Documentary about Professional Blackjack Players

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  • PromiseLand
    SBR MVP
    • 08-30-12
    • 2464

    #1
    Documentary about Professional Blackjack Players
    Stumbled across this on Amazon prime the other day. Pretty interesting doc that focuses on this guy who goes on the road and hits up different casinos all across the country.

  • VeggieDog
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 02-21-09
    • 7214

    #2
    I've watched that. Pretty good. I was rooting for him.
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    • cincinnatikid513
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 11-23-17
      • 45360

      #3
      i'll check it out hope he wins
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      • RudyRuetigger
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 08-24-10
        • 65084

        #4
        i dont have enough money to have amazon prime

        did he win
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        • cincinnatikid513
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 11-23-17
          • 45360

          #5
          Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
          i dont have enough money to have amazon prime

          did he win
          u can get a free trial and then cancel after a few days
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          • gauchojake
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 09-17-10
            • 34120

            #6
            Like many posters at SBR it's been added to the watchlist
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            • VeggieDog
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              • 02-21-09
              • 7214

              #7
              Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
              i dont have enough money to have amazon prime

              did he win
              Amazon Prime is great. 1 and 2 day free shipping. Great shows and movies. I got Prime so I could watch the show, Bosch. I've read all the books and wasn't disappointed with the show.
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              • Big Bear
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 11-01-11
                • 43253

                #8
                Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                u can get a free trial and then cancel after a few days
                but then if you forget to cancel you are fukked

                no thanks

                anybody got a link to a bootleg version?

                I’m trying to watch
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                • RudyRuetigger
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 08-24-10
                  • 65084

                  #9
                  Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                  u can get a free trial and then cancel after a few days
                  ive used those up
                  Originally posted by VeggieDog
                  Amazon Prime is great. 1 and 2 day free shipping. Great shows and movies. I got Prime so I could watch the show, Bosch. I've read all the books and wasn't disappointed with the show.
                  1 and 2 day free shipping on overpriced garbage


                  i can find any price better than amazon elsewhere with free shipping and no subscription


                  if you want it for the videos/music...ok

                  but you are kidding yourself if you think amazon is cheap when it comes to prices
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                  • cincinnatikid513
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 11-23-17
                    • 45360

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Big Bear
                    but then if you forget to cancel you are fukked

                    no thanks

                    anybody got a link to a bootleg version?

                    I’m trying to watch
                    yah so bad 12 bucks a month or 120 for the year not too bad
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                    • Big Bear
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 11-01-11
                      • 43253

                      #11
                      Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                      yah so bad 12 bucks a month or 120 for the year not too bad
                      lol
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                      • jjgold
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-20-05
                        • 388179

                        #12
                        One guy out of 45 million
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                        • sourtwist
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                          • 11-10-12
                          • 9364

                          #13
                          Love the game

                          Can't seem to win anymore
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                          • stevek173
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                            • 03-29-08
                            • 27598

                            #14
                            You can set Prime to cancel automatically after 30 days

                            Blackjack is a sucker's game if you can't count
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                            • PaperTrail07
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 08-29-08
                              • 20423

                              #15
                              Going to watch it for sure---interesting.....anyone who beats the game consistently gets looked at lol......BJ is THE WORST......
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                              • ronald
                                SBR MVP
                                • 10-31-05
                                • 4921

                                #16
                                Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                Going to watch it for sure---interesting.....anyone who beats the game consistently gets looked at lol......BJ is THE WORST......
                                Counting is easy.

                                The skill lies in avoiding detection.
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                                • stevek173
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                                  • 03-29-08
                                  • 27598

                                  #17
                                  I was out west with a couple of friends that got caught in a casino counting, I told them not to juice up the bets so much but they got greedy

                                  Both got their heads blow off via shotgun on site, pit boss said he was making an example out of them

                                  Scary stuff
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                                  • PaperTrail07
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                                    • 08-29-08
                                    • 20423

                                    #18
                                    I guess....wont be a problem for me.....only way i've seen BJ beat is a dealer helping lol
                                    Originally posted by ronald
                                    Counting is easy.

