Imagine taking a guaranteed 1/1000th of a payout instead of a 50% chance for a full payout.
agendaman
SBR MVP
12-01-11
3732
#2
this is a problem i encountered in college when i was taking a course in game theory it is akin to the monte hall problem gonna look it up
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388179
#3
anyone that hedges is a dead loser sports betting
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SamsNCharge99
SBR Aristocracy
10-22-08
41242
#4
i didn't have the million prior, so it's not like I'm losing a million if I'm wrong on the 50%
count me in for the chance for 1 billion dollars.....in dr.evil voice
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pologq
SBR Posting Legend
10-07-12
19899
#5
that is an interesting problem to speculate
we should do it as a poll here
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RudyRuetigger
SBR Aristocracy
08-24-10
65084
#6
Except your example isn't a math problem
I don't need a billion to live in a penthouse in some shithole like san fran/nyc
I already have everything I need...the million would just be extra toys
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Ian
SBR Hall of Famer
11-09-09
6076
#7
Meh.
If instead the question was $1 guaranteed or a 50/50 shot at $1k, everybody would take the shot at $1k.
On your example, even though the +EV is better on the latter offer, $1,000,000 is enough to live comfortably for the rest of a person's life without working. The functional utility of every dollar beyond that is less than the utility of the first million because it isn't needed for necessities or more immediate comforts.
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thetrinity
SBR Posting Legend
01-25-11
22430
#8
a better question would be like 10000 and 1000000 or 0
I would take the million because thats enough you can turn it into something
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RudyRuetigger
SBR Aristocracy
08-24-10
65084
#9
Originally posted by thetrinity
a better question would be like 10000 and 1000000 or 0
I would take the million because thats enough you can turn it into something
exactly
plus, a lot depends on your age/current job/where you live
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Runeblade
SBR MVP
09-29-17
2579
#10
Take the million. If you have a brain and I would like to think that most of us on here do, you can turn the million in many millions if you know what your doing. Why take a 50% chance on getting nothing. That seems absurd to me.
So wait, are you asking us to make $1 million bet?
At that point does the reward really matter?
They say you should write down your goals and look at them every day, for years I had a goal that I would make a $1 million bet on sports, looked at it every day.
Still trying to reach that goal 10 years later.
I don’t think it’s gonna happen.
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RudyRuetigger
SBR Aristocracy
08-24-10
65084
#13
Originally posted by KVB
So wait, are you asking us to make $1 million bet?
At that point does the reward really matter?
They say you should write down your goals and look at them every day, for years I had a goal that I would make a $1 million bet on sports, looked at it every day.
Still trying to reach that goal 10 years later.
I don’t think it’s gonna happen.
the question is dumb
because it says 1 million FOR SURE....but the image says 80%
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388179
#14
You can’t win anything in life unless you take tremendous risk
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KVB
SBR Aristocracy
05-29-14
74817
#15
Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
..because it says 1 million FOR SURE....but the image says 80%
LMAO good catch.
Maybe it's $1 million for sure but it happens 80% of the time.
After all, I have many systems that work 50% of the time, every time
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Sam Odom
SBR Aristocracy
10-30-05
58063
#16
thinking... the 80% is that 8 out of 10 people would take the 1M
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Gaze73
SBR MVP
01-27-14
3291
#17
A million can be easily spent if you want to live a little. Look at all the lottery winners. OTOH, A billion is basically infinite money for a normal person. You can buy multiple private islands or politicians with that kind of money. You can donate $10 million a year to whatever and still not run out of money for the rest of your life.
However, If you lose the coin flip you just keep living like nothing happened.
If you wanted to turn $1m into $10m by betting that would still be years of hard work.
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Gaze73
SBR MVP
01-27-14
3291
#18
Originally posted by Sam Odom
thinking... the 80% is that 8 out of 10 people would take the 1M
Yeah of course it means that, dunno why people are confused here about that lol.
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RudyRuetigger
SBR Aristocracy
08-24-10
65084
#19
Originally posted by Gaze73
Yeah of course it means that, dunno why people are confused here about that lol.
because it isnt fukkin stated that way
a new ivy league grad with a great job doesnt need a million
some posters dont need a million with their job/house/benefits/stocks
1 mil for my life is all i need
THANKS
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KVB
SBR Aristocracy
05-29-14
74817
#20
Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
because it isnt fukkin stated that way
It's a would you rather question.
I think it's implied for those who know the "would you rather" format.
That's not us Rudy, at least not until today.
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Sam Odom
SBR Aristocracy
10-30-05
58063
#21
Sammy would take the 1M
ALL things considered
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mjsuax13
Moderator
03-14-15
25115
#22
I can make another million. I’ll take my chances on the billion.
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stevenash
Moderator
01-17-11
65625
#23
Originally posted by jjgold
anyone that hedges is a dead loser sports betting
Have to agree with the bald one here.
