Kawhi free agency - I'll be very surprised if he stays in Toronto............

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  • JIBBBY
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 12-10-09
    • 83692

    #246
    He's gonna be a Clipper.. No NBA top players that is black wants to live and play in Canada.. Frozen tundra.. Not in their DNA...


    Last edited by JIBBBY; 06-24-19, 11:48 PM.
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    • xKMACKx
      SBR MVP
      • 11-16-08
      • 1274

      #247
      Originally posted by 2daBank
      But it freaking cold!! If you put it someplace else im sure it be fantastic. I’m sure it great for the 2 months it not freakin cold!!
      Huh? Vancouver and many Canadian cities out west are warmer in the winter than a lot of US cities, including St. Louis.
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      • homie1975
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 12-24-13
        • 15451

        #248
        Originally posted by JIBBBY
        On his way now to LA to talk to Clipper management -

        https://sports.yahoo.com/report-kawh...033102255.html
        Jibbber between this and my OJ thread I believe a bromance is budding lolol
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        • Yulia74
          SBR MVP
          • 08-28-18
          • 1907

          #249
          toronto was in danger of losing Kawhi the day they signed him last summer


          spurs are out, my source says hes going to LAC but hes been wrong about everything
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          • Bluehorseshoe
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 07-13-06
            • 14985

            #250
            .....
            But the Toronto Raptors are based in Canada, which means players – who are often U.S. residents – face different tax liabilities.

            American players in Canada pay tax on their Canadian-sourced income. Most athletes will be subject to the maximum rate of 53.53 percent (combined federal and provincial) on the income earned while playing there. As U.S. residents, they will also be taxed by the IRS on all income, where the top federal rate is 37 percent. They also may owe state taxes based on where they are a resident, and jock taxes for income earned in different cities.
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            • JIBBBY
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 12-10-09
              • 83692

              #251
              KD signing will be interesting since the tendon snap.. Not easy to rebound from!! Who wants to roll the dice and pay the big bucks????
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              • jjgold
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-20-05
                • 388189

                #252
                nobody knows anything
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                • JIBBBY
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 12-10-09
                  • 83692

                  #253
                  ^^^Actually I do know something JJ and let me break it down off the dribble for you boys

                  This is my logic with KD.. You come off a major injury like this you DO NOT want a new start where there is pressure with a new team to deliver.. I think he stays in Golden State next year..

                  I'd bet on that after thinking it over. KD stays put...
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                  • Mike Huntertz
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 08-19-09
                    • 11206

                    #254
                    Originally posted by xKMACKx
                    Huh? Vancouver and many Canadian cities out west are warmer in the winter than a lot of US cities, including St. Louis.
                    The ONLY Canadian city with the population and decent weather in winter is Vancouver.
                    The NBA players didn't want to play there at all.
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                    • Mike Huntertz
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 08-19-09
                      • 11206

                      #255
                      But the Toronto Raptors are based in Canada, which means players – who are often U.S. residents – face different tax liabilities.

                      American players in Canada pay tax on their Canadian-sourced income. Most athletes will be subject to the maximum rate of 53.53 percent (combined federal and provincial) on the income earned while playing there. As U.S. residents, they will also be taxed by the IRS on all income, where the top federal rate is 37 percent. They also may owe state taxes based on where they are a resident, and jock taxes for income earned in different cities.

                      This is double taxation and doesn't exist. If it did no US athletes would play in Canada.
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                      • homie1975
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 12-24-13
                        • 15451

                        #256
                        Originally posted by Yulia74
                        toronto was in danger of losing Kawhi the day they signed him last summer


                        spurs are out, my source says hes going to LAC but hes been wrong about everything
                        Zero Zero Zero chance he plays for Pop again. Zero
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                        • JIBBBY
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 12-10-09
                          • 83692

                          #257
                          Originally posted by Mike Huntertz
                          But the Toronto Raptors are based in Canada, which means players – who are often U.S. residents – face different tax liabilities.

                          American players in Canada pay tax on their Canadian-sourced income. Most athletes will be subject to the maximum rate of 53.53 percent (combined federal and provincial) on the income earned while playing there. As U.S. residents, they will also be taxed by the IRS on all income, where the top federal rate is 37 percent. They also may owe state taxes based on where they are a resident, and jock taxes for income earned in different cities.

                          This is double taxation and doesn't exist. If it did no US athletes would play in Canada.
                          Marketability and endorsement opportunities can off set State taxation in major NBA markets and in the State Taxation States..

                          Something any NBA star should take into consideration when signing on with a new team. It takes a chunk out of your annual income for sure every year... Lebron didn't blink and California has high State taxes though. I know I live here ...

                          There are nine states with no income tax: Alaska, Florida, Nevada, New Hampshire, South Dakota, Texas, Tennessee, Washington and Wyoming.
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                          • Mike Huntertz
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 08-19-09
                            • 11206

                            #258
                            Originally posted by JIBBBY
                            Marketability and endorsement opportunities can off set State taxation in major NBA markets and in the State Taxation States..

