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  • asiagambler
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    • 07-23-17
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    #141
    Originally posted by 2daBank
    Totally agree w big blue just am not good trying to lay dd in this conf. Every time I lay points in these big 10 games a total shitfest breaks out.

    For most part Everyone I respect playing the fla/mizzou game agrees w you or under which I think could be a solid play. I just don’t trust this mizzou team, I feel like their pass d stats are largely overblown due to playing a whole gang of teams/QBs that pretty bad or avg at the very best throwing the ball so I’m not sure how good they really are? I don’t think they the elite unit the numbers say.

    I don’t trust Bryant hammy to be well enough he can run around which concerns me.

    I have less feel for this tigers team than lot of prior years as they just been hugely disappointing and never interesting enough I paid much attention! Lol. I wonder how they feel about the season at this point considering they acted as if they thought they be undefeated before going to Uga then this game! Obviously things didn’t work out that way so I dunno what to expect really? Kinda doubt they play a emotionally charged hair on fire type game but maybe they surprise me in that regard. They do got the most drastic home/road splits in country or I ever freaking recall so you got that going for you!’

    My friends been asking me bout this game all week and I keep telling them I have not a clue. Lol
    These are all good points. I took moneyline because I just wasn't too sure and felt like it could be all or nothing type of play to where even 7 points don't matter
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    • 2daBank
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      • 01-26-09
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      #142
      Originally posted by asiagambler
      These are all good points. I took moneyline because I just wasn't too sure and felt like it could be all or nothing type of play to where even 7 points don't matter
      I didn’t notice that till after my post but I totally agree w playing it that way if so inclined to back mizzou. 2 to 1 very fair, i actually think +150 more accurately represents their chances and I do think it either a play well and win or my fears come to fruition and they don’t stay within the number in a losing non effort anyways.
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      • SilverTongueFox
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        • 11-23-10
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        #143
        Originally posted by 2daBank


        Still debating vandy, would like to talk to some my brain trust round here if they would get their lazy asses up before I take the plunge on this one and see if I’m missing something or can be talked out of?!
        Riley Neal is back for Vandy at QB this week and he put up some decent numbers early in the year. Vandy has some good players on offense with Vaughn, Lipscomb, Pierce, Pinkney but QB play has been less than consistent. UK D has been good vs the pass however they’ve really not seen any offenses that throw it around the yard. When UK played the Gators Franks was QB. Played UGA in monsoon like weather. Even though they played well against the Vols the UK run D is giving up more that 200 on the ground and that bodes well for a good back like Vaughn.

        We know UK’s game plan. Bowden will touch it 60+ times and run it 20-25 times. The backs will run it another 25 times with only about 10 passes. No secrets here. Not reason to even discuss Vandy pass D bc UK ain’t throwing it. Vandy’s run D is not good. Gave up over 400 yds rushing to Ole Piss and 170 of that was the Ole Piss QB. I think UK will have much success with the ground game which is why I pick them to win.

        With that, I’m looking at this game much like the Iowa/Wisky game a few weeks ago. Everyone saying 10-7 type game. Low total, ground and pound, ball control, field position, special teams type game. Not so fast! I think both teams today have success moving the ball on the ground. Neal back at QB for Vandy at least gives them threat of a passing game. Coaches will take some risk today ie trick plays, going for it on 4th down. UK needs this one then all but guaranteed 6 wins and a bowl game. So give them slight edge. I actually like the Over in this game which gets back to my comparison to Iowa/Wisky game. 27-17 UK. And for you Banker, it’s not a noon kick so another plus for the Over. If you lean under then Vandy plus points way to go.
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        • 2daBank
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          • 01-26-09
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          #144
          Originally posted by SilverTongueFox
          Riley Neal is back for Vandy at QB this week and he put up some decent numbers early in the year. Vandy has some good players on offense with Vaughn, Lipscomb, Pierce, Pinkney but QB play has been less than consistent. UK D has been good vs the pass however they’ve really not seen any offenses that throw it around the yard. When UK played the Gators Franks was QB. Played UGA in monsoon like weather. Even though they played well against the Vols the UK run D is giving up more that 200 on the ground and that bodes well for a good back like Vaughn.

          We know UK’s game plan. Bowden will touch it 60+ times and run it 20-25 times. The backs will run it another 25 times with only about 10 passes. No secrets here. Not reason to even discuss Vandy pass D bc UK ain’t throwing it. Vandy’s run D is not good. Gave up over 400 yds rushing to Ole Piss and 170 of that was the Ole Piss QB. I think UK will have much success with the ground game which is why I pick them to win.

