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  • Gaze73
    SBR MVP
    • 01-27-14
    • 3291

    #1
    Normies don't have the balls to gamble


    Imagine taking a guaranteed 1/1000th of a payout instead of a 50% chance for a full payout.
  • agendaman
    SBR MVP
    • 12-01-11
    • 3732

    #2
    this is a problem i encountered in college when i was taking a course in game theory it is akin to the monte hall problem gonna look it up
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #3
      anyone that hedges is a dead loser sports betting
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      • SamsNCharge99
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 10-22-08
        • 41242

        #4
        i didn't have the million prior, so it's not like I'm losing a million if I'm wrong on the 50%

        count me in for the chance for 1 billion dollars.....in dr.evil voice
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        • pologq
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 10-07-12
          • 19899

          #5
          that is an interesting problem to speculate

          we should do it as a poll here
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          • RudyRuetigger
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 08-24-10
            • 65084

            #6
            Except your example isn't a math problem

            I don't need a billion to live in a penthouse in some shithole like san fran/nyc


            I already have everything I need...the million would just be extra toys
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            • Ian
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 11-09-09
              • 6076

              #7
              Meh.

              If instead the question was $1 guaranteed or a 50/50 shot at $1k, everybody would take the shot at $1k.

              On your example, even though the +EV is better on the latter offer, $1,000,000 is enough to live comfortably for the rest of a person's life without working. The functional utility of every dollar beyond that is less than the utility of the first million because it isn't needed for necessities or more immediate comforts.
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              • thetrinity
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 01-25-11
                • 22430

                #8
                a better question would be like 10000 and 1000000 or 0

                I would take the million because thats enough you can turn it into something
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                • RudyRuetigger
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 08-24-10
                  • 65084

                  #9
                  Originally posted by thetrinity
                  a better question would be like 10000 and 1000000 or 0

                  I would take the million because thats enough you can turn it into something
                  exactly


                  plus, a lot depends on your age/current job/where you live
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                  • Runeblade
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-29-17
                    • 2579

                    #10
                    Take the million. If you have a brain and I would like to think that most of us on here do, you can turn the million in many millions if you know what your doing. Why take a 50% chance on getting nothing. That seems absurd to me.
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                    • RudyRuetigger
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 08-24-10
                      • 65084

                      #11
                      expected growth vs expected value


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                      • KVB
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 05-29-14
                        • 74817

                        #12
                        So wait, are you asking us to make $1 million bet?

                        At that point does the reward really matter?

                        They say you should write down your goals and look at them every day, for years I had a goal that I would make a $1 million bet on sports, looked at it every day.

                        Still trying to reach that goal 10 years later.

                        I don’t think it’s gonna happen.
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                        • RudyRuetigger
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 08-24-10
                          • 65084

                          #13
                          Originally posted by KVB
                          So wait, are you asking us to make $1 million bet?

                          At that point does the reward really matter?

                          They say you should write down your goals and look at them every day, for years I had a goal that I would make a $1 million bet on sports, looked at it every day.

                          Still trying to reach that goal 10 years later.

                          I don’t think it’s gonna happen.
                          the question is dumb

                          because it says 1 million FOR SURE....but the image says 80%


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                          • jjgold
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388179

                            #14
                            You can’t win anything in life unless you take tremendous risk
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                            • KVB
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 05-29-14
                              • 74817

                              #15
                              Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                              ..because it says 1 million FOR SURE....but the image says 80%


                              LMAO good catch.

                              Maybe it's $1 million for sure but it happens 80% of the time.

                              After all, I have many systems that work 50% of the time, every time
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                              • Sam Odom
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 10-30-05
                                • 58063

                                #16
                                thinking... the 80% is that 8 out of 10 people would take the 1M
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                                • Gaze73
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-27-14
                                  • 3291

                                  #17
                                  A million can be easily spent if you want to live a little. Look at all the lottery winners. OTOH, A billion is basically infinite money for a normal person. You can buy multiple private islands or politicians with that kind of money. You can donate $10 million a year to whatever and still not run out of money for the rest of your life.

                                  However, If you lose the coin flip you just keep living like nothing happened.

                                  If you wanted to turn $1m into $10m by betting that would still be years of hard work.
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                                  • Gaze73
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-27-14
                                    • 3291

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                    thinking... the 80% is that 8 out of 10 people would take the 1M
                                    Yeah of course it means that, dunno why people are confused here about that lol.
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                                    • RudyRuetigger
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 08-24-10
                                      • 65084

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Gaze73
                                      Yeah of course it means that, dunno why people are confused here about that lol.
                                      because it isnt fukkin stated that way



                                      a new ivy league grad with a great job doesnt need a million


                                      some posters dont need a million with their job/house/benefits/stocks

                                      1 mil for my life is all i need


                                      THANKS
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                                      • KVB
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 05-29-14
                                        • 74817

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                        because it isnt fukkin stated that way
                                        It's a would you rather question.

                                        I think it's implied for those who know the "would you rather" format.

