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Art Rooney paid $2,500 for the Steelers. Today it's worth $2.5 BILLION. Just who the fukk is greedy here? The NFL owners have fukked their players for years. The pay distribution is unfair for the players and tilted towards the owners. The retirement is set so that very few guys can get it and they routinely deny players of medical treatment after they've played the game. The NFLPA has been colluding with the owners to strip the players of any and all power. Too many players need that next paycheck, so they can't help but suit up next week. So there's zero unity among them.
Talk about hogs getting slaughtered... Here is a list of players DEAD from CTE. There's not enough pages at SBR for me to list other debilitating long term injuries, such as arthritis, memory loss, chronic pain, immobilization, etc. This is just from CTE. These greedy bastards.
These guys are DEAD!!
- Jovan Belcher[4]
- Forrest Blue[5]
- Bill Bryant[6]
- Lew Carpenter[7]
- Dwight Clark[8]
- Daniel Colchico[6]
- Lou Creekmur[9]
- Art DeCarlo[6]
- Shane Dronett[10]
- Dave Duerson[11][12]
- Pete Duranko[6]
- Ray Easterling[12][13][14]
- Frank Gifford[12][15]
- Cookie Gilchrist[12][16]
- John Grimsley[17]
- Chris Henry[12][18]
- Aaron Hernandez[19]
- Jim Hudson[6]
- Gerry Huth[6]
- Tom Keating[6]
- Terry Long[1]
- Rob Lytle[20]
- John Mackey[12][21]
- Ollie Matson[12][22]
- Tom McHale[12][23]
- Earl Morrall[24]
- Paul Oliver[6]
- Joe O'Malley[6]
- Mike Pyle[6]
- Adrian Robinson[25]
- Scott Ross [26]
- Tyler Sash[12][27]
- Junior Seau[12][28]
- Bubba Smith[12][29]
- Robert Sowell[6]
- Ken Stabler[12][30]
- Justin Strzelczyk[12]
- Mosi Tatupu[31]
- Kevin Turner[32]
- Andre Waters[12]
- Mike Webster[12]
- Ralph Wenzel[12]
- John Wilbur[6]
- Curtis Brown[52]
- Gene Hickerson[53]
- Wally Hilgenberg
- Larry Morris[54][55]
- Doug Kotar
- Joe Perry[56]
- Jim Ringo[54]
Here is a list of living players with CTE
- Mike Adamle[59] (age 68)
- Brent Boyd[60] (age 61)
- O. J. Brigance[61] (age 49)
- Lance Briggs[62] (age 37)
- Wayne Clark[63] (age 71)
- Joe DeLamielleure[64] (age 67)
- Tony Dorsett[64] (age 64)
- Mark Duper[65] (age 59)
- Brett Favre[66] (age 48)
- Charlie Garner[67] (age 46)
- Steve Gleason[68][69] (age 41)
- Andrew Glover[70] (age 51)
- Dwight Harrison[71] (age 69)
- Larry Johnson[72](age 38)
- Ted Johnson[60] (age 45)
- Bernie Kosar[73] (age 54)
- Fulton Kuykendall[58] (age 65)
- Dorsey Levens[58] (age 48)
- Jamal Lewis[58] (age 39)
- Leonard Marshall[64] (age 56)
- Ricardo McDonald[53][71] (age 48)
- Jim McMahon[74] (age 59)
- Bob Meeks[75] (age 49)
- Matthew Monger[76] (age 56)
- Sean Morey[60] (age 42)
- Guy Morriss[77]
- Frank Orgel [78]
- Antwaan Randle El[79] (age 39)
- George Rogers (age 59)
- Tim Shaw[80] (age 34)
- Steve Smith[81] (age 54)
- Ryan Stewart[58] (age 44)
- Darryl Talley [82] (age 58)
- Kyle Turley[83] (age 43)
- Mitch White[32] (age 40)
- Willie Wood[53] (age 81)
- Frank Wycheck[53] (age 46)
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Here is the list of players that are plaintiffs in CTE lawsuits. Yeah, they are all greedy fukkks aren't they?