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Runeblade
SBR MVP
09-29-17
2579
#24
Originally posted by jjgold
You can’t win anything in life unless you take tremendous risk
Replace the word tremendous with calculated and then I can agree. There have been many who have risked much and failed as well. One must know of the consequences of failure. I started betting on sports about 4 years ago and consider myself a Novice. I must have lost 10s of thousands of dollars within that time span until now. I never thought of the consequences because I thought i was going to win a lot of money like every other dumb rookie. Now I take calculated risks.
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mjsuax13
Moderator
03-14-15
25115
#25
Originally posted by Runeblade
Replace the word tremendous with calculated and then I can agree. There have been many who have risked much and failed as well. One must know of the consequences of failure. I started betting on sports about 4 years ago and consider myself a Novice. I must have lost 10s of thousands of dollars within that time span until now. I never thought of the consequences because I thought i was going to win a lot of money like every other dumb rookie. Now I take calculated risks.
Calculated or strategic are the most appropriate words. Tremendous is the time/financial pieces of it.
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BigdaddyQH
SBR Posting Legend
07-13-09
19530
#26
Originally posted by jjgold
anyone that hedges is a dead loser sports betting
Spoken by one of the biggest LOSERS ever in sports wagering. JJ. Someone is going to have to shut you up. You are a gutless loser and you know it.
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RudyRuetigger
SBR Aristocracy
08-24-10
65084
#27
Originally posted by Sam Odom
Sammy would take the 1M
ALL things considered
sammy, we are old retired guys
well actually you are much older than me
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mjsuax13
Moderator
03-14-15
25115
#28
Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
Spoken by one of the biggest LOSERS ever in sports wagering. JJ. Someone is going to have to shut you up. You are a gutless loser and you know it.
Happy Monday Sunshine. LOL.
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BigdaddyQH
SBR Posting Legend
07-13-09
19530
#29
Originally posted by Runeblade
Replace the word tremendous with calculated and then I can agree. There have been many who have risked much and failed as well. One must know of the consequences of failure. I started betting on sports about 4 years ago and consider myself a Novice. I must have lost 10s of thousands of dollars within that time span until now. I never thought of the consequences because I thought i was going to win a lot of money like every other dumb rookie. Now I take calculated risks.
If you have to talk about how much you have lost, you DO NOT have it to begin with. Only a liar mentions totals. If you knew what you are doing (and it is obvious that you do not) you would know that the amount of the wager does not matter. It is the system that counts. I can guarantee you that the amount I have set aside for wagering is MORE that the total amount of money you have. I WIN and WIN on a consistent basis. The reason why I WIN is because my system is a tried and proven system over the years. Do I win the most money percentage wise, in a calendar year? No. Do I win consistently every year? Yes. 26 out of the past 27 seasons. That is how you make money in this game.
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Sam Odom
SBR Aristocracy
10-30-05
58063
#30
Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
sammy, we are old retired guys
We think differently than young folks
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mjsuax13
Moderator
03-14-15
25115
#31
Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
If you have to talk about how much you have lost, you DO NOT have it to begin with. Only a liar mentions totals. If you knew what you are doing (and it is obvious that you do not) you would know that the amount of the wager does not matter. It is the system that counts. I can guarantee you that the amount I have set aside for wagering is MORE that the total amount of money you have. I WIN and WIN on a consistent basis. The reason why I WIN is because my system is a tried and proven system over the years. Do I win the most money percentage wise, in a calendar year? No. Do I win consistently every year? Yes. 26 out of the past 27 seasons. That is how you make money in this game.
Welcome to SBR Rune.
QH, post the plays then you big winner! Fraud.
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rm18
SBR Posting Legend
09-20-05
22291
#32
IF the 1 million means you are set for life and don't have to grind a horrible job it may be a better decision. Obviously if you are making 6 figures or have a decent net worth you have to gamble I think though.
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KVB
SBR Aristocracy
05-29-14
74817
#33
Originally posted by rm18
IF the 1 million means you are set for life and don't have to grind a horrible job it may be a better decision. Obviously if you are making 6 figures or have a decent net worth you have to gamble I think though.
Yes, yes and yes.
Like Sammy did, consider all things.
It's not like you are dipping into your own million to start with.
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mjsuax13
Moderator
03-14-15
25115
#34
Originally posted by rm18
IF the 1 million means you are set for life and don't have to grind a horrible job it may be a better decision. Obviously if you are making 6 figures or have a decent net worth you have to gamble I think though.
It’s true... $1 million would not change my life much. Just more cash to burn.
A billion... oh yeah, let’s party. I’d even throw Rudy $25 million just so he could have more time to bury some of the posters.
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pologq
SBR Posting Legend
10-07-12
19899
#35
At this point a million would set my parents up for retirement very well with what they currently have and I would have to take it. It goes straight to them.
If I was alone, not 100% sure what I would do. Leaning toward the million though.