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  • Itsamazing777
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-14-12
    • 12602

    #1
    People will keep cashing in unemployment
    Especially since your state is adding 600 a week on top
    No way people who go back to work in 2 or 3 weeks, are going to turn down that claiming that money until july 31 when it runs out. I think a lot of degens and low wage workers will be doing this. Be careful
  • Sam Odom
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-30-05
    • 58063

    #2
    Large % are taking home more $$$ now on Unemployment than when working
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    • Itsamazing777
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 11-14-12
      • 12602

      #3
      Yeah and they will keep claiming when they go back to work full time temptation too great with that large a check
      There will be massive fraud
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      • Black Coffee
        SBR MVP
        • 05-04-19
        • 1187

        #4
        Yep, for those that get it.
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        • RudyRuetigger
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 08-24-10
          • 65084

          #5
          maybe i should file for it

          i did lose some online work

          ill probably lose around $5000 from this
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          • big joe 1212
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 06-01-08
            • 19380

            #6
            If you were making 53k or less, you are now making more on unemployment
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            • pimike
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 03-23-08
              • 37140

              #7
              This is the dumbest thing Trump did!
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              • SBR Tony
                Moderator
                • 01-31-18
                • 3934

                #8
                agree with all of you.

                why go back to work when you're making more staying home? it's simple mathematics
                there will be a mad dash for jobs come July when that extra $$ stops
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                • SamsNCharge99
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 10-22-08
                  • 41242

                  #9
                  I am on unemployment but going back to work once told i’m essential and able

                  no way will i keep claiming. Sure extra $2-3-4k over a month is nice. But is that worth the potential future problem and fines. Nope
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                  • Iona
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-08-10
                    • 4244

                    #10
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                    • Grits n' Gravy
                      Restricted User
                      • 06-10-10
                      • 13024

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Itsamazing777
                      Yeah and they will keep claiming when they go back to work full time temptation too great with that large a check
                      There will be massive fraud
                      So individuals will just imitate what the government has done for centuries and steal?
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                      • Itsamazing777
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 11-14-12
                        • 12602

                        #12
                        Originally posted by SamsNCharge99
                        I am on unemployment but going back to work once told i’m essential and able

                        no way will i keep claiming. Sure extra $2-3-4k over a month is nice. But is that worth the potential future problem and fines. Nope
                        On the flip side. A lot of potential for income was not available during this shutdown. Sure people get unemployment but their options of trying to make more of they so chose also ceased with the shutdown. Arguements on both sides for sure
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                        • Grits n' Gravy
                          Restricted User
                          • 06-10-10
                          • 13024

                          #13
                          Originally posted by SamsNCharge99
                          I am on unemployment but going back to work once told i’m essential and able

                          no way will i keep claiming. Sure extra $2-3-4k over a month is nice. But is that worth the potential future problem and fines. Nope
                          Car salesman are never going to be considered essential.
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                          • themike78
                            SBR MVP
                            • 07-01-13
                            • 4873

                            #14
                            People don't understand you can't keep collecting if your job hires you back. If you refuse to go back to work the unemployment gets shut off.
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                            • Sam Odom
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 10-30-05
                              • 58063

                              #15
                              .
                              .


                              <--- Sammy been ineligible for unemployment for past 20 yrs
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                              • lakerboy
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 04-02-09
                                • 94379

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                                Car salesman are never going to be considered essential.
                                Not sure why Sammy isn't selling cars still? Up here people are still buying cars online and salesman goes over terns on phone.
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                                • capitalist pig
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-25-07
                                  • 4998

                                  #17
                                  My wife was laid off in March, a job she has had for 20+ years. She has collected the $600 federal and $275 a week state for four weeks now, less than she normally makes

                                  Today she was called back to work and she gladly accepted the offer. The HR lady told her anyone who doesn’t accept the job offer will be turned in to the state unemployment dept as refusing to go back to work and will lose their unemployment benefits ASAP and have to re pay anything they collect after refusing to go back to work

                                  These people who think their going to sit around after being offered their jobs back and keep collecting unemployment are wrong.

                                  I’m retired so none of this mess affects me thankfully

                                  Later
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                                  • Itsamazing777
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 11-14-12
                                    • 12602

                                    #18
                                    [QUOTE=Grits n' Gravy;29418522]So individuals will just imitate what the government has done for centuries and steal?[/QUOTE.