[LIST][*]Khalid Abdullah[84][*]Robert Abraham[85][*]Sid Abramowitz[86][*]Bobby E. Abrams Jr.[87][*]Ron Acks[88][*]Anthony (Tony) Adams[85][*]George Adams[89][*]Henry Adams[90][*]Keith Adams[91][*]Robert Adams[92][*]Scott Adams[91][*]Vashone Adams[88][*]Margene Adkins[85][*]Luis Aguiar[92][*]Chidi Ahanatu[93][94][*]David Ahrens[85][*]Samaji Akili[85][*]Ethan Albright[95][*]Arnold Ale[96][*]Charles Alexander Jr.[97][*]David Alexander[98][*]Roc Alexander[96][*]Vernest Alexander[86][*]Eric Allen[99][*]Dalva Allen[100][*]Terry T. Allen[101][*]James Althoff[90][*]Martin Amsler[102][*]Michael Andersen[91][*]Alfred Anderson[98][88][*]Donny Anderson[90][*]Erick Anderson[99][*]Fred Anderson[85][94][*]Garry (Donny) Anderson[85][*]Jamal Anderson[103][*]Kim Anderson[104][*]Ottis Anderson[105][*]Richard Anderson[85][*]Roger Anderson III[106][*]Charles Anthony[85][107][*]Cornelius Anthony[90][*]Reidel Anthony[85][*]Lionel Antoine[85][*]Shellye Archambeau[92][*]Jojuan Armour[108][*]Harvey Armstrong[85][*]Richard Arndt[88][*]Mark Arneson[85][88][*]Jon Arnett[109][*]James Arnold[106][88][*]Joseph Aska Jr.[107][*]Peter Athas[85][*]Mike Augustyniak[85][*]William Austin[102][*]Reginald Austin[110][*]Robert Avellini[92][*]John Avery[111][*]Steve Baack[93][94][*]Charlie Babb[86][*]Robert Babich[88][*]Curtis Baham[112][*]Elmer Bailey[93][94][*]Karsten Bailey[103][*]Mario Bailey[107][*]Robert Bailey[110][*]William Bain[100][*]Jame Baisleys Jr.[106][*]Ralph Baker[96][*]Brian Baldinger[111][*]Gary Baldinger[91][*]Richard Baldinger[96][*]Sam Ball[100][*]John Banaszak[85][*]Fred Banks[103][*]Mike Banks[101][*]Michael Bankston[107][*]Warren Bankston[111][*]Gary Barbbaro[113][*]Christopher Barber[98][*]Roy Barker[114][*]Jerome Barkum[115][*]Kevan Barlow[114][*]Reggie Barlow[114][*]Allen Barnes[85][*]Billy Ray Barnes[98][*]Jeff Barnes[85][*]Larry Barnes[116][*]Lew Barnes[91][*]Fred Barnett[108][87][*]Timothy Barnett[87][*]Lemuel Barney[85][*]Steve Bartkowski[85][*]James Barton[86][*]Brian Baschnagel[92][*]Idress Bashir[93][*]Mike Bass[85][*]Eric Bassey[117][*]Larry Bates[88][*]Patrick Bates[101][*]Michael Batiste[96][*]Marco Battaglia[101][*]James Battle[88][*]Steve Baumgartner[88][*]Aaron Beasley[114][*]Derrick Beasley[90][*]Terry Beasley[103][*]Doug Beaudoin[85][*]Jeff Beaver[91][*]Aubrey Beavers[107][*]Brett Bech[113][*]Kurt Becker[109][*]Rogers Beckett[107][*]Don Beebe[109][*]Thomas Beer[85][*]Monty Beisel[91][*]Anthony Bell[100][*]Billy Bell[85][*]Robert Bell[85][*]Bruce Bell[92][*]Edward Bell[100][*]Grantis Bell[98][*]Ken Bell[98][*]Nickolas Bell[85][*]Rodney Bellinger[111][*]Donnell Bennett[114][*]Woodrow Bennett[116][*]Charles Benson[96][*]Mitchell Benson[107][*]Troy Benson[98][*]Peter Bercich[101][*]Bob Berry[85][*]Gary Berry[86][*]Sean Berton[118][*]Donald Bessillieu[105][*]Eric Beverly[114][*]Richard Bielski[98][*]Keith Biggers[96][*]Guy Bingham[103][*]Ryon Bingham[101][*]Joseph Biscaha[96][*]Bill Bishop[85][*]Harold Bishop[92][*]Ken Blackman[91][*]Lyle Blackwood[88][94][*]Lyle Blackwood Jr.