back in the 80's, we had great rivalries with some of the greatest players in the history of the game...the Lakers with Kareem, Magic, Worthy, etc...the Celtics with Bird, Parrish, Mchale, etc...the Bulls with Jordan, Pippen, etc...the Jazz with Stockton and Malone, the bad boy Pistons with Laimbeer, Rodman, Thomas, etc...and even into the 90's with the Spurs with Robinson and Parker, Heat with Shaq and Wade, Lakers with Shaq and Kobe, etc...all of those teams had skill players that could score from anywhere on the court, inside and outside, and they all played exceptional defense...every shot in the lane or on the perimeter was contested...that is why the first two dream teams that we had back in 92 absolutely obliterated and destroyed the worldwide competition by 40+ points a game...but then circa mid 90's is when the total garbage network (ESPN) and stuart scott and the other obnoxious hosts, started to glorify individual players, only showing dunks on sportscenter, acting like the cross-over dribble was an excellent move when truth be told you can see it on any school playground...it was all about the hip hop and rap culture that was being embraced my the media and our nation as a whole during this time period...the NBA had become a shit product of slashing and dashing and dunking...the outside shot was lost art...no one could shoot the damn ball beyond the arc with the exception of a few players...this chain of events led to more European and South American players practicing on their outside game...it was the only way they could compete at the professional level, particularly in the NBA...and you've seen the results as mentioned in this thread...the NBA is now a perimeter oriented game because half the players are from other countries around the world...the days of big, dominant centers are gone...and the slashing/dashing game has disappeared because of simple math..3 > 2!...and this doesn't even include the global commercialization of the product not to mention ridiculous stoppages, commercials, time outs, theatrics with cheerleaders, overpriced ticket for a garbage product, etc!...it's funny how everything in the NBA comes full circle.
NBA these days so unwatchable
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Da Manster!SBR Posting Legend
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#36Comment -
Mike HuntertzSBR Posting Legend
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#37Great graphic. If you're not in the key kick it out......has to be coached?Originally posted by byronbb
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SnowballBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 11-15-09
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#38the league did it with their rule changes
no idea what holds the product together anymoreComment -
stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#39The ESPN hype holds it together.Originally posted by Snowballthe league did it with their rule changes
no idea what holds the product together anymore
WNBA too is held together by the NBA which is held together by ESPN and to a lesser extent Turner.Comment -
Harry N. LloydSBR MVP
- 03-26-08
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#40In full agreement with everyone here. Faulty product.
I bet the games every night but still can't get myself to watch 'em.
They have to consider lengthening the 3. And tell the refs to put the whistles away.Comment -
Da Manster!SBR Posting Legend
- 07-13-07
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#41I mentioned this in my post as well...another reason why I refuse to watch the total garbage network anymore.Originally posted by stevenashThe ESPN hype holds it together.
WNBA too is held together by the NBA which is held together by ESPN and to a lesser extent Turner.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
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#42People don’t wanna watch sports where there’s no defenseComment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
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#43Pro life time Gamblers at it for years don't wanna watch (full game) sports cause they have to many bets riding and pending on a daily schedule.Originally posted by jjgoldPeople don’t wanna watch sports where there’s no defense
Ya check in on scores, O/U live totals, individual player in game stats and numbers and highlights at best.. Watch the highlights on NBA TV, Sportcenter, highlight daily breakdown vids on line, etc. That's when you have the time at the end of the day or early next morning..Comment -
shadymcgradySBR Posting Legend
- 02-27-12
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#44Ratings drop is a real concern with Adam silver and the NBA. The smokescreen to deflect this financial crisis employed by silver is bullsht talk about a tournament playoff style. One in which the owners have balked and laughed behind closed doors as a non topic discussion.
Daryl Morey has almost single handedly ruined the NBA up to this point with his advanced analytics. For anyone who isn't familiar in advanced mathematical models employed by MIT graduates, the shot chart posted throughout this thread sums it up.
