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  • pimike
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    • 03-23-08
    • 37140

    #36
    Originally posted by INVEGA MAN
    Clev going to lose to the Steelers who are playing without any starters.
    Plenty of starters in.
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    • ThaTopMoron
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      • 04-30-10
      • 27020

      #37
      browns have been outscored by opponents
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      • Snowball
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        • 11-15-09
        • 30058

        #38
        I bought a Browns toque hat when I was there on New Years Day 1994.

        Patriots lost to Belicheck

        The Mistake By The Lake.

        Dawg Pound chased me because I unzipped by leather jacket to reveal Patriots shirt.
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        • Mac4Lyfe
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 01-04-09
          • 48394

          #39
          Brown's coach Stefanie really tried hard to lose this game today. Some of the worst playcalling I've seen in quite some time. Took Chubb out of the game for the 2nd week in a row. How do I apply for a HC job?
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          • KVB
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 05-29-14
            • 74817

            #40
            For a second there I thought I was going to be the only guy to come out ahead in this thread.

            Instead I'm the only guy to lose the Pitt ml.

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            • jjgold
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-20-05
              • 388179

              #41
              They have no shot do not waste your money
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              • Chi_archie
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-22-08
                • 63172

                #42
                what will odds be for next weeks game?

                Steelers -4.5?
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                • champlain
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 03-19-14
                  • 713

                  #43
                  At 50-1, it’s not even good value. At Pittsburg, they will be about +160. At KC, probably +300 or worse. At buffalo or Ravens, +200. And, they will be underdogs in the super bowl. I strongly urge you to rethink this. Unless the colts wipe out the the bills and the chiefs, you won’t be able to hedge without losing money.
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                  • clockwise1965
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 10-01-13
                    • 6753

                    #44
                    Browns have no shot at any odds
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                    • KVB
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 05-29-14
                      • 74817

                      #45
                      Originally posted by champlain
                      At 50-1, it’s not even good value. At Pittsburg, they will be about +160. At KC, probably +300 or worse. At buffalo or Ravens, +200. And, they will be underdogs in the super bowl. I strongly urge you to rethink this. Unless the colts wipe out the the bills and the chiefs, you won’t be able to hedge without losing money.
                      Even at 50-1 there's plenty of room to sell back, even with your numbers.

                      Plenty.

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                      • champlain
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 03-19-14
                        • 713

                        #46
                        Originally posted by KVB
                        Even at 50-1 there's plenty of room to sell back, even with your numbers.

                        Plenty.

                        Let’s say he bets $100 to win $5000(50/1 odds) The Steelers are probably -200. He need to bet 200 on the steelers to cover his initial investment.

                        Let’s say the browns win. The chiefs will be roughly -400 against the browns. He needs to bet $1,200 on the chiefs to cover his initial investment Of $100.00 and the $200 he hedged with the Steelers.

                        By some miracle they beat the chiefs, they face the ravens or the bills, I’ll be super generous and the bills are just -175 against the browns, He needs to hedge $2,625.00 to win $1,500 to cover his initial investment and the losses he sustained hedging.

                        He’s already spent $4,125 on hedging just to get to the super bowl. I’ll be super generous again and make the packers only -125 favorites against the browns. He needs to hedge $5,187.50 to win $4,125.00. If the packers win, he doesn’t lose money. If the browns win, He loses about 4K.
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                        • Chi_archie
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-22-08
                          • 63172

                          #47
                          who is trying to hedge every game with a 100 dollar fun bet?
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                          • champlain
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 03-19-14
                            • 713

                            #48
                            Originally posted by Chi_archie
                            who is trying to hedge every game with a 100 dollar fun bet?
                            Dude, I don’t know how much money he bet. I just used $100.00 as an example to show why 50/1 is bad value.
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                            • KVB
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 05-29-14
                              • 74817

                              #49
                              I was thinking he wasn't selling back the first game...

                              Originally posted by Snowball
                              Browns Superbowl at 50/1, if they win a playoff game this gets easily hedgeable.
                              maybe even hedge every step...
                              I guess he did have a maybe though...lol.

                              It does change your numbers significantly though. It becomes $400 to win the original $100, then about $877 to win the $500. Now it's only $1377 just to get to the Super Bowl. Then a further $1721 you wanted to sell back there. At any time you could be willing to take a side for a small postion was well.

                              With the 80-1 I showed in this thread, I intend to sell the points back for profit each time. My Pitt bet was good because not only was it underdog, but it was possible to win with Pitt and still advance into the playoffs.

                              If they face KC, I'll probably be willing to incure risk and bet KC much bigger. But of course it all depends on the numbers and who faces who.

                              It's a rather fluid situation, but there's room to work with even as low as 50-1 if the plan is to start selling back "if they win a playoff game" like snow said.