[93][*]Willie Blade[114][*]Brian Blades[93][94][*]Horatio Blades[93][94][*]Robert Blanchard[102][*]Ruben Scott Blanton[101][*]Anthony Blaylock[103][*]Michael Blazitz[107][*]Phillip Bobo[93][*]Joseph Bock[100][*]Dominec Boddie[88][*]Nicholas Bolkovac[85][*]Andrew Bolton[96][*]Ronald Bolton[102][*]Scott Bolzan[88][*]Vaughn Booker[110][*]Ryan Boschetti[101][*]Keith Bostic[107][*]Michael Boulware[101][*]Emil Boures[96][*]Sam Bowers[96][*]Charles Bowser[107][*]Bobby Boyd[88][*]Brent Boyd[85][*]Gregory Boyd[85][*]Greg Bracelin[102][*]Edward Bradley Jr. [96][*]Henry Bradley[88][85][*]Otha Bradley[88][*]William C. Bradley[105][*]Kyle Brady[107][*]Stephen Braggs[91][*]Dennis Bragonier[90][*]Daniel Brandenburg[106][*]David Brandon[103][*]Scot Brantley[116][*]Melvin Bratton[110][*]Robert Brazile[84][*]Jeffrey Bregel[102][114][*]John Brewer[85][*]Greg Brewton[91][*]Lamont Brightful[114][*]Vincent Brisby[114][*]Jerry Broadnax[90][*]Vaughn Broadnax[109][*]Timothy Broady[103][*]John Brodie[92][*]Kevin Brooks[107][*]Michael Brooks[92][86][*]James Brophy[96][*]Luther Broughton[109][*]Steven Broussard[103][*]Aaron Brown[96][*]Cedric Brown[116][92][*]Chad Brown[114][*]Charles Brown[88][*]Curtis Brown[103][*]Deauntae Brown[114][*]Edward Brown[109][*]Fakhir Brown[117][*]Gregory Brown[119][*]Joseph "Berry" Brown[116][*]Lance Brown[88][*]Lomas Brown[120][*]Marc S. Brown[85][*]Raymond Brown[85][*]Reggie Brown[110][*]Regilyn Brown[114][*]Reginald Brown[107][*]Robert L. Brown[93][*]Robert Lee Brown[94][*]Roger Brown[109][*]Ronald Brown[90][*]Terry Brown[107][*]Keith Browner[103][*]Ross Browner[103][*]Lydia Brunet[94][*]Robert Brunet[93][*]Jeffrey Bryant[103][*]Maurice Bryant[107][*]Warren Bryant[103][*]Miguel ("Mike") Bryce-Dingle[110][*]Vince Buck[112][*]Robert Buczkowski[101][*]Ed Budde[117][*]Dan Buenning[121][*]Daniel Buggs[103][*]L. Drew Buie[88][*]Rudolph Bukich[116][*]Norman Bulaich[96][*]Courtland Bullard[111][*]Courtland Bullard Jr.[107][*]Jarrod Bunch[102][*]Jim Bundren[122][*]James Burgess[111][*]Randall William Burke[109][*]Bobby Burnett[100][*]Joe Burns[103][*]Jeff Burris[105][*]Derrick Burroughs[98][*]Noah Burroughs[85][*]Kenneth Burrow[85][*]Blair Bush[86][*]Andy Bushak[90][*]Dexter Bussey[96][*]Robert Butler[93][94][*]Duane Butler[114][*]Leroy Butler[111][*]Michael Butler[88][*]Raymond Butler[103][*]Keith Byars[111][*]Carl Byrum[102][*]James Cadile[96][*]William Cahill[85][*]Kenneth Callicut[123][*]Kenneth Callicutt[102][*]Christopher Calloway[105][*]Richard Camarillo[88][*]Lamar Campbell[110][*]Woodrow Campbell[102][*]James Cannida[86][*]John Cappelletti[85][*]Joe Carmen[95][*]Albert Carmichael[117][*]Brett Carolan[90][*]Joseph Carollo[100][*]Ronald Carpenter Jr.[88][*]William Carr[103][*]Roger Carr[85][*]Alphonso Carreker[103][*]Paul Carrington[106][*]Travis Carroll[103][*]Allen Carter[85][*]Dale Carter[99][*]Jonathan Carter[107][*]Lavonya Carter[103][96][*]Michael Carter[86][*]Rubin Carter[88][*]Virgil Carter[URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFL_players_with_chronic_trauComment -
CONTINUED LIST OF GREEDY FUKKs