                                    The skill lies in avoiding detection.
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                                    • Ph q all
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 09-18-17
                                      • 705

                                      #19
                                      It really isn't anything new. Guy travels around in a motorhome playing blackjack.
                                      Then he changes his appearance by growing a beard, dressing as a cowboy, cutting his hair, all in order to fool casinos which has been tried about 4 gazillion times... Which is exactly why they now have face recognition techniques and can spot fools like this. Oh yeah I forgot he really 'kills" them when he finds a dealer who inadvertently exposes every hole card as the casinos are scratching their heads trying to figure out how he was winning. YEAH RIGHT....
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                                      • BeatTheJerk
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                                        • 08-19-07
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Ph q all
                                        It really isn't anything new. Guy travels around in a motorhome playing blackjack.
                                        Then he changes his appearance by growing a beard, dressing as a cowboy, cutting his hair, all in order to fool casinos which has been tried about 4 gazillion times... Which is exactly why they now have face recognition techniques and can spot fools like this. Oh yeah I forgot he really 'kills" them when he finds a dealer who inadvertently exposes every hole card as the casinos are scratching their heads trying to figure out how he was winning. YEAH RIGHT....
                                        Someone sounds jelly as fuk
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                                        • dlowilly
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                                          • 11-09-16
                                          • 13862

                                          #21
                                          Hasn't been beatable for awhile

                                          Even if you are a savant and could eek out a profit it isn't worth the painful cuts and infections on your hands and fingers from the dealers throwing cards at them because you can't tip them AND stay profitable.
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                                          • PaperTrail07
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                                            • 08-29-08
                                            • 20423

                                            #22
                                            Ive always thought of it like this.....crap best %....they KNOW dealers make mistakes paying and picking up losers and that dealer can have friends......so say 3% loss to mistakes...THEY STILLL CRUSH LOL......same with BJ.......
                                            Originally posted by dlowilly
                                            Hasn't been beatable for awhile

                                            Even if you are a savant and could eek out a profit it isn't worth the painful cuts and infections on your hands and fingers from the dealers throwing cards at them because you can't tip them AND stay profitable.
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                                            • Ph q all
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                                              • 09-18-17
                                              • 705

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                              Someone sounds jelly as fuk
                                              Jelly explains it all as I'm guessing your 15. I guess it's good to have some young bloods on here who know nothing about what blackjack card counting is ike.
                                              If you haven't heard the same old story many times over regarding black jack and card counting then go ahead and waste an hour and a 1/2 and watch it.
                                              But namjoon.
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                                              • jjgold
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 07-20-05
                                                • 388179

                                                #24
                                                IT CAN BE YOU!!!

                                                I would use all your money and try it out
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                                                • cincinnatikid513
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 11-23-17
                                                  • 45360

                                                  #25
                                                  this guy wins every time
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                                                  • JIBBBY
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 12-10-09
                                                    • 83686

                                                    #26
                                                    Can learn the game of 21 blackjack which isn't brain science, just learn when to double down, when to hit and not to hit after the cards are delt..

                                                    Single deck play is the only way to go if you can count cards without being noticed.. Could get an angle then. Other then that's it's just you against the dealer and luck usually has to come into play then..

                                                    JUST THAT SIMPLE!! End thread..
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                                                    • ronald
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                                                      • 10-31-05
                                                      • 4921

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                      Can learn the game of 21 blackjack which isn't brain science, just learn when to double down, when to hit and not to hit after the cards are delt..

                                                      Single deck play is the only way to go if you can count cards without being noticed.. Could get an angle then. Other then that's it's just you against the dealer and luck usually has to come into play then..

                                                      JUST THAT SIMPLE!! End thread..
                                                      In fact, the opposite is true.
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                                                      • Big Bear
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                                                        • 11-01-11
                                                        • 43253

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by ronald
                                                        Counting is easy.

