Zion Williamson NBA Predictions

[stevenash]

Is that any different from any player coming out of college? You may be right though, we'll see.

Not really any different, but he's going to be playing pivot, in the paint, and the NBA is loaded with bruising bigs.
I hope Zion knows the NBA is not the ACC, he's going to be shoved a lot, not shoving a lot like he did when he was at Duke.

[d2bets]

Not really any different, but he's going to be playing pivot, in the paint, and the NBA is loaded with bruising bigs.
I hope Zion knows the NBA is not the ACC, he's going to be shoved a lot, not shoving a lot like he did when he was at Duke.

He looks built to handle it, but we'll see. He certainly has a chance to make the NBA more exciting.

[stevenash]

He looks built to handle it, but we'll see. He certainly has a chance to make the NBA more exciting.

Yes he does.
ESPN has been ramming Zion down my throat for 2 weeks now and I make it a point to stay away from ESPN but sometimes you have to check in.

[seaborneq]

Your statement was "6'6" PF don't dominate the NBA. Never have. Never will." And was immediately proven wrong.

Larry Johnson was 6'6 (maybe 6'6.5) and had some dominant seasons before his back gave out. Ben Wallace, listed at 6'9, has admitted he's really only 6'7, and was one of the most dominant defensive players of all-time. Same with Dennis Rodman (what's with the Pistons lying about player heights). Paul Millsap is another one, who's true height is closer to 6'6-6'7 and he had some great seasons too.

Obviously Zion is a completely different type of player than Rodman & Wallace, but dismissing him entirely because his height is completely asinine.

LJ was a perimeter player and 3 point shooter in his later years, not dominant in the paint his entire career, Big Ben was a force on ONE end of the court, and ALL that Dennis Rodman did was rebound, Paul Millsap is just a decent player, but none of those players dominated the NBA on both ends of the court. If that is all that you want out of Zion Williamson then that is just being a good player, not dominant at all. I'm sure Zion Williamson would bet on himself too if all he has to do is be as good as Paul Millsaps.

[d2bets]

LJ was a perimeter player and 3 point shooter in his later years, not dominant in the paint his entire career, Big Ben was a force on ONE end of the court, and ALL that Dennis Rodman did was rebound, Paul Millsap is just a decent player, but none of those players dominated the NBA on both ends of the court. If that is all that you want out of Zion Williamson then that is just being a good player, not dominant at all. I'm sure Zion Williamson would bet on himself too if all he has to do is be as good as Paul Millsaps.

Where do you put Charles Barkley among the all-time greats?

[seaborneq]

Where do you put Charles Barkley among the all-time greats?

Somewhere between 25 and 30.

[d2bets]

Somewhere between 25 and 30.

More like 15 to 20.

But anyway, how do you think Zion will compare to Barkley?

[seaborneq]

Where do you put Charles Barkley among the all-time greats?

Amongst SF and PF I would put Barkley behind Karl Malone, Tim Duncan, Larry Bird, LBJ, Doctor J, KD, Elvin Hayes, Elgin Baylor, but at least as good as KG, McHale, Pippen, Worthy, Dirk, and Dominique

[seaborneq]

More like 15 to 20.

But anyway, how do you think Zion will compare to Barkley?

Barkley outhustled a lot of players he went against and had guard ball handling skills. I don't think Zion will outhustle a lot of players and will not handle the ball on the break after a rebound. I don't think he will be a double digit rebounder nor will he have a go to half court move. But he will get lots of dunks and highlights. I just don't think or see him being a dominant player like most do. The NBA is about length not girth, even guards have 7 foot wingspans, I just don't think a short strong guy can dominate the NBA without guard ball handling skills, which I don't think Zion has.

[stevenash]

Amongst SF and PF I would put Barkley behind Karl Malone, Tim Duncan, Larry Bird, LBJ, Doctor J, KD, Elvin Hayes, Elgin Baylor, but at least as good as KG, McHale, Pippen, Worthy, Dirk, and Dominique

I think Barkley was a top five power forward of all time behind Duncan, and Dirk.