[LIST][*]Thomas Garlick[92][*]Kelvin Garmon[101][*]Kevin Garrett[86][*]Walt Garrison[90][*]Percell Gaskins[107][*]Jim Gatziolis[91][*]Akbar Gbaja-Biamila[104][*]James Geathers[103][*]Kenneth Geddes[88][*]Chris Gedney[91][*]Mitchell Geier[90][*]Chris Geile[99][*]Dennis Gentry[98][*]Jammi German[114][*]Ronnie Ghent[91][*]Antonio Gibson[105][*]Ernest Gibson[110][*]Jimmie Giles[116][*]Darrel Gill[107][*]Hubert Ginn[85][90][*]Reginald Gipson[107][*]Robert Gladieux[88][*]Brian Glasgow[86][*]Lamarr Glenn[111][*]Andrew Glover[108][129][*]Randall Godfrey[110][*]Leo Goeas[98][*]Brad Goebel[99][*]George Goeddeke[105][*]Jack Golden[114][*]Austin Gonsoulin[109][*]Chris Goode[105][*]Conrad Goode[88][*]Kerry Goode[105][*]Robert Hunter Goodwin[101][*]Tom Goosby[90][*]Jeff Gossett[91][*]Leonard Gotshalk[99][*]Kurt Gouveia[109][*]Cornell Gowdy[94][*]James Grabowski[109][*]Randy Gradishar[85][*]Neil Graff[90][*]William Graham[107][*]Darryl Grant[109][*]Robert Grant[99][*]Marsharne Graves[107][*]Rory Graves[105][*]Carlton Gray[86][*]Melvin Gray[85][*]Terry Gray[107][*]David Grayson[93][*]Donald Greco[85][*]Donnie Green[85][*]Woodrow Green Jr.[88][*]George ("Tiger") Greene[110][*]Guy Green[93][*]Hugh Green[93][94][*]Jacob Green[102][*]Jacquez Green[85][*]Jarvis Green[114][*]Paul Green[102][*]Roy Green[93][94][*]Victor Green[103][*]Willie Green[85][*]Kenneth Greene[88][*]Carl Greenwood[107][*]David Greenwood[111][*]Curtis Greer[106][*]Robert Gregor[85][*]James Grier[84][*]Frank Griffin[102][*]Jeff Griffin[107][*]John Griffin[92][*]Keith Griffin[117][*]Ray Griffin[96][*]Howard Griffith[99][*]William Griggs III[88][*]Alfred Gross[85][*]Jake Grove[122][*]Paul Gruber[117][*]Robert Grupp[92][*]Eric Guliford[107][*]Michael Guman[88][*]Mark Gunn[114][*]Keith Guthrie[86][*]Myron Guyton[120][*]Adam Haayer[121][*]Dale Hackbert[85][*]Drew Haddad[106][*]Michael Haddix[119][*]Samuel Haddix[91][*]David Hadley[106][*]Britt Hager[111][*]D. Kris Haines[103][*]John Haines[98][*]Carl Hairston[102][*]James Hall[117][*]Ronald Hall[88][*]Ronnie Halliburton[92][*]Ronald Hallstrom[88][*]Derren Hambrick[114][*]Troy Hambrick[114][*]Keith Hamilton[111][*]Ruffin Hamilton[103][*]Steven Hamilton[86][*]Gary Hammond[90][*]Jermaine Hampton[107][*]Rodney Hampton[105][*]Anthony Hancock[105][*]Kevin Hancock[90][*]Charley Hannah[130][*]Terry Hanratty[96][*]Chet Hanulak[91][*]Bobby Harden[85][*]Michael Harden[117][*]Arnell Hardison[93][*]William Hardison[94][*]Cedrick Hardman[85][*]Terry Hardy[103][*]Anthony Hargain[105][*]James Hargrove[86][*]Andy Harmon[98][*]Clarence Harmon Jr.[86][*]Dennis Harrah[85][*]Charley Harraway[85][94][*]James Harrell[85][*]Al Harris[96][*]Cliff Harris[85][*]Duriel Harris[103][*]Elroy Harris Jr.[107][*]Joe Harris[105][*]Kevin Harris[100][*]Kwame Harris[90][*]Leonard Harris[96][*]Marques Harris[101][*]Robert Harris[114][*]Sean Harris[96][*]Dwight Harrison[87][*]Lloyd Harrison[107][*]Jeff Hart[91][*]Greg Hartle[90][*]Frank Hartley[96][*]Leonard Hauss[86][*]Samuel Havrilak[88][*]Chilton Hawkins[85][*]Wayne Hawkins[105][*]Brandon Hayes[90][*]Frederick Hayes[94][*]Frederick R. Hayes[93][*]Michael Haynes[101][*]Harold Hays[90][88][*]Herman Heard[91][*]Garrison Hearst[103][*]Johnny Hector[96][*]Patrick Heenan[105][*]Craig Heimburger[121][*]Ron Heller[91][*]Dale Hellestrae[86][*]Keith Henderson[87][*]Reuben Henderson[86][*]Thomas Henderson[104][*]Wyatt Henderson[96][*]Thomas Hendricks[88][*]Brian