No one wants to see James harden jack up 50 threes and beg the refs for charity. It's not basketball, it's a joke. Losers like Trae young have followed in his footsteps with garbage time stats that mean absolutely nothing. The NBA has a lot of dogsht to scrape up if they want to recover their brandComment -
CappinTerpSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-26-09
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#45How bad is this ?? No kidding,ESPN has a count down...time remaining until Zion plays !!Comment -
stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#46And I for one don’t give a crap about a creaky boned rookie playing 16 minutes tonight.Originally posted by CappinTerpHow bad is this ?? No kidding,ESPN has a count down...time remaining until Zion plays !!
He’ll be a good NBA player but he won’t be Shaq for instance.Comment -
Mr. TeaserSBR MVP
- 08-16-09
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#47Nope. It's that bad. Just check the box score or the score when they flash it on the ticker.Originally posted by asiagamblerThe game has been solved so of course it's boring now
All you have to do is bet on the game and it suddenly becomes watchable againComment -
Mr. TeaserSBR MVP
- 08-16-09
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#48No lie..ESPN ran non stop on its news and score ticker last night.....Zion doesn't think he'll sleep tonight before the game tomorrow. Are you f ing kidding me.Originally posted by CappinTerpHow bad is this ?? No kidding,ESPN has a count down...time remaining until Zion plays !!Comment -
spippenSBR MVP
- 03-17-09
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#49Unfortunately the alternative is not to watch. I watched the 90's All Star teams like the Celts, Bulls, Suns, Knicks, Hornets, Jazz, Sonics etc etc so yes today's game is not anywhere near as great as it was back then. The other alternative is to watch a bunch of BUM college players and college coaches and college refs. No Thanks- Is watch the WNBA before today's college hoops. Talk about fukkkin BORING!Comment -
thechaozSBR Posting Legend
- 10-23-09
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#50Chinese commie sell outsComment -
homerbushSBR MVP
- 11-17-08
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#51If the shots In the key were tilted toOriginally posted by Mike HuntertzGreat graphic. If you're not in the key kick it out......has to be coached?
The right you would have a perfect Miami heat logoComment -
stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#52lolOriginally posted by homerbushIf the shots In the key were tilted to
The right you would have a perfect Miami heat logo
Did you see the absurd total on tonight’s Heat game?Comment -
krk1030SBR Posting Legend
- 08-13-08
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#53TNT games tonight....basically just like watching shootaround.
16 of 24 from three in the first quarter or Dallas and Portland
After LA and Brooklyn made like 50 of themComment -
IBetYouSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-03-15
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#54Blazers (& Rockets) games are always like this. Kevin Harlem think it's Amaaaaaaaaaaaazing. Nets aren't playing defense lately so that explains the other one.Comment -
krk1030SBR Posting Legend
- 08-13-08
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#55Blazers 17 of 29 from deep through 3 quarters and are getting killed.Comment -
rm18SBR Posting Legend
- 09-20-05
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#56The game is played at a very high level I dont think teams from 20-30 years ago could beat these teams, but the more one on one basketball was a little more fun to watch to me even though less efficient than 3 after 3.Comment -
slayer14SBR Posting Legend
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#57Its not a high level defense most of the 3 pointer attempted are without any defense and open shotsComment -
byronbbSBR MVP
- 11-13-08
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#58analytics and AI will strip all the fun out of life and we'll all turn into robotsOriginally posted by rm18The game is played at a very high level I dont think teams from 20-30 years ago could beat these teams, but the more one on one basketball was a little more fun to watch to me even though less efficient than 3 after 3.Comment -
stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#59That’s not true.Originally posted by byronbbanalytics and AI will strip all the fun out of life and we'll all turn into robots
Analytics have been utilized forever just not at today’s levels.
For instance teams in the 50’s used analytics and shifted the infield on Ted Williams.
i’m big analytics guy, there’s ways to beat the shift in baseball, there’s ways to defend the barrage of three pointers in basketball....Comment -
shadymcgradySBR Posting Legend
- 02-27-12
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#60Time for Daryl Morey to get fired and start a hedgefundComment -
stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#61Well yeah I agree.Originally posted by shadymcgradyTime for Daryl Morey to get fired and start a hedgefund
Problem with Morey is is he’s not flexible.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
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#62no defense killed the gameComment -
Yulia74SBR MVP
- 08-28-18
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#63like nba all star games, no defenseOriginally posted by slayer14Its not a high level defense most of the 3 pointer attempted are without any defense and open shots
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