3-8 is a toss up.
You got Bark, Malone, Petit, Hayes, McHale, Garnett, etc.

Most underrated?
Buck Williams

[DOM-Ganador]

I think Barkley was a top five power forward of all time behind Duncan, and Dirk.

3-8 is a toss up.
You got Bark, Malone, Petit, Hayes, McHale, Garnett, etc.

Most underrated?
Buck Williams

Chris Ford, as an assistant to K.C. Jones circa 1983, was on the road with the team and Auburn was playing locally.
He went. He saw. He reported next morning at breakfast to LJB and KMc…." I just saw the guy who is going to torture you two for the next decade"

The two most amazing players who did shit at their height that absolutely should never have happened:
Magic, 6'9 PG. Barkley 6' 4 1/2 PF.

[stevenash]

^
Good stuff there.

[rm18]

Chris Ford, as an assistant to K.C. Jones circa 1983, was on the road with the team and Auburn was playing locally.
He went. He saw. He reported next morning at breakfast to LJB and KMc…." I just saw the guy who is going to torture you two for the next decade"

The two most amazing players who did shit at their height that absolutely should never have happened:
Magic, 6'9 PG. Barkley 6' 4 1/2 PF.

You think Magic was 4.5 inches taller than Barkley? About 2.

[BeatTheJerk]

Face of the league in 5 years. He will eventually cut weight & form an outside presence, then will be unstoppable.

[jtoler]

You think Magic was 4.5 inches taller than Barkley? About 2.

yea although people always said he's shorter for whatever reason he's really 6'6 and never looked 6'4 to me unless one thinks mj is 6'4. long arms and a quick leaper allowed him to play bigger than 6'6

[dj_destroyer]

Zion autographed rookie cards going for $5k+

[jjgold]

He is making nba bets look silly

He is good

[stevenash]

Face of the league in 5 years.

And just like LeBron in five years I'll be uttering these words but instead of LeBron I just inserted Zion.

"If I hear just one more report/story about Zion I am first going to puncture my ear drums with a bic pen than immediately following that I'm going to bludgeon my temple in with a spade shovel"

Last week, Thursday or Friday I believe Sports Center's lead story was Zion and his exhibition game results.
Really? Now I studied some mass media and communications in school so I know little about this, your lead story is the MLB playoffs, if you want to lead with the Thursday night Giants/Pats game OK I think I can overlook that, but if I am programming manager at any large sports media outlet the most important story in a playoff series in any major sport, than follow that up with a regular season NFL game, than the WNBA finals.. At the bottom of the hour or even after the bottom of the hour if you want to promote your new boy toy Zion, have at it.
But to lead with Zion and his exhibition game output is ludicrous, no, it's beyond ludicrous.

No wonder ESPN's viewership is shrinking like my rooster right after an ice bath.
Why would they do something so unprofessional? *Your pal Nasher raised his hand* "I know, I know, pick me teacher, I can answer"
*teacher to your pal Nasher* "OK Stevie, what is your answer?"
*Nasher to teacher* Could it be ESPN has like a boatload of money tied up in the NBA?"
*Teacher to your pal Nasher* "Very good Stevie, here's a gold star, paste in on your forehead"

[TheMoneyShot]

Let's give Zion 1 year at least. Judge him on games played. If he misses like 10-15 games... then he's a dud. If he plays 81 or 82... give him a pass.

[CJ]

LJ was a perimeter player and 3 point shooter in his later years, not dominant in the paint his entire career, Big Ben was a force on ONE end of the court, and ALL that Dennis Rodman did was rebound, Paul Millsap is just a decent player, but none of those players dominated the NBA on both ends of the court. If that is all that you want out of Zion Williamson then that is just being a good player, not dominant at all. I'm sure Zion Williamson would bet on himself too if all he has to do is be as good as Paul Millsaps.

Man, if you knew how to read, that'd be awesome. But I guess to reach your level of ignorance, some illiteracy has to be involved.