Henesey[131][*]Edgar Henke[109][*]Charles Hennigan[88][*]Terry Hermeling[88][*]Steven Herndon[114][*]Don Herrmann[92][*]Bruce Herron[111][*]Ronald Hester[91][*]Ralph Heywood[85][*]John Hicks[102][88][*]Lamarcus Hicks[114][*]Victor Hicks[85][*]Darrell Hill[107][*]David Hill[90][96][*]Demetrius Hill[84][*]Efrem Hill[103][*]Eric Hill[112][*]J. D. Hill[107][*]Kahlil Hill[107][*]Kent Hill[85][*]LonZell Hill[105][*]Marcus Hill[107][*]Raion Hill[112][*]Sean Hill[114][*]Brian Hinkle[111][*]Michael Hinnant[86][*]Eddie Hinton[98][*]Terrell Hoage[96][*]Michael Hoban[91][*]Stephen Hobbs[103][*]Liffort Hobley[92][*]Lincoln Hodgdon[101][*]Floyd Hodge[93][94][*]Sedrick Hodge[110][*]William Hoggard[86][*]Kelly Holcomb[103][*]Stephen Holden[88][*]Eric Holle[92][*]Joey Hollenbeck[122][*]Brian Holloway[116][*]Rodney Holman[103][*]Bruce Holmes[103][*]Jerry Holmes[98][*]Joseph Holmes[107][*]Leroy Holt Jr.[102][*]Samuel Horner III[88][*]James Hood[105][*]Fair Hooker[102][*]Bryan Hooks[105][*]Tam Hopkins[107][*]Wes Hopkins[100][*]Mike Horan[109][*]Don Horn[85][*]Joe Horn[118][*]Robert Horn[88][*]Ronnie Hornsby[85][*]Ethan Horton[96][*]Jason Horton[91][*]Jeff Hostetler[91][*]James Hough[85][*]John Wesley Houser Jr.[85][*]Artis Houston[107][*]Dana Howard[117][*]Paul Howard[85][*]Todd Howard[98][*]Delles Howell[85][*]Chuck Howley[90][*]Bill Howton[98][*]Chris Hudson[107][*]Ken Huff[85][*]David Hughes[107][*]Tyrone Hughes[112][*]Michael Hull[85][*]Corey Hulsey[95][*]David Humm[102][*]Leonard Humphries[88][*]Rickey Hunley[88][*]Daniel Hunter Jr.[88][*]Patrick Hunter[107][*]Bill Hurley[85][*]Maurice Hurst[112][*]Scott Hutchinson[88][*]Martin Imhof[91][*]Rene Ingoglia[95][*]Brian Ingram[105][*]Byron Ingram[123][*]Darryl Ingram[96][*]Jerry Inman[88][*]Joseph Iorio[106][*]Gerald Irons Sr.[88][*]Sedrick Irvin[103][*]Darrell Irvin[85][*]Heath Irwin[92][*]Raghib Ismal[117][*]Chris Jackie[103][*]Brad Jackson[85][*]Calvin Jackson[85][*]Clarence "Jazz" Jackson[96][*]Dexter Jackson[91][*]Harold L. Jackson[105][*]Jeffrey P. Jackson[104][*]James Jackson[104][*]Melvin Jackson Jr.[99][*]Michael Jackson[86][*]Richard Jackson[113][*]Ricky Jackson[113][*]Scott Jackson[101][*]Vestee Jackson[85][*]Harry Jacobs[115][*]Kendyl Jacox[102][*]Roland James[105][*]George Jamison[105][*]John Janata[104][*]Ernie Janet[96][*]J. Bruce Jarvis[85][*]Leon "Ray" Jarvis[85][*]James Jeffcoat[102][*]Dameian Jeffries[104][*]Noel Jenke[85][*]Kenneth Jenkins[93][94][*]Alfred Jenkins[103][*]Izel Jenkins[92][*]Ronney Jenkins[104][*]Melvin Jenkins[105][*][URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alred_Jenkins&action=Comment -
Mac, do you believe players should get whatever they want no questions asked?Comment -
Of course not Giant. But I don't understand how anyone can be upset when a guy holds out for more money. People do the same thing in corporate America all the time and we call them shrewd, smart and business men but when pro athletes do it, they are lazy, greedy and ungrateful??? To make matters worst, the people name calling them have no idea what NFL contracts entail. All they hear is Le'Veon turned down $70 million when the real contract was less than half that amount.