          With that, I’m looking at this game much like the Iowa/Wisky game a few weeks ago. Everyone saying 10-7 type game. Low total, ground and pound, ball control, field position, special teams type game. Not so fast! I think both teams today have success moving the ball on the ground. Neal back at QB for Vandy at least gives them threat of a passing game. Coaches will take some risk today ie trick plays, going for it on 4th down. UK needs this one then all but guaranteed 6 wins and a bowl game. So give them slight edge. I actually like the Over in this game which gets back to my comparison to Iowa/Wisky game. 27-17 UK. If you lean under then Vandy plus points way to go.
          I’m not 100% convinced uk will run all over vandy like ol piss did. It could happen and it a very valid comparison (interestingly enough I played ol piss that game for that reason). Don’t get me wrong they will move it at times and end of the day prob rush for a couple bills but i also think they get behind the chains enough times with no real answer for how to pick up a 3rd and long. Plus 200 rushing yards not that great with no passing tacked on, lol. Just feels like a spot all it really take is vandy really wanting a win to slow down that offense cause there not a lot to it what I watched last week.

          Another dog I’ve started growing fondness for maybe even more so than vandy is ku catching 17. Hadn’t noticed it all week but read someone I respect who had made a great case for them being able to put up lot of points vs okie lite which makes 17 a very tough cover.
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          • SilverTongueFox
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            • 11-23-10
            • 2338

            #145
            Originally posted by 2daBank

            Another dog I’ve started growing fondness for maybe even more so than vandy is ku catching 17. Hadn’t noticed it all week but read someone I respect who had made a great case for them being able to put up lot of points vs okie lite which makes 17 a very tough cover.
            Skipped right over that one for some reason. No idea! KU been a good story this season and I’m rooting for Les Miles. Just realizing he’s playing his old team. I’m forgot he coached Okie St before leaving for LSU.

            What do you think about the under 73 Hawaii v UNLV game. That’s a 1pm kick local time. Tough start time. Maybe 1st half under better play. Thoughts?
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            • 2daBank
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              • 01-26-09
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              #146
              Originally posted by SilverTongueFox
              Skipped right over that one for some reason. No idea! KU been a good story this season and I’m rooting for Les Miles. Just realizing he’s playing his old team. I’m forgot he coached Okie St before leaving for LSU.

              What do you think about the under 73 Hawaii v UNLV game. That’s a 1pm kick local time. Tough start time. Maybe 1st half under better play. Thoughts?
              I skipped over to, only noticed cause read someone else i like make a great case for them and when I look it very hard to argue. I see very little reason ku can’t push 30+ points. Obviously okie lite gonna score a lot but it might take 50 or more to cover 17 and that seems excessive! Ku doesn’t turn it over much either and cowboys tend to which should help keep this fairly close.

              I thought the Hawaii number was high when I looked, actually thought they really startled jacking them up last week but they still found a way over. They just not a team I think I can play under even when it appears to be right side cause I’ve seen far too many smart guys lose bets they shoulda cashed going this route. If you made me play it yea under have to be it, luckily there plenty other games so no thanks on that potential nightmare where 40+ points go up last 3 min of half or game. Lol
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              • fecgp40
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                • 02-01-11
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                #147
                Originally posted by 2daBank
                Many have disagreed with the degree of likeableness, many others think those ppl idiots . Nobody has ever argued my uniqueness or that love it or hate it not a act.

                I’m really not all that pumped about this card, how bout you? I’m happy with the 4-5 games I’ve played or am going to but just don’t see nearly as many that strike me as strong compared to previous few weeks. From 6 in evening on I don’t see a whole lot of anything to get real excited bout.

                Debating if I can get my ville money back from that shit show they put on last week? Don’t think I’ve played them as a fav this year tho, lol. Ncst seems to be trending way way down and think I trust saterfield to get them to respond.
                I think Ville gets you your money back today.
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                • 2daBank
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                  • 01-26-09
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                  #148
                  Originally posted by fecgp40
                  I think Ville gets you your money back today.
                  Me too but since it not till evening and I have very few leans even for the night Games figure i would wait and see how much I feel like risking. Obviously kinda depends how it goes up to then. lol
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                  • fecgp40
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by shocka1212
                    too big of a number for them to cover
                    Why don't you feel KSU can cover this at home? I realize they're not an offensive powerhouse, but they crushed Kansas (who I played and lost obviously) who played a very close game with WVU. KSU has Texas Tech next so not like they will be looking ahead. Tech destroyed WVU after losing to Kansas by 3.
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                    • U2.5
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                      • 02-21-14
                      • 1953