                            Something any NBA star should take into consideration when signing on with a new team. It takes a chunk out of your annual income for sure every year... Lebron didn't blink and California has high State taxes though. I know I live here ...

                            https://smartasset.com/taxes/states-with-no-income-tax
                            You don't know what high taxes are until you live where I do.
                            A place called Canada.
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                            • thomorino
                              Restricted User
                              • 06-01-17
                              • 45842

                              #259
                              Look like the final nail in the coffin, ujiri staying, I don't think he'd be staying after getting offers of 10 million a year from other teams if Leoanrd wasn't coming back.
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                              • firekillex
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 09-18-13
                                • 6420

                                #260
                                he literally just won a championship , has a great team around him and is in the East , plus just signed multiple Canadian company deals / has a whole country behind him

                                odds reflect Free Agency pretty well 90%+ of the time

                                kawahi stays in toronto -225 ill go with that
                                KD to nets -125 not as huge odds but ill take that slightly over warriors who selfishly ruined his career and knew it all along


                                Jimmy butler 50/50 sign and trade to rockets
                                Last edited by firekillex; 06-26-19, 01:18 AM.
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                                • Bluehorseshoe
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 07-13-06
                                  • 14985

                                  #261
                                  Originally posted by Mike Huntertz
                                  But the Toronto Raptors are based in Canada, which means players – who are often U.S. residents – face different tax liabilities.

                                  American players in Canada pay tax on their Canadian-sourced income. Most athletes will be subject to the maximum rate of 53.53 percent (combined federal and provincial) on the income earned while playing there. As U.S. residents, they will also be taxed by the IRS on all income, where the top federal rate is 37 percent. They also may owe state taxes based on where they are a resident, and jock taxes for income earned in different cities.

                                  This is double taxation and doesn't exist. If it did no US athletes would play in Canada.
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                                  • Cuse0323
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 12-09-09
                                    • 30169

                                    #262
                                    People still talking about this? He’s fcking going home to LA, and always has been. It’s not difficult to understand.
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                                    • Cuse0323
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 12-09-09
                                      • 30169

                                      #263
                                      Originally posted by Cuse0323
                                      He’s going to LA, and always has been. Not sure why anyone thinks otherwise. Big market, and his hometown. Absolutely zero chance he ends up anywhere besides the Clippers or Lakers. This was a one year thing for him to get things in order to go back home. He has all his marketing ordeals in order, and will be huge in the LA market. He’s in line to make bank, and LA is the perfect spot to do so. Kids will be running out to buy New Balances like crazy. He played the Spurs well, and this was his plan all along whether they won a championship or not.
                                      Shit, good post pal. I don’t know what you were on, but you made my point exactly. Forgot all about you. Xanax is a bitch.
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                                      • Cuse0323
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                                        • 12-09-09
                                        • 30169

                                        #264
                                        I have a grand, or whatever the hell you wanna do, that says he goes to LA. No clue if it’s the Clips or Lakers, and don’t care to guess. He will go home though. Feel free to email at this name at yahoo. I got away with it before, so let’s try it again. Hey Shari. Just be a man of your word, and pay when you lose. I’ll take up to 10K on it, even money.
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                                        • Mike Huntertz
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                                          • 08-19-09
                                          • 11206

                                          #265
                                          Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
                                          Thanxs Blue......Wow, I never knew that. For poor guyz (blue collar) the diff. is very little.
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                                          • Snowball
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 11-15-09
                                            • 30042

                                            #266
                                            Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
                                            American athletes only liable to pay Canadian tax on the games they play IN CANADA
                                            should be stated more clearly in that article.

                                            Still, it's bullshit. Canada would make more money doing away with this
                                            and attracting more teams and better players.
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                                            • jjgold
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 07-20-05
                                              • 388189

                                              #267
                                              I think we know in 2 weeks
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                                              • homie1975
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 12-24-13
                                                • 15451

                                                #268
                                                Originally posted by firekillex
                                                he literally just won a championship , has a great team around him and is in the East , plus just signed multiple Canadian company deals / has a whole country behind him

                                                odds reflect Free Agency pretty well 90%+ of the time

                                                kawahi stays in toronto -225 ill go with that
                                                KD to nets -125 not as huge odds but ill take that slightly over warriors who selfishly ruined his career and knew it all along


                                                Jimmy butler 50/50 sign and trade to rockets
                                                even though i am a clipper fan i cannot disagree with anything you said in here. good post on all accounts covering Kawhi, KD, and Jimmy.

                                                If I'm KD i get the phukk away from toxic cancerous dray green and that organization that played russian roulette with my livelihood.
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                                                • Cuse0323
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 12-09-09
                                                  • 30169

                                                  #269
                                                  Damn, a gift of a line at even money, and no takers.
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                                                  • JIBBBY
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 12-10-09
                                                    • 83692

                                                    #270
                                                    Originally posted by Mike Huntertz
                                                    You don't know what high taxes are until you live where I do.
                                                    A place called Canada.
                                                    Well you guys have universal free healthcare for all.. To have that your taxes have to be jacked through the roof.. Looking at the Canadian tax brackets it's not any worse then the USA taxation income brackets though..