So he gets $33 million guaranteed. 40% goes to Uncle Sam right off the top. He pays his agent up to 3%, pays the state of PA another 3%, plus pays any state that the Steelers happen to play each week, which could be up to 13.3% if he plays in California (in December vs Oakland). So up to 60% of his salary is GONE before he even saw it. He gets paid on a W2 which means he can't use any standard deductions. Now, let's say he has a million dollar house in Texas for example. He would pay ~4% every year in property tax, he also pays Social Security taxes which isn't much for high income earners but it all adds up. We're almost up to 70% of that $33 million or he effectively now brings in only $10 - $12 million on what looked like a $70 million dollar offer. Now most people would love to make $10 million dollars but try living an entire lifetime on that when you're supposed to be a big baller, celebrity??? No wonder a lot of athletes end up out living their money.
While the owners get every tax break, corporate incentives, state incentives, reduced state and local tax for having a team, etc. It is a sham.Comment -
Karma. Sit out all of training camp, still get hurt during the season. These jagoffs sign long-term deals, then think they can sit out the last year or 2 hoping to sign another long-term deal. Doesn't work that way.
Thomas got what he deserved. If you sign the contract, show up and fckin play and that includes all mandatory training camps.Comment -
Hospitals don't have salary caps. If you want to pay people what they are worth, then get rid of the salary cap and give everyone a 1 year contract. Free agency every single year for every player.
The players union negotiated the franchise tag system. If there was no franchise tag, then players would simply have a 5 year deal and their salary, and all of them would sit out the last year trying to get another one. Their choice to do that. Organization's choice to fine them till they report and no need to trade them.
What team was going to trade for Earl Thomas knowing he was going to be a free agent the following season? Plus he's also old too. His days of getting another big time contract were over anyway, broken leg or notComment -
Who is upset? You are the only one who looks upset. Lol
Every situation is different. And I have seen many hogs get slaughtered in the corporate world.People do the same thing in corporate America all the time and we call them shrewd, smart and business men but when pro athletes do it, they are lazy, greedy and ungrateful???
To make matters worst, the people name calling them have no idea what NFL contracts entail. All they hear is Le'Veon turned down $70 million when the real contract was less than half that amount.
So he gets $33 million guaranteed. 40% goes to Uncle Sam right off the top. He pays his agent up to 3%, pays the state of PA another 3%, plus pays any state that the Steelers happen to play each week, which could be up to 13.3% if he plays in California (in December vs Oakland). So up to 60% of his salary is GONE before he even saw it. He gets paid on a W2 which means he can't use any standard deductions. Now, let's say he has a million dollar house in Texas for example. He would pay ~4% every year in property tax, he also pays Social Security taxes which isn't much for high income earners but it all adds up. We're almost up to 70% of that $33 million or he effectively now brings in only $10 - $12 million on what looked like a $70 million dollar offer. Now most people would love to make $10 million dollars but try living an entire lifetime on that when you're supposed to be a big baller, celebrity??? No wonder a lot of athletes end up out living their money.
While the owners get every tax break, corporate incentives, state incentives, reduced state and local tax for having a team, etc. It is a sham.
Um. You just inflated every number you could as high as possible to make the net as low as possible. I don’t know if it’s what you meant to say, but you can in fact take a standard deduction or itemize as either a w2 or 1099 income earner. Not sure which one NFL players are, but it doesn’t matter.
The highest effective tax rate in the NFL is 47% and that is Phillip Rivers’ tax rate. https://smartasset.com/taxes/jock-taxes-2017-edition
Everyone has to pay taxes, including NFL owners. In fact, I am sure they pay quite a bit more, nominally, