calf kicks are brutal but shouldn't be banned

Check the kick. End of story.

Is someone really asking about banning leg kicks in UFC? If that happens, it would no longer be the true idea of 'mixed' martial arts, it would just be a striking / grappling combination, with some martial arts moves allowed, and others not.

Should tall players be BANNED from the NBA? Think about it -- their arms are closer to the rim, giving them an advantage in making a higher percentage of shots compared to their shorter counterparts. I suggest limiting NBA roster spots to player 6'0" or shorter. Thoughts?

Part of the game. Low calf kicks aren't a foul in the sport of kick boxing.. Mixed Martial Arts is just that.

Who's good at what you can exploit in a fight. I love it.. Art of war in the cage. Adapt or get laid out! That's MMA!!!

If you just want to box and not get kicked in the legs then go into Boxing only.

A lot of these arguments are along the line of, "It's MMA, the fighter has to adapt."

Some things, while effective and undoubtedly used in a real fight, aren't conducive to competitive MMA. Why not let in throat strikes, hits to the back of the head, wrist locks, knees to the head of a downed opponent, etc? Because it's too debilitating and disruptive to competitive fighting.

[JIBBBY]

A lot of these arguments are along the line of, "It's MMA, the fighter has to adapt."

Some things, while effective and undoubtedly used in a real fight, aren't conducive to competitive MMA. Why not let in throat strikes, hits to the back of the head, wrist locks, knees to the head of a downed opponent, etc? Because it's too debilitating and disruptive to competitive fighting.

Well you gotta stay in the rule of all fighting disciplines and MMA stays with in those. No eye pokes, ball shots, hitting in the back of the head, etc..

MT kick boxing you can kick to the legs body or head. It's that art of combat. Boxing no ball shots and you can't hit to the back of the head. MMA incorporates all of those same rules.

If you don't like getting kicked in the legs then adapt and check them.. Put in the work, harden those bones and check with your hardened shins or knees.

[big joe 1212]

They should allow everything. Biting, scratching, clawing,etc. it would be much more enjoyable to watch

[JIBBBY]

[Kermit]

A lot of these arguments are along the line of, "It's MMA, the fighter has to adapt."

Some things, while effective and undoubtedly used in a real fight, aren't conducive to competitive MMA. Why not let in throat strikes, hits to the back of the head, wrist locks, knees to the head of a downed opponent, etc? Because it's too debilitating and disruptive to competitive fighting.

I'd be more concerned about push kicks to the knee.

[dlowilly]

Well you gotta stay in the rule of all fighting disciplines and MMA stays with in those. No eye pokes, ball shots, hitting in the back of the head, etc..

MT kick boxing you can kick to the legs body or head. It's that art of combat. Boxing no ball shots and you can't hit to the back of the head. MMA incorporates all of those same rules.

If you don't like getting kicked in the legs then adapt and check them.. Put in the work, harden those bones and check with your hardened shins or knees.

It's not about toughness or strengthening the bones. If it were I would be for it.

It's a nerve strike, a target of a pressure point. No amount of training or toughness can defend against a hit to the sciatic nerve on the outside of the calf.

[JIBBBY]

It's not about toughness or strengthening the bones. If it were I would be for it.

It's a nerve strike, a target of a pressure point. No amount of training or toughness can defend against a hit to the sciatic nerve on the outside of the calf.

Check it, jump it and avoid it.. That's MMA. MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!! Low kicks are legal. If you can't defend them then go into wrestling mode and take the kicker down.

You cannot make low kicks illegal!! END OF STORY!!!!

[thomorino]

To do that youd have to get rid of kicks all together and that would destroy the sport, it would just be boxing with some wrestling.