                                    im all for for it
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                                    • jjgold
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 07-20-05
                                      • 388179

                                      #19
                                      What is smart you can take these people’s jobs because I got to sit on their ass get unemployment and companies are going to hire new people
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                                      • unusialsusp5
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 04-18-10
                                        • 4198

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by themike78
                                        People don't understand you can't keep collecting if your job hires you back. If you refuse to go back to work the unemployment gets shut off.
                                        only if the employer reports you. no way companies are paying 50% of the amount anymore like they used to. companies and workers will all milk this for another month or two beyond entitlement. the extra 600 clams runs out in late july anyway.
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                                        • TommieGunshot
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 03-27-12
                                          • 1607

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by pimike
                                          This is the dumbest thing Trump did!
                                          It's brilliant. It doesn't cost Trump anything to give away money, it only costs the taxpayers. And no one who supported him before he gave away all this money is going to stop supporting him just for turning America into a socialist country.
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                                          • Itsamazing777
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 11-14-12
                                            • 12602

                                            #22
                                            Well i believe the unemployment agency sends quarterly earnings sheets to your employer. When they report your wages they arent trying to get u in trouble but the state will see you earned a check and still claimed. A few months later. That's how i understood it worked. tempting though
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                                            • louisvillekid
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 08-14-07
                                              • 9262

                                              #23
                                              I don't know how others states do unemployment, but here in Ky you only collect a percentage of what you earned on AVERAGE over the last 4 quarters. Plus there is a cap on weekly amount. I think it's around $400, maybe 400ish. So people that make well above that amount would be running back to work.
                                              Plus with how the averaging of previous 4 quarters of earnings works, some people could be only getting $150 or something low similar to that.

                                              When you file they immediately disregard the quarter you file in. Say you file on April 2nd, they aren't going to use April 1st - June 30th, because you wouldn't have a fair amount of earnings to get a decent average. I think, and it's been awhile since I've been on it, that they skip your most recent 2 quarters, and then go with the previous 4 and average that out, and then give you a percentage of that.

                                              Ex: If filed right now, they would skip April 1st-June 30th Q and the Jan 1st-March 31st Q, which would leave the 4 quarters of 2019.
                                              Now say someone didn't work as much 1 or 2 of those quarters last year because of illness, or any circumstance really, or maybe they had a lower paying job, and then switched or whatever to a better paying job for 1-2 of those quarters. A person may have low earnings for 1-2 quarters and then higher earnings for 1-2 of the quarters. So then after getting the 4 quarters average earnings, they use a formula and that is what you get every 2 weeks. Plus it's taxed(you can elect not to have tax withheld, but risk owing the state & federal come tax season)

                                              No one could've been working a low paying job and then just happened to of graduated college or whatever, and just started making decent money for only like a month , and then lose that job because of the pandemic or any reason not justified by the employer, and then start collecting unemployment checks based on that most recent higher paying job. And they sure as fook, ain't gonna get full amount.
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                                              • Mr. Peepers
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-22-09
                                                • 1425

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                                                Car salesman are never going to be considered essential.

                                                We are in WI as long as there is a parts or service dept associated with the sales dept. Used dealerships that remained open in WI are killing it this month.
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                                                • SamsNCharge99
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 10-22-08
                                                  • 41242

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                  Not sure why Sammy isn't selling cars still? Up here people are still buying cars online and salesman goes over terns on phone.
                                                  Managers and internet managers are allowed. Customers arent allowed to rest drive or discuss business in the store. 100% of communication over phone and email. Final contracts are allowed to be signed in store.

                                                  also service is open
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                                                  • shocka1212
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 10-06-12
                                                    • 16788

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by SamsNCharge99
                                                    I am on unemployment but going back to work once told i’m essential and able

                                                    no way will i keep claiming. Sure extra $2-3-4k over a month is nice. But is that worth the potential future problem and fines. Nope
                                                    not everyone thinks like you Sammy but you're absolutely correct. this is what a Bernie Sanders America would look like to a degree. Not to get political but.......
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                                                    • SBR_Guest_Pro
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 02-10-15
                                                      • 3955

                                                      #27
                                                      even with the extra $600, on unemployment i'm making less than half of my normal income. If i can get a job back at my normal salary then i'll go back to work asap. But anything less than that then I might as well stay on unemployment.
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                                                      • shocka1212
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 10-06-12
                                                        • 16788