Let's start with what I said about Larry Johnson - "Larry Johnson was 6'6 (maybe 6'6.5) and had some dominant seasons before his back gave out. "

Your response was - "not dominant in the paint his entire career" well no shit, isn't that what I just said?

Furthermore (and I'm probably wasting my time correcting someone so clueless), Rodman did a hell of a lot more than "just grab rebounds" he was one of the most elite defenders to ever play the game. He also averaged a pretty effortless 10+ points a game early in his career, but his teams never needed him to score. To suggest that Rodman didn't impact games on both ends of the court, is just plain asinine.

Then you go and one-up yourself by ranking Barkley 25-30... there's literally no bottom to the well of stupidity you drink from. Congrats, I'm done.

[asiagambler]

Rodman was the Defensive Player of the Year TWICE. And that was in an era where they almost exclusively gave it to centers

[IBetYou]

I predict he undergoes knee surgery and misses half the season.

[sosawestbrook]

I predict he undergoes knee surgery and misses half the season.

my soul hurts but I have to agree. I don't know when it will happen but I believe it is inevitable. nobody is built to have that much explosion at that size. I just hope it doesn't hurt his chances to be a player in this league for at least a decade. the NBA needs him.

[DOM_Toretto]

Zion is BANGED UP already

I have tickets in for Rookie of the Year for Ja Morant +450, RJ Barrett +600, Rui Hachimura +2500

[shadymcgrady]

Ja slams is a go, Memphis is going to push the tempo and hand him the keys from the get go

[play4win]

Zion autographed rookie cards going for $5k+

where can you find them, it's very long time ago i used to collect that shit

[TheMoneyShot]

I retract my original post lol

[Redlily5150]

I retract my original post lol

I agree if he misses 10-15 games he’s a dud. Guy must be driven as hell tho. His mom was at his game at Lou when duke came back from 23 in 10 minutes. He might not survive is best way to put it. Could open up a few car dealerships possibly.

[MinnesotaFats]

Guy already let his teammates down and sunk the franchise

He's Jamarcus Russell w a basketball

Rookie contract, nothing more, unless he can get under 260 lbs- and that ain't happening.

[stevenash]

I'm waiting for ESPN to report how many times Zion farted this morning.

[seaborneq]

Man, if you knew how to read, that'd be awesome. But I guess to reach your level of ignorance, some illiteracy has to be involved.

Let's start with what I said about Larry Johnson - "Larry Johnson was 6'6 (maybe 6'6.5) and had some dominant seasons before his back gave out. "

Your response was - "not dominant in the paint his entire career" well no shit, isn't that what I just said?

Furthermore (and I'm probably wasting my time correcting someone so clueless), Rodman did a hell of a lot more than "just grab rebounds" he was one of the most elite defenders to ever play the game. He also averaged a pretty effortless 10+ points a game early in his career, but his teams never needed him to score. To suggest that Rodman didn't impact games on both ends of the court, is just plain asinine.

Then you go and one-up yourself by ranking Barkley 25-30... there's literally no bottom to the well of stupidity you drink from. Congrats, I'm done.

I hope you are right about Zion and he is great. Greater than ALL the Hall of Famers that you are hanging your hat on.

[Goat Milk]

Guy already let his teammates down and sunk the franchise

He's Jamarcus Russell w a basketball

Rookie contract, nothing more, unless he can get under 260 lbs- and that ain't happening.

Damn you're gonna look pretty foolish in a few years

[jjgold]

Injuries killing sports
Guys over training the reason

[spro23]

Heavy guys dont stay healthy long. Too much weight on joints and knees.

Zion weighs Too much but moves quickly so it shreads his knees. Same with demarcus cousins

[Goat Milk]

Heavy guys dont stay healthy long. Too much weight on joints and knees.

Zion weighs Too much but moves quickly so it shreads his knees. Same with demarcus cousins

Lebron? Weighed 275 in his prime in Miami.