New ABC News poll...

[d2bets]

not a single mainstream news channel has presented the opinion that we shouldn't have shelter in place orders... for over a month they have repeated the lie that keeping healthy people locked in their homes helps general health and welfare

human contact, vitamin d (sunlight), being active, those are all things that make people healthy and happy

You can be active and get Vitamin D right now. No one is stopping that. I just went for a run and then sat out in the sun for a bit. I feel great and did it with no covid-19 risk. Outside of my family in my house, I'll avid the human contact part for awhile.

[fried cheese]

But where’s the financial gain. Every other act in history always leads to a financial gain. There’s no way all of this is just so Fauci can be a figurehead. You have to think in the sense of what person or entity benefits so greatly from doing this that it outweighs stalling the economy, high unemployment, etc. I don’t see where the financial benefit goes and to that that’s why I believe that there must be more truth to why we have to be cautious with this. Maybe information that doesn’t get released or whatnot I have no idea. Until I can see the gain from doing all of this for no reason I’m going to believe that it’s in the well-being of people. But if you do think you can pinpoint where the financial gain would come from I would open to hearing that

when you tank economies ppl with large amounts of capital get to buy things very cheaply.

[Rain Chains]

How about Dr. Michael Osterholm?

This guy has been studying and talking about this stuff for decades.

Being a practicing doctor seeing patients is meaningless when it comes to this stuff.

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So basically, we can't defeat this virus from being locked down and it's going to spread anyhow?

We should open now since hospitals are not overwhelmed and practice smart social distancing in public. The death rate is much lower than expected which is very good news.

[d2bets]

So basically, we can't defeat this virus from being locked down and it's going to spread anyhow?

We should open now since hospitals are not overwhelmed and practice smart social distancing in public. The death rate is much lower than expected which is very good news.

I agree that we can do this on a rolling geographic basis once we have a system of testing and contact tracing in place. A system of widely available testing is that is widespread, easy, fast and reliable. Unfortunately the Federal Government has dropped the ball on getting this into place nationwide. They are on the clock. Until they do that we can't safely reopen and if we do then we will be hit by another escalating outbreak.

[Wabashwonders]

You can be active and get Vitamin D right now. No one is stopping that. I just went for a run and then sat out in the sun for a bit. I feel great and did it with no covid-19 risk. Outside of my family in my house, I'll avid the human contact part for awhile.

As you have said to me in the past, don’t waste your time with guys like this. He will never understand what’s going on.

[goduke]

when you tank economies ppl with large amounts of capital get to buy things very cheaply.

Okay so what are they buying? What is worth needing to buy so cheaply in exchange for what has happened?

[fried cheese]

Okay so what are they buying? What is worth needing to buy so cheaply in exchange for what has happened?

they can buy whole countries basically. look at the countries dependent on the oil economy. they are totally broke now and will be very desperate in the future. a guy or corporation with billions could buy up all the major industries and control the country.

[milwaukee mike]

they can buy whole countries basically. look at the countries dependent on the oil economy. they are totally broke now and will be very desperate in the future. a guy or corporation with billions could buy up all the major industries and control the country.

great point, they used to call it the "shemitah" where every 7 years there would be a jewish cleansing/crash/rebirth ... 1987/1994/2001/2008 when markets tanked... looks like they skipped 2015 when everyone was expecting it and went to 2020

was funny that they referred to it as a 7-year business cycle when it was totally planned

[goduke]

they can buy whole countries basically. look at the countries dependent on the oil economy. they are totally broke now and will be very desperate in the future. a guy or corporation with billions could buy up all the major industries and control the country.

So you’re saying our government crashed our economy, restricted our ability to socialize, kept us quarantine so that our government can buy another country? What country would hold that much interest that what we are doing would be so valuable? Also your comment based on oil was a move by the Saudi’s to blitz into the market. Nothing to do with covid. I just think you’re reaching. I don’t think any country is that valuable that would be for sale plus it would take even more money to get that country to basically operate with our interests if that was the plan. Your reason to me doesn’t seem to be viable because it clearly looks like more of an expense then a financial gain

[fried cheese]

So you’re saying our government crashed our economy, restricted our ability to socialize, kept us quarantine so that our government can buy another country? What country would hold that much interest that what we are doing would be so valuable? Also your comment based on oil was a move by the Saudi’s to blitz into the market. Nothing to do with covid. I just think you’re reaching. I don’t think any country is that valuable that would be for sale plus it would take even more money to get that country to basically operate with our interests if that was the plan. Your reason to me doesn’t seem to be viable because it clearly looks like more of an expense then a financial gain

you asked how someone could gain monetarily from the corona virus closing the world economy. i gave an example. the saudis actions were caused by covid. as a result of the quarantine, the price of oil dropped because of lack of demand. the saudis wanted russia to cut production in order to raise oil prices. russia refused and the saudis got pissed and started a price war.

our government has been known to do the bidding of corporations in the past. we assassinate leaders, cause civil war, and invade countries because corporations want cheap labor, land, oil rights, etc. the expense is to the tax payer not the corporation. their expense is what it costs them to gain influence in the government.

i have no idea if its some conspiracy or politicians just being afraid of death toll headlines. its probably a combination of profiteering and fear. i doubt that politicians have suddenly started caring about the deaths of innocents around the world.

india has less than 1k deaths from covid but they locked down and police have allegedly beat a guy to death for trying to buy groceries. they have 400k-500k ppl that die of tb there every year and that is a disease that has a cure.

[goduke]

you asked how someone could gain monetarily from the corona virus closing the world economy. i gave an example. the saudis actions were caused by covid. as a result of the quarantine, the price of oil dropped because of lack of demand. the saudis wanted russia to cut production in order to raise oil prices. russia refused and the saudis got pissed and started a price war.

our government has been known to do the bidding of corporations in the past. we assassinate leaders, cause civil war, and invade countries because corporations want cheap labor, land, oil rights, etc. the expense is to the tax payer not the corporation. their expense is what it costs them to gain influence in the government.

i have no idea if its some conspiracy or politicians just being afraid of death toll headlines. its probably a combination of profiteering and fear. i doubt that politicians have suddenly started caring about the deaths of innocents around the world.

india has less than 1k deaths from covid but they locked down and police have allegedly beat a guy to death for trying to buy groceries. they have 400k-500k ppl that die of tb there every year and that is a disease that has a cure.

Yeah I’m mainly looking at how people in charge making these decisions profit by doing this. That’s was kind of what I was trying to understand. Many are saying we should open up here and that the government is doing it to control us and I was trying to understand if that was the case how are they benefiting monetarily by doing this

[mezmurized2]

our government has been known to do the bidding of corporations in the past. we assassinate leaders, cause civil war, and invade countries because corporations want cheap labor, land, oil rights, etc. the expense is to the tax payer not the corporation. their expense is what it costs them to gain influence in the government.

i have no idea if its some conspiracy or politicians just being afraid of death toll headlines. its probably a combination of profiteering and fear. i doubt that politicians have suddenly started caring about the deaths of innocents around the world.

Interesting...