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surviveSBR MVP
- 01-08-11
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KVBSBR Aristocracy
- 05-29-14
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#214Picked up Long Beach St, Louisville, and St Mary's.
I forecast these games to be close to the spreads, enough to buy, but on top of that my information is showing for each of these games a significant difference between the public betting information and the money being bet on them.
It's early yet today and more volume will come in, but these games seem to show a trend today where the bigger money is in disagreement with the public. Expect some RLM type movement here.
That's not reason to buy alone, but it adds to my handicapping work, adding some confidence in the plays.
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2daBankSBR Aristocracy
- 01-26-09
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DOM_TorettoRestricted User
- 01-28-13
- 9035
#216Didn’t matter, it went way under. Keep that in mind for more unders in this Battle 4 Atlantis, tightest rims in the world in that dark empty cave they play in. Good for good rebounding teams, bad for 3pt shooting teams.Comment -
2daBankSBR Aristocracy
- 01-26-09
- 88966
#217Kenpom all ya need baby, well worth the 20 a year!! I’d pay way more but don’t tell mr pomeroy that!!! Lmao.. shhhhhhhh. His scores not all that important to me although he typically has them very close to the opening line so gives ya a good idea where it gonna open!! His pace numbers and efficiency stats are incredible and love the way they formatted. I could prob use 5-6 other sites and get everything but why bother when ya get them all in one handy layout for minimal yearly fee!!!! Only handicapping tool I pay for l!!’Comment -
KVBSBR Aristocracy
- 05-29-14
- 74817
#219I think there is something up market wise in the Utah Vallet/LBST game.
I realize it's early season, but it is what it is and for what is worth no matter how you try cap thegame you tend to come up with Utah St winning with anywhere from 4 points to 15 points.
But heavy money flying in on LBST in the face of the public tickets. Word seems to be out and now the tickets are hitting LBST.
This line should drop even more and it's only the result of public numbers and stats being used that is keeping Utah Valley favored.
It seems the book is taking a position here, and it's one that sides with those numbers. As they like to say..."the book knows something."
They like Utah Valley, even though some sharp bettors have chosen LBST.
Not completely actionable info, but some added analysis nonetheless.
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KVBSBR Aristocracy
- 05-29-14
- 74817
#220
Good call there.
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2daBankSBR Aristocracy
- 01-26-09
- 88966
#221I hope everyone figured this out and jumped on those 4???!!!.. one down which was super easy cash w sooners/Gators!!! Stanford in game!! 2 more later!!! Didn’t even look at any number or attempt to cap, barely even knew who all the teams were!! Best case scenario is we get jump shooting teams, even better when they high scoring teams and we get high totals. Ultimately it don’t matter, if ya’ll got to watch yet you know what I’m talking bout, if not I suggest you take a look. Shit is played in some type of banquet hall, the backdrop is redic, the lighting is terrible, nothing about this venue is beneficial to a shooter!!! Never has been and never will be!!! Depth perception is a nightmare im sure!! Eventually guys get little better and start shooting less but this 1st round I been pounding under for years!! I usually cap a little but we didn’t have the time here and for real it don’t matter in normal sense. What you actually wanna look for is teams that take a lot of jumpers, don’t even care if they good shooters or not. Want to avoid games with teams who go to the rack a lot.. the one thing we gotta be weary of is missed jumpers leading to lot of run outs so like to avoid teams who crash offensive boards as that obviously leads to opposing team getting more fast break chances..., ok that far as we diving into for now, I have some crash course capping to do so we can make more money this evening!!!Comment -
2daBankSBR Aristocracy
- 01-26-09
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2daBankSBR Aristocracy
- 01-26-09
- 88966
#223Already addressed brother. Nightmare venue for shooters. Shhhh don’t tell anyone (else!! Lmao)..Comment -
frankieunits2685SBR MVP
- 11-19-17
- 3575