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                                                    • homie1975
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 12-24-13
                                                      • 15451

                                                      #271
                                                      Originally posted by Cuse0323
                                                      Damn, a gift of a line at even money, and no takers.
                                                      Cuser what's the wager? you are taking Clips at Even Money on points?
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                                                      • lakerboy
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 04-02-09
                                                        • 94371

                                                        #272
                                                        Originally posted by Cuse0323
                                                        Damn, a gift of a line at even money, and no takers.
                                                        Why not just take your money and bet clips +150 with the books?
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                                                        • cwnotorious
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 05-13-13
                                                          • 950

                                                          #273
                                                          He will be a clipper, but not for another few years. Toronto 1 and 1
                                                          Easier path to the finals in the east
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                                                          • JIBBBY
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 12-10-09
                                                            • 83692

                                                            #274
                                                            I'm not convinced Leonard makes the Clippers an automatic championship contender.. Clippers are young and play hard but no real stand out talent, just a group of good players that play hard and well together..

                                                            Leonard should stay in Toronto. I don't think the Raptors will repeat though. Other teams around the league about to get stacked.
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                                                            • homie1975
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 12-24-13
                                                              • 15451

                                                              #275
                                                              Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                              Why not just take your money and bet clips +150 with the books?
                                                              right.

                                                              even though i am rooting hard for the clips to get him, i am willing to wager all 5900 of my points that he will Not be a clipper.

                                                              the problem is SBR only allows me to transfer 2 points per day to another poster
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                                                              • firekillex
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 09-18-13
                                                                • 6420

                                                                #276
                                                                Originally posted by homie1975
                                                                even though i am a clipper fan i cannot disagree with anything you said in here. good post on all accounts covering Kawhi, KD, and Jimmy.

                                                                If I'm KD i get the phukk away from toxic cancerous dray green and that organization that played russian roulette with my livelihood.
                                                                its just common sense, everybody talking about taxes and all this.. kawahi literally would make more money playing for the raptors yearly then leaving again.... he literally just won a championship and the east is very open if philly losses pieces + bucks cannot resign everybody.... much easier path to the finals then in the west which is absolutely loaded.. raptors are a very deep team and can easily sit him 15-25 games again and still be a top 3 seed which is the major key here.. in the west he cannot do this.... his sister and uncle dennis love toronto and Masai, where Masai has also said he loves toronto and is staying for sure... you have the MIP player Siakam whos a budding star, a very veteran group with one of the best defenses ive seen in years .... he will most likely move to LA in the future but id say in a few years after trying to win a couple more championship in Toronto where an entire country is behind him


                                                                and yes KD + Kyrie in Brooklyn .... damn that would be crazy
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                                                                • firekillex
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 09-18-13
                                                                  • 6420

                                                                  #277
                                                                  Originally posted by Cuse0323
                                                                  Damn, a gift of a line at even money, and no takers.
                                                                  500 points even odds Kawahi stays in toronto
                                                                  wouldnt wager real cash over SBR , if you can just bail tbh but down for some betpoints on here
                                                                  its either Raptors or Clippers no other options im seeing that are actually realistic , could go either way , who knows how the clippers meeting goes, accept by tonight if serious

                                                                  let me no
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                                                                  • icon
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 01-09-18
                                                                    • 3404

                                                                    #278
                                                                    OddsShark Staff
                                                                    June 25, 2019, 7:38 PM

                                                                    Kawhi Leonard has remained silent on his plans for next season, but with the two-time NBA Finals MVP set to become an unrestricted free agent the odds of him returning to the Toronto Raptors have vaulted to a short -225 at sportsbooks monitored by OddsShark.com.

                                                                    Leonard reportedly expressed little interest in making the move to Toronto last summer after being acquired along with Danny Green in a deal that shipped Raptors fan favourite DeMar DeRozan to the San Antonio Spurs.

                                                                    But after leading the Raptors to their first NBA championship in franchise history, Leonard has stuck around town.

                                                                    The 27-year-old made a surprise appearance when the Toronto Blue Jays played the Los Angeles Angels last week, and he has reportedly engaged in talks on sponsorship deals with multiple Toronto-area companies.




                                                                    The Los Angeles Clippers remain the +175 second favourite to bring Leonard back to his hometown, well ahead of the Lakers at +800, and the New York Knicks at +1400, while the Brooklyn Nets lag at +1600 on those NBA odds.
                                                                    Last edited by icon; 06-26-19, 04:35 PM.
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                                                                    • firekillex
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 09-18-13
                                                                      • 6420

                                                                      #279
                                                                      went from +110 both to that in days
                                                                      odds change and hes the one saying hell give even odds..... not sure why youre trying to be a snitch and show odds that anybody has access too???

                                                                      bet offer open until 12 midnight, with all the talk im not seeing a response ???
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                                                                      • DavidGoliath5003
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 03-20-18
                                                                        • 4100

                                                                        #280
                                                                        Gasol said his future depended on what Kawhi does. He said he would comeback if Kawhi does. Gasol exersised his option to play another year for the Raptors today
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