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by SBR_Guest_Pro
                                                        even with the extra $600, on unemployment i'm making less than half of my normal income. If i can get a job back at my normal salary then i'll go back to work asap. But anything less than that then I might as well stay on unemployment.
                                                        was on pace for a record year before this BS...... can't wait for it to end.
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                                                        • Grits n' Gravy
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 06-10-10
                                                          • 13024

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                          Not sure why Sammy isn't selling cars still? Up here people are still buying cars online and salesman goes over terns on phone.
                                                          Here the lots are suppose to be by appt only but you Can walk them and a salesman will come out to bother you just like always though. I need to get my nephew a car for graduation. Was trying to browse Jeep on Sahara in peace yest but 3 different guys came up.
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                                                          • TommieGunshot
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 03-27-12
                                                            • 1607

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by shocka1212
                                                            not everyone thinks like you Sammy but you're absolutely correct. this is what a Bernie Sanders America would look like to a degree. Not to get political but.......
                                                            It's fascinating that Trump's America looks so similar to Bernie Sanders America. And that is exactly what Trump supporter want and is exactly why they are going to re-elect him in November.
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                                                            • TonyPhizzle
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 08-30-17
                                                              • 410

                                                              #31
                                                              I’m getting 760/week until July 25th. Then it goes back down to $160/week
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                                                              • BriGuy
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 12-06-11
                                                                • 1556

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by louisvillekid
                                                                I don't know how others states do unemployment, but here in Ky you only collect a percentage of what you earned on AVERAGE over the last 4 quarters. Plus there is a cap on weekly amount. I think it's around $400, maybe 400ish. So people that make well above that amount would be running back to work.
                                                                Plus with how the averaging of previous 4 quarters of earnings works, some people could be only getting $150 or something low similar to that.

                                                                When you file they immediately disregard the quarter you file in. Say you file on April 2nd, they aren't going to use April 1st - June 30th, because you wouldn't have a fair amount of earnings to get a decent average. I think, and it's been awhile since I've been on it, that they skip your most recent 2 quarters, and then go with the previous 4 and average that out, and then give you a percentage of that.

                                                                Ex: If filed right now, they would skip April 1st-June 30th Q and the Jan 1st-March 31st Q, which would leave the 4 quarters of 2019.
                                                                Now say someone didn't work as much 1 or 2 of those quarters last year because of illness, or any circumstance really, or maybe they had a lower paying job, and then switched or whatever to a better paying job for 1-2 of those quarters. A person may have low earnings for 1-2 quarters and then higher earnings for 1-2 of the quarters. So then after getting the 4 quarters average earnings, they use a formula and that is what you get every 2 weeks. Plus it's taxed(you can elect not to have tax withheld, but risk owing the state & federal come tax season)

                                                                No one could've been working a low paying job and then just happened to of graduated college or whatever, and just started making decent money for only like a month , and then lose that job because of the pandemic or any reason not justified by the employer, and then start collecting unemployment checks based on that most recent higher paying job. And they sure as fook, ain't gonna get full amount.
                                                                That's pretty much how most states do it but then you add in $600 a week for every single person on unemployment from now until July 31. For a lot of people, that's a raise. My girlfriend works part time at a library. Gets paid about $550 (take home) every 2 weeks. She got furloughed, and is now getting $1,396 (take home) every 2 weeks. What a country.
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                                                                • BriGuy
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 12-06-11
                                                                  • 1556

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by TonyPhizzle
                                                                  I’m getting 760/week until July 25th. Then it goes back down to $160/week
                                                                  I would be very surprised if they drop the $600 from the federal government at the end of July. There will be a lot of pressure from the public to keep that benefit. It may scale down, but I'll be surprised if it doesn't get extended in some manner.
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                                                                  • SBR_Guest_Pro
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 02-10-15
                                                                    • 3955

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by BriGuy
                                                                    I would be very surprised if they drop the $600 from the federal government at the end of July. There will be a lot of pressure from the public to keep that benefit. It may scale down, but I'll be surprised if it doesn't get extended in some manner.
                                                                    The government wont be able to pass another stimulus bill to afford that. They didn't expect this many millions of people to go on unemployment
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                                                                    • ronald
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 10-31-05
                                                                      • 4919

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Itsamazing777
                                                                      Especially since your state is adding 600 a week on top
                                                                      No way people who go back to work in 2 or 3 weeks, are going to turn down that claiming that money until july 31 when it runs out. I think a lot of degens and low wage workers will be doing this. Be careful
                                                                      Absolutely.

                                                                      Horrible government policy.
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