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  • tacomax
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    • 08-10-05
    • 9619

    #1
    Halal
    Wouldn't it be awful to be something Halal? Just imagine what it would be like to be happily living your life then suddenly having the finger pointed at you. Your card gets marked, your throat is slit and you are left a wreck - slowly dying a death while others watch on celebrating and then feasting on you.

    Halal (حلال, ḥalāl, Halaal) is an Arabic term designating any object or an action which is permissible to use or engage in, according to Islamic law. It is the opposite of haraam. The term is widely used to designate food seen as permissible according to Islamic law (Sharia) - ( (الشريعة الإسلامية). It is estimated that 70% of Muslims worldwide follow halal food standards and that the global halal market is currently a $580 (U.S.) billion industry.

    The ritual method of slaughter as practiced in Islam and Judaism has been decried as inhumane by some animal welfare organisations in the UK who have stated that it "causes severe suffering to animals."

    However, in 1978, a study incorporating EEG (electroencephalograph) with electrodes surgically implanted on the skull of 17 sheep and 15 calves, and conducted by Wilhelm Schulze et al. at the University of Veterinary Medicine in Germany concluded that "the slaughter in the form of a ritual cut is, if carried out properly, painless in sheep and calves according to EEG recordings and the missing defensive actions" (of the animals) and that "For sheep, there were in part severe reactions both in bloodletting cut and the pain stimuli" when Captive Bolt Stunning (CBS) was used. This study is cited by the German Constitutional Court in its permitting of dhabiha slaughtering.

    In 2003, an independent advisory group - the Farm Animal Welfare Council (FAWC) - concluded that the way halal and Kosher meat is produced causes severe suffering to animals and should be banned immediately. FAWC argued that cattle required up to two minutes to bleed to death when such means are employed. The Chairperson of FAWC at the time, Judy MacArthur Clark, added, "this is a major incision into the animal and to say that it doesn't suffer is quite ridiculous."

    Halal and kosher butchers deny their method of killing animals is cruel and expressed anger over the FAWC recommendation.

    Majid Katme of the Muslim Council of Britain also disagreed, stating that "it's a sudden and quick haemorrhage. A quick loss of blood pressure and the brain is instantaneously starved of blood and there is no time to start feeling any pain."
    In April 2008, the Food and Farming minister in the UK, Lord Rooker, stated that Halal and kosher meat should be labelled when it is put on sale, so that the public can decide whether or not they want to buy food from animals that have bled to death. He was quoted as saying, "I object to the method of slaughter ... my choice as a customer is that I would want to buy meat that has been looked after and slaughtered in the most humane way possible.". The RSPCA supported Lord Rooker's views.

    For the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations and the Humane Society International, "the animals that are slaughtered according to Kosher and Halal should be securely restrained, particularly the head and neck, before cutting the throat" as "movements (during slaughter) results in a poor cut, bad bleeding, slow loss of consciousness if at all and pain."
    Originally posted by pags11
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    Originally posted by BuddyBear
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    Originally posted by curious
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  • mathdotcom
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    • 03-24-08
    • 11689

    #2


    My local butcher, Claude, provides 100% halal products.
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    • tacomax
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      • 08-10-05
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      #3
      Originally posted by pags11
      SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
      Originally posted by BuddyBear
      I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
      Originally posted by curious
      taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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      • blittydeuce
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        • 06-11-08
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        #4
        poor sicky
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        • pico
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          • 04-05-07
          • 27321

          #5
          jihad
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          • sickler
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            • 06-05-08
            • 15006

            #6
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            • blittydeuce
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              • 06-11-08
              • 5572

              #7
              Mmm...kebab
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              • Nicky Santoro
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                • 04-08-08
                • 16103

                #8
                that's not kebab.. that's definitely shawarma on the left, and shish taouk on the right..


                i think i might even know that restaurant.. i think it's El Basha here in montreal..
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                • bettilimbroke999
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 02-04-08
                  • 13254

                  #9
                  Yes it sucks to be an animal that is slaughtered for food, kinda goes without saying but good point taco
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                  • tacomax
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                    • 08-10-05
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                    Yes it sucks to be an animal that is slaughtered for food, kinda goes without saying but good point taco
                    Yeah, it's bad.

                    And mention Halal on any other gambling site and you get the old timers mentioning "low life" and "scammer". Perhaps a lot of gamblers were involved in a meat deal that went wrong.

                    Nicky - what is your experience of Halal?
                    Originally posted by pags11
                    SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
                    Originally posted by BuddyBear
                    I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
                    Originally posted by curious
                    taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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                    • MJFtheGenius
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                      • 05-31-07
                      • 7257

                      #11
                      You are a fraud
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                      • Mikail
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                        • 07-19-09
                        • 21689

                        #12
                        Halal, Kosher, it's all the same to me.
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                        • tacomax
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                          • 08-10-05
                          • 9619

                          #13
                          Another Halal scam in 2003, this time in Holland. I wonder if this is connected with the offshore Halal scam?

                          The government is clamping down on importers following the discovery of pork-contaminated chicken being sold as halal.

                          Public health minister Melanie Johnson told the Commons formal action had been taken against five Dutch processors by the Dutch authorities.
                          Originally posted by pags11
                          SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
                          Originally posted by BuddyBear
                          I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
                          Originally posted by curious
                          taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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                          • mathdotcom
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                            • 03-24-08
                            • 11689

                            #14
                            Wow someone has nothing better to do

                            And I thought I was bad
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                            • lakerboy
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                              • 04-02-09
                              • 94383

                              #15
                              Originally posted by mathdotcom
                              Wow someone has nothing better to do

                              And I thought I was bad

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                              • pavyracer
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 04-12-07
                                • 82907

                                #16
                                I think is spelled Hallal though.
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                                • tacomax
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                                  • 08-10-05
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by mathdotcom
                                  Wow someone has nothing better to do

                                  And I thought I was bad
                                  Don't spend your time on me, pal. JJ's getting ripped in another thread.
                                  Originally posted by pags11
                                  SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
                                  Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                  I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
                                  Originally posted by curious
                                  taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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                                  • tacomax
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                                    • 08-10-05
                                    • 9619

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                                    I think is spelled Hallal though.
                                    No, Halal is the correct spelling of the Arabic term. Maybe you know someone with that surname and you're getting confused?
                                    Originally posted by pags11
                                    SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
                                    Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                    I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
                                    Originally posted by curious
                                    taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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                                    • pavyracer
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 04-12-07
                                      • 82907

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by tacomax
                                      No, Halal is the correct spelling of the Arabic term. Maybe you know someone with that surname and you're getting confused?
                                      I thought it was a Christian church term.

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