                      #150
                      I looked at bama but the line keeps dropping which probably means tua isn't 100%. I aint betting on a backup to cover 18 points.
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                      • 2daBank
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                        • 01-26-09
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                        #151
                        Originally posted by U2.5
                        I looked at bama but the line keeps dropping which probably means tua isn't 100%. I aint betting on a backup to cover 18 points.
                        He obviously not 100% i dunno why they play him but if they do I’d think they get up, play d, get him out of there, I realize this isn’t typical bama with way they score and give up points but a week after losing a game they scored plenty I strongly suspect defensive effort is where they look to right the ship, can’t imagine saban worried bout his offense he needs him embarrassed defense to figure things out and historically off a loss the under way stronger than bama taking out revenge and covering. Hence under for me,
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                        • irishstuey
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                          • 08-22-08
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                          #152
                          You still taking Navy at 7? Last week was first time I played ND all year and made me some good money. Injuries are mounting up, but back ups like Lugg at OT, Ade and Jamir Jones at DE are still very good players. Drew White came outta nowhere last year cause staff likes him at LB vs Navy. I thought it was going to be 10 points, but I'm showing 7 right now and I'm trying to find a reason to not take it. Thoughts?
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                          • 2daBank
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                            • 01-26-09
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                            #153
                            Originally posted by irishstuey
                            You still taking Navy at 7? Last week was first time I played ND all year and made me some good money. Injuries are mounting up, but back ups like Lugg at OT, Ade and Jamir Jones at DE are still very good players. Drew White came outta nowhere last year cause staff likes him at LB vs Navy. I thought it was going to be 10 points, but I'm showing 7 right now and I'm trying to find a reason to not take it. Thoughts?
                            I played them at +7.5 but In fairness I’ll post what I wrote about it talking with someone else this morning and let you decide what to do with it.

                            Im on navy but feel like we kinda getting short changed on this line which annoys me. I prefer thinking I’m catching too many or too much plus on my plays, whether it ever really true i dunno but it feels good! Lol.

                            Afraid I caved and played this despite fact I thought it was gonna be and prob should be little higher. Not that navy can’t cover or win outright, I’m hoping line being short imo a bit of a tell since I’ve had to invent reasons to go against my normal way of doing things here cause I been drooling over this play for weeks and couldn’t get off when came lower than i expected!
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                            • fecgp40
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                              #154
                              Originally posted by 2daBank
                              Me too but since it not till evening and I have very few leans even for the night Games figure i would wait and see how much I feel like risking. Obviously kinda depends how it goes up to then. lol
                              Wyoming is the only game I have officially played this far. Looking seriously at Kansas St, Michigan, Minnesota, Baylor, Wisconsin so far. Just really now sitting down and getting into it.
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                              • fecgp40
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                                #155
                                Originally posted by asiagambler
                                Chase Garbers is expected back for California
                                How do you read this game AG?
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                                • U2.5
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                                  • 02-21-14
                                  • 1953

                                  #156
                                  im parlaying under in bama game with under in minnesota vs iowa. so U60 bama miss st game with U 44.5 iowa vs minnesota.
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                                  • fecgp40
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                                    #157
                                    Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                    You may be crazy, but you’re smart & likable in your own custom banker way. (no homo)
                                    LMAO. Bankers the man!! So is everyone else in this thread really. Saturdays are the best.
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                                    • fecgp40
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                                      #158
                                      Originally posted by 2daBank
                                      Can another big10 team everyone thinks is catching too many points cover this week? Step on up hoosers. Lol. No clue why the Fukk psu laying 14.5 in this game? Had they whipped minny last week I’d still be here saying I don’t think they a real playoff team! Lol. No recency bias here, just a feeling they were never as good as rank they reached and getting too much respect here playing a offense I think will have success moving the ball on them thru the air where you have to against psu.