                                        That's not us Rudy, at least not until today.
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                                        • Sam Odom
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 10-30-05
                                          • 58063

                                          #21
                                          Sammy would take the 1M

                                          ALL things considered
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                                          • mjsuax13
                                            Moderator
                                            • 03-14-15
                                            • 25115

                                            #22
                                            I can make another million. I’ll take my chances on the billion.
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                                            • stevenash
                                              Moderator
                                              • 01-17-11
                                              • 65629

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                              anyone that hedges is a dead loser sports betting
                                              Have to agree with the bald one here.
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                                              • Runeblade
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-29-17
                                                • 2579

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                                You can’t win anything in life unless you take tremendous risk
                                                Replace the word tremendous with calculated and then I can agree. There have been many who have risked much and failed as well. One must know of the consequences of failure. I started betting on sports about 4 years ago and consider myself a Novice. I must have lost 10s of thousands of dollars within that time span until now. I never thought of the consequences because I thought i was going to win a lot of money like every other dumb rookie. Now I take calculated risks.
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                                                • mjsuax13
                                                  Moderator
                                                  • 03-14-15
                                                  • 25115

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Runeblade
                                                  Replace the word tremendous with calculated and then I can agree. There have been many who have risked much and failed as well. One must know of the consequences of failure. I started betting on sports about 4 years ago and consider myself a Novice. I must have lost 10s of thousands of dollars within that time span until now. I never thought of the consequences because I thought i was going to win a lot of money like every other dumb rookie. Now I take calculated risks.
                                                  Calculated or strategic are the most appropriate words. Tremendous is the time/financial pieces of it.
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                                                  • BigdaddyQH
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 07-13-09
                                                    • 19530

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                                    anyone that hedges is a dead loser sports betting
                                                    Spoken by one of the biggest LOSERS ever in sports wagering. JJ. Someone is going to have to shut you up. You are a gutless loser and you know it.
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                                                    • RudyRuetigger
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 08-24-10
                                                      • 65084

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                                      Sammy would take the 1M

                                                      ALL things considered
                                                      sammy, we are old retired guys


                                                      well actually you are much older than me

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                                                      • mjsuax13
                                                        Moderator
                                                        • 03-14-15
                                                        • 25115

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                                                        Spoken by one of the biggest LOSERS ever in sports wagering. JJ. Someone is going to have to shut you up. You are a gutless loser and you know it.
                                                        Happy Monday Sunshine. LOL.
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                                                        • BigdaddyQH
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 07-13-09
                                                          • 19530

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Runeblade
                                                          Replace the word tremendous with calculated and then I can agree. There have been many who have risked much and failed as well. One must know of the consequences of failure. I started betting on sports about 4 years ago and consider myself a Novice. I must have lost 10s of thousands of dollars within that time span until now. I never thought of the consequences because I thought i was going to win a lot of money like every other dumb rookie. Now I take calculated risks.
                                                          If you have to talk about how much you have lost, you DO NOT have it to begin with. Only a liar mentions totals. If you knew what you are doing (and it is obvious that you do not) you would know that the amount of the wager does not matter. It is the system that counts. I can guarantee you that the amount I have set aside for wagering is MORE that the total amount of money you have. I WIN and WIN on a consistent basis. The reason why I WIN is because my system is a tried and proven system over the years. Do I win the most money percentage wise, in a calendar year? No. Do I win consistently every year? Yes. 26 out of the past 27 seasons. That is how you make money in this game.
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                                                          • Sam Odom
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 10-30-05
                                                            • 58063

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by RudyRuetigger



                                                            sammy, we are old retired guys

                                                            We think differently than young folks
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                                                            • mjsuax13
                                                              Moderator
                                                              • 03-14-15
                                                              • 25115

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                                                              If you have to talk about how much you have lost, you DO NOT have it to begin with. Only a liar mentions totals. If you knew what you are doing (and it is obvious that you do not) you would know that the amount of the wager does not matter. It is the system that counts. I can guarantee you that the amount I have set aside for wagering is MORE that the total amount of money you have. I WIN and WIN on a consistent basis. The reason why I WIN is because my system is a tried and proven system over the years. Do I win the most money percentage wise, in a calendar year? No. Do I win consistently every year? Yes. 26 out of the past 27 seasons. That is how you make money in this game.
                                                              Welcome to SBR Rune.

                                                              QH, post the plays then you big winner! Fraud.
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                                                              • rm18
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 09-20-05
                                                                • 22291

                                                                #32
                                                                IF the 1 million means you are set for life and don't have to grind a horrible job it may be a better decision. Obviously if you are making 6 figures or have a decent net worth you have to gamble I think though.
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                                                                • KVB
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 05-29-14
                                                                  • 74817

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by rm18
                                                                  IF the 1 million means you are set for life and don't have to grind a horrible job it may be a better decision. Obviously if you are making 6 figures or have a decent net worth you have to gamble I think though.
                                                                  Yes, yes and yes.

                                                                  Like Sammy did, consider all things.

                                                                  It's not like you are dipping into your own million to start with.

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                                                                  • mjsuax13
                                                                    Moderator
                                                                    • 03-14-15
                                                                    • 25115

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by rm18
                                                                    IF the 1 million means you are set for life and don't have to grind a horrible job it may be a better decision. Obviously if you are making 6 figures or have a decent net worth you have to gamble I think though.
                                                                    It’s true... $1 million would not change my life much. Just more cash to burn.

                                                                    A billion... oh yeah, let’s party. I’d even throw Rudy $25 million just so he could have more time to bury some of the posters.
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                                                                    • pologq
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 10-07-12
                                                                      • 19899

                                                                      #35
                                                                      At this point a million would set my parents up for retirement very well with what they currently have and I would have to take it. It goes straight to them.

                                                                      If I was alone, not 100% sure what I would do. Leaning toward the million though.
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