#224I hope everyone figured this out and jumped on those 4???!!!.. one down which was super easy cash w sooners/Gators!!! Stanford in game!! 2 more later!!! Didn’t even look at any number or attempt to cap, barely even knew who all the teams were!! Best case scenario is we get jump shooting teams, even better when they high scoring teams and we get high totals. Ultimately it don’t matter, if ya’ll got to watch yet you know what I’m talking bout, if not I suggest you take a look. Shit is played in some type of banquet hall, the backdrop is redic, the lighting is terrible, nothing about this venue is beneficial to a shooter!!! Never has been and never will be!!! Depth perception is a nightmare im sure!! Eventually guys get little better and start shooting less but this 1st round I been pounding under for years!! I usually cap a little but we didn’t have the time here and for real it don’t matter in normal sense. What you actually wanna look for is teams that take a lot of jumpers, don’t even care if they good shooters or not. Want to avoid games with teams who go to the rack a lot.. the one thing we gotta be weary of is missed jumpers leading to lot of run outs so like to avoid teams who crash offensive boards as that obviously leads to opposing team getting more fast break chances..., ok that far as we diving into for now, I have some crash course capping to do so we can make more money this evening!!!Comment -
2daBankSBR Aristocracy
- 01-26-09
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#225Tennessee -7.. I been a big buyer in vols under Rick Barnes, he has this squad playing some grown man ass defense. Chis Mack will prob get there with ville as well but he in year one while barns has this thing established and ready to make some noise. Nichols st and Vermont have both gotten into the 70s vs vile at home, if vols approach 80 this game lights out as I think they keep ville down in high 60s..Comment -
2daBankSBR Aristocracy
- 01-26-09
- 88966
#226Puke/zags over 167.. half unit, I hate missing the good number and luckily that caused me to pass on the auburn game. I just don’t see this game anywhere close to the same. Imo it gonna take 90 to win this without question. Zags really playing at sick pace this year and can’t imagine that gomma hurt pukes feelings. As long As this game competitive it flies over. Hawaii pretty much opposite of that nightmare gym in the other tourney we playing unders, nice soft rims here.Comment -
KVBSBR Aristocracy
- 05-29-14
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#227Tennessee -7.. I been a big buyer in vols under Rick Barnes, he has this squad playing some grown man ass defense. Chis Mack will prob get there with ville as well but he in year one while barns has this thing established and ready to make some noise. Nichols st and Vermont have both gotten into the 70s vs vile at home, if vols approach 80 this game lights out as I think they keep ville down in high 60s..
I forecast Louisville to win by 8 points, while that non predictive public gauge shows Tenn by 4.
I feel like that line is too high and I can see why money has hit the dog. Thing is, it's so early in the season that any of hose numbers are only so valid.
I think, in order of probability, the game is either close to the spread, a Louisville upset, or a Tenn blowout.
See if Tenn can surprise, they might have a good team this year.
Rick Barnes seems solid.
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2daBankSBR Aristocracy
- 01-26-09
- 88966
#228Took Lousiville +8 here. I was expecting a that line to drop, a little RLM, so you have a good reaction line here.
I forecast Louisville to win by 8 points, while that non predictive public gauge shows Tenn by 4.
I feel like that line is too high and I can see why money has hit the dog. Thing is, it's so early in the season that any of hose numbers are only so valid.
I think, in order of probability, the game is either close to the spread, a Louisville upset, or a Tenn blowout.
See if Tenn can surprise, they might have a good team this year.
Rick Barnes seems solid.
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KVBSBR Aristocracy
- 05-29-14
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#229Puke/zags over 167.. half unit, I hate missing the good number and luckily that caused me to pass on the auburn game. I just don’t see this game anywhere close to the same. Imo it gonna take 90 to win this without question. Zags really playing at sick pace this year and can’t imagine that gomma hurt pukes feelings. As long As this game competitive it flies over. Hawaii pretty much opposite of that nightmare gym in the other tourney we playing unders, nice soft rims here.
Duke has been hyped, and that line is sort of low for that hype.
This could a competitive game alright and agree that will send it Over.
Will be exciting to see if we could get OVER time.
Gonna be a good early season matchup, if not, Duke is going to show they are the cream of the crop by a mile.
Either way, it's going to take some points to happen.