                                                        The skill lies in avoiding detection.
                                                        Ronald I dont appreciate you calling me out yesterday
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                                                        • JIBBBY
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 12-10-09
                                                          • 83686

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by ronald
                                                          In fact, the opposite is true.
                                                          How is that so Ronny and proven show me the light? I've played BJ for decades in Vegas when I use go all the time and I do know the game well.

                                                          The only other thing I tried to look out for is tables that are jumping which I liked to jump in and REALLY try to avoid the ones that are dead with the Asian dealers dealing the cards..

                                                          Kinda like crap tables when jumping in, always wanna jump into the ones that are hot and energized.. Big stacks showing and gamblers look happy and winning...


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                                                          • DrunkHorseplayer
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                                                            • 05-15-10
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                                            Someone sounds jelly as fuk
                                                            Not at all. I've played thousands of hands of BJ and not once have I seen a dealer expose a hole card; anyone who makes such a claim is probably lying.
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                                                            • ronald
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 10-31-05
                                                              • 4921

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                              How is that so Ronny and proven show me the light? I've played BJ for decades in Vegas when I use go all the time and I do know the game well.

                                                              The only other thing I tried to look out for is tables that are jumping which I liked to jump in and REALLY try to avoid the ones that are dead with the Asian dealers dealing the cards..

                                                              Kinda like crap tables when jumping in, always wanna jump into the ones that are hot and energized.. Big stacks showing and gamblers look happy and winning...


                                                              If you believe in "hot and energized" and that Asians somehow impact your EV, then I'm afraid no amount of light will help you.
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                                                              • JIBBBY
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 12-10-09
                                                                • 83686

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by ronald
                                                                If you believe in "hot and energized" and that Asians somehow impact your EV, then I'm afraid no amount of light will help you.
                                                                I believe in Player Prop Play that's where I make my pay dirt Ronny..

                                                                I don't think you could help me with Black Jack play because it's a simple game.. No angles to be had.. Find a weak dealer and play single decks on a full table of play.. Can see the cards being laid down as the deck thins and then work the averages.. Only angle I see..
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                                                                • milwaukee mike
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                                                                  • 08-22-07
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                  I believe in Player Prop Play that's where I make my pay dirt Ronny..

                                                                  I don't think you could help me with Black Jack play because it's a simple game.. No angles to be had.. Find a weak dealer and play single decks on a full table of play.. Can see the cards being laid down as the deck thins and then work the averages.. Only angle I see..
                                                                  the "angle" is counting cards to the point where you often have a 5-8% advantage, then betting more when you have a big advantage than you bet when you are at a disadvantage

                                                                  multiple decks are better because you have more play, at a full table with a single deck you're never gonna get a big enough advantage, that's only 1 hand per shoe that you can jam a big bet on
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                                                                  • JIBBBY
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 12-10-09
                                                                    • 83686

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                                                    the "angle" is counting cards to the point where you often have a 5-8% advantage, then betting more when you have a big advantage than you bet when you are at a disadvantage

                                                                    multiple decks are better because you have more play, at a full table with a single deck you're never gonna get a big enough advantage, that's only 1 hand per shoe that you can jam a big bet on
                                                                    Not if you are sitting at the end of the table and can see what is being laid down before your cards come.. Come on people!!! It's not rocket science.. I'm not a black jack wiz either but I always held my own at the tables back in the day. I know whats up.. I'm pretty good at math too.

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                                                                    • RangeFinder
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                                                                      • 10-27-16
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Counting cards has been obsolete now for some 20 years at least. Deck penetration is the reason. They simply do not deal enough of the deck(s) to make card counting effective. Casino's could care less if you count cards. In fact, knock yourself out, you'll never win long term

                                                                      If you're cutting 10's and aces
                                                                      , that doesn't work anymore either, they simply don't show the cut card anymore.

                                                                      Bottom line is casino's are not ever going to give the player an edge. If a player finds one it will eventually be taken away.
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