                                      Wanna play them but always have doubts when I can’t figure out why anyone would lay it/understand other side and appears most agree. .feel like I’m missing something, hoosers have had a very easy go of it schedule wise outside osu.
                                      We had the same doubts about Illinois vs. Sparty and we all know how that turned out. I agree the line makes no sense but I'm taking Indiana here. If it loses, so be it..
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                                      • shocka1212
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                                        #159
                                        haven't read every single post in here so I apologize, but who do you guys like getting points more at home this week. Baylor or Cal?
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                                        • U2.5
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                                          #160
                                          Originally posted by shocka1212
                                          haven't read every single post in here so I apologize, but who do you guys like getting points more at home this week. Baylor or Cal?
                                          I'm scared off that game. I am not sold on Baylor but Oklahoma is inconsistent so you never know what you're going to get with them.
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                                          • 2daBank
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                                            #161
                                            Originally posted by fecgp40
                                            We had the same doubts about Illinois vs. Sparty and we all know how that turned out. I agree the line makes no sense but I'm taking Indiana here. If it loses, so be it..
                                            There a reason I don’t like playing them cause I think the percentages of times they cash are lower.
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                                            • fecgp40
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                                              #162
                                              Originally posted by shocka1212
                                              haven't read every single post in here so I apologize, but who do you guys like getting points more at home this week. Baylor or Cal?
                                              I like Baylor more. Huge game for that program and the atmosphere will be electric. Their defense should be able to keep them in it and while Baylor's offense worries me some, OU's D is obviously nothing special.

                                              I understand Cal gets their QB back today but USC riding momentum off win over ASU. Can Cal cover those talented USC wide receivers? Will their offense be able to score enough?
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                                              • fecgp40
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                                                #163
                                                Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                There a reason I don’t like playing them cause I think the percentages of times they cash are lower.
                                                Oh I understand completely where you're coming from Bank. I just can't see myself passing on this one.
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                                                • shocka1212
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                                                  #164
                                                  laying off Navy... I hate public dogs. kinda feel like laying off Baylor.. they're getting too many points for my liking if that makes sense... I am however taking Louisville to beat the dogshit out of the Wolfpack, LSU to cover and the over in the Umass game.
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                                                  • fecgp40
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                                                    #165
                                                    Originally posted by shocka1212
                                                    laying off Navy... I hate public dogs. kinda feel like laying off Baylor.. they're getting too many points for my liking if that makes sense... I am however taking Louisville to beat the dogshit out of the Wolfpack, LSU to cover and the over in the Umass game.
                                                    Love Louisville today. NCST not getting up off the mat after last weekend's beatdown. Ville just straight up better by far imo. Navy makes me nervous. I probably won't play that one. UMass/NW over makes sense. Worst FBS team against possibly the worst FBS offense. Screams over!!! GL Shocka.
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                                                    • Renegades
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                                                      #166
                                                      Why you like umass over? Northwestern plays incredibly slow and I doubt umass scores more than 7-10 pts
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                                                      • shocka1212
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                                                        #167
                                                        Originally posted by Renegades
                                                        Why you like umass over? Northwestern plays incredibly slow and I doubt umass scores more than 7-10 pts
                                                        umass has given up 56 in their last 4.. with the line being 41 against a team like northwestern, that pretty much tells me everything I need to know here....
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                                                        • shocka1212
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                                                          #168
                                                          I do like Texas tech getting 3
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                                                          • Renegades
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                                                            #169
                                                            I dont know. This game looks like 45-7, 42-7 type game
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                                                            • fecgp40
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                                                              #170
                                                              Originally posted by shocka1212
                                                              I do like Texas tech getting 3
                                                              3.5 at 5dimes right now. This does look pretty good. Not much discussion about this game in this thread yet.
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                                                              • Renegades
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                                                                #171
                                                                Fitzgerald doesnt drop the hammer either. He’ll call off the dogs in the 4th qtr with a big lead. Its just his nature. He’s not like James Franklin who is throwing with 3 mins to go and a 35 pt lead
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                                                                • fecgp40
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                                                                  #172
                                                                  Anyone else like Tulane?
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                                                                  • shocka1212
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                                                                    #173
                                                                    Originally posted by fecgp40
                                                                    Anyone else like Tulane?
                                                                    they should smoke temple here but the 5 point spread scared me off. should've been 7 atleast so I'm laying off due to the stink
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                                                                    • fecgp40
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                                                                      #174
                                                                      Originally posted by shocka1212
                                                                      they should smoke temple here but the 5 point spread scared me off. should've been 7 atleast so I'm laying off due to the stink
                                                                      Gotcha. Usually not a fan of road chalk either but this one stood out to me.
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                                                                      • BeatTheJerk
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                                                                        #175
                                                                        Originally posted by fecgp40
                                                                        LMAO. Bankers the man!! So is everyone else in this thread really. Saturdays are the best.
                                                                        To good vibes & winners ...
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