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2daBankSBR Aristocracy
- 01-26-09
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#230Duke won't win them all, and a team like the Zags could get them.
Duke has been hyped, and that line is sort of low for that hype.
This could a competitive game alright and agree that will send it Over.
Will be exciting to see if we could get OVER time.
Gonna be a good early season matchup, if not, Duke is going to show they are the cream of the crop by a mile.
Either way, it's going to take some points to happen.
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BigDofBASBR Posting Legend
- 09-30-09
- 19313
#233I like the Tenn. play but I’m on the under in the Duke game despite it moving. Got it at under 169.
The rims are friendly in Maui and I’ve been doing well with the overs in that tourney but this is just a gut play. I feel like Zags will play defense and value each possession more so I’m thinking the tempo will be a little bit slower.
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2daBankSBR Aristocracy
- 01-26-09
- 88966
#234I like the Tenn. play but I’m on the under in the Duke game despite it moving. Got it at under 169.
The rims are friendly in Maui and I’ve been doing well with the overs in that tourney but this is just a gut play. I feel like Zags will play defense and value each possession more so I’m thinking the tempo will be a little bit slower.
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2daBankSBR Aristocracy
- 01-26-09
- 88966
#235Minnesota ev.. forget the 1 point, take the ml so no juice.. this one pretty simple and comes down to one word (REBOUNDING!). Both good on the offensive boards, but only one of them does their job cleaning up the defensive glass, guess which?!?! Just go look at both teams like opponents in this tourney, gophers dominating glass on both ends while huskies giving up lot of offensive boards to lessor rebounding teams.Comment -
JampieceSBR High Roller
- 10-08-13
- 111
#236Minnesota ev.. forget the 1 point, take the ml so no juice.. this one pretty simple and comes down to one word (REBOUNDING!). Both good on the offensive boards, but only one of them does their job cleaning up the defensive glass, guess which?!?! Just go look at both teams like opponents in this tourney, gophers dominating glass on both ends while huskies giving up lot of offensive boards to lessor rebounding teams.Comment -
2daBankSBR Aristocracy
- 01-26-09
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#238Clemson-4.5.. we saw what happened to creighton when they faced a hard nosed defensive squad when osu went into their house and pretty much lead wire to wire. Tigers a better offensive squad imo and play that same hard nosed defense osu brought to hold jays arpuns 60. Jays just strike me as a team that much better in a up tempo more free flowing offensive gm. Tigers don’t let anyone’s offense flow freely!!Comment -
THam12SBR Posting Legend
- 03-12-13
- 12640
#239Agree on Minny. Especially considering Washington isn't shooting particularly well so far this year.. Minny boards gonna be huge.Comment -
frankieunits2685SBR MVP
- 11-19-17
- 3575
#240Clemson-4.5.. we saw what happened to creighton when they faced a hard nosed defensive squad when osu went into their house and pretty much lead wire to wire. Tigers a better offensive squad imo and play that same hard nosed defense osu brought to hold jays arpuns 60. Jays just strike me as a team that much better in a up tempo more free flowing offensive gm. Tigers don’t let anyone’s offense flow freely!!Comment -
keely85SBR MVP
- 01-04-15
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#241over lookin decent, tailed ya on that bank, a big duke comeback will help in the secondComment -
krk1030SBR Posting Legend
- 08-13-08
- 17610
#242Minny is +1.5 nowComment -
MackballsSBR Hall of Famer
- 12-01-16
- 5810
#244Second half total line says we should be in good shape here.Comment -
2daBankSBR Aristocracy
- 01-26-09
- 88966
#245Uc Irvine -2.5... we on day 3 in a row and we get the deeper more experienced squad that most importantly doesn’t rely on jump shots to score. Toledo has been shooting lights out this tourney but when you get to days 3 or 4 in a row the 1st thing that goes is your jump shot. To make matters better for us the anteaters have been playing fantastic perimeter degense all season which a continuance of last year where they were 42nd in nation in 3 point fg percentage against. Thus far they holding opponents 2% lower than that right around 30% and looking back they have basically held everyone they have faced below their season marks., everything points to the anteaters continuing their impressive season!Comment
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