                              He might have to reconsider his "maybe even hedge every step" though, it just depends on what numbers he has and what numbers he gets.

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                              • clockwise1965
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 10-01-13
                                • 6753

                                #50
                                Throwing money away
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                                • veriableodds
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 08-22-17
                                  • 5093

                                  #51
                                  SNOW we need a sugar free version
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                                  • StackinGreen
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 10-09-10
                                    • 12140

                                    #52
                                    They lose the 1st game lol, this is nutz

                                    AFC is a monster, and they are pedestrian, let's be real here
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                                    • Snowball
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 11-15-09
                                      • 30058

                                      #53
                                      Nobody paying attn, this bet is already completely paid for with the Browns ML yesterday,
                                      as mentioned in Post #7.
                                      Now I don't even have to hedge it in the playoffs.
                                      And I have them at 80/1 in sbr, the 50/1 was what they were elsewhere.
                                      They won't be 50/1 anymore.
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                                      • RudyRuetigger
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 08-24-10
                                        • 65084

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                        Ok dont let me down snowy


                                        (these are betpoints)


                                        SUPER BOWL LV (2021)
                                        [17] CLEVELAND BROWNS +8000
                                        664.00 / 53120.00
                                        Originally posted by KVB
                                        Here's what I did...

                                        Ticket#:4626288
                                        Feb 07 01:00 PM
                                        Jan 03 12:46 PM TNT SUPER BOWL LV (2021)
                                        [17] CLEVELAND BROWNS +8000
                                        100.00 / 8000.00
                                        Ticket#:4626290
                                        Jan 03 01:00 PM
                                        Jan 03 12:46 PM NFL STRAIGHT BET
                                        [109] PITTSBURGH +387
                                        51.68 / 200.00
                                        If Cleveland loses and get's bounced from the playoffs I win 100 betpoints.

                                        If they win I'm committed to 151.68 betpoints and I'll just keep laying against them, I figure 8000 is enough to work with.

                                        I figure...lol.

                                        Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                        I threw 500 on Browns +8000 to win SB as well. I'm not hedging this game. If they can't beat Pitt today. I deserve to lose.
                                        Originally posted by pimike
                                        Nope in for 200 to win 16,000
                                        can a mod let us know if these bets are good?

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                                        • Snowball
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                                          • 11-15-09
                                          • 30058

                                          #55
                                          all my futures moving forward ... Bills, Saints, BROWNS.

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                                          • johnnyvegas13
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                                            • 05-21-15
                                            • 27897

                                            #56
                                            Hard to hedgetho

                                            chiefs -11
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                                            • Snowball
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 11-15-09
                                              • 30058

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by johnnyvegas13
                                              Hard to hedgetho

                                              chiefs -11
                                              I am already hedged as mentioned in this thread. The question now is how best
                                              to navigate profit. I'll think about it later in the week.
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                                              • Snowball
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 11-15-09
                                                • 30058

                                                #58
                                                Even though this bet is already paid for, I slightly went for some profit on it by taking KC ML -490
                                                to win +160 on the Brown SB wager. It cost less than 10% of the future odds payoff.

                                                Also have TB +10 in teasers with others already won, a small ATS Browns/Chiefs Under 58 (-130, bought 1, 51+7=58)
                                                also carring before-playoffs Bills and Saints futures and a Packers NFC future from before yesterday that is just an arb.

                                                Do I think the Browns can win? Of course, that's why I only spent 9.8% of the payout.
                                                But I did it because they probably won't. For me, that reason is Andy Reid.
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                                                • Mac4Lyfe
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 01-04-09
                                                  • 48394

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by Snowball
                                                  Even though this bet is already paid for, I slightly went for some profit on it by taking KC ML -490 to win +160 on the Brown SB wager. It cost less than 10% of the future odds payoff. Also have TB +10 in teasers with others already won, a small ATS Browns/Chiefs Under 58 (-130, bought 1, 51+7=58)also carring before-playoffs Bills and Saints futures and a Packers NFC future from before yesterday that is just an arb.Do I think the Browns can win? Of course, that's why I only spent 9.8% of the payout.But I did it because they probably won't. For me, that reason is Andy Reid.
                                                  I didn't hedge either Pitt game. I just hedged KC ML for 3000 betpoints. I was going to bet more on KC to make more if KC wins but I believe in my Browns. I won't even hedge if they beat KC. Superbowl or bust.

                                                  Ticket#:4640731
                                                  Jan 17 03:05 PM
                                                  Jan 17 02:26 PM NFL STRAIGHT BET
                                                  [306] KANSAS CITY -440
                                                  3000.00 / 681.82
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                                                  • RudyRuetigger
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 08-24-10
                                                    • 65084

                                                    #60
                                                    i didnt even hedge this game


                                                    probably a loss for us and a backdoor cover though



                                                    if i have the chance, i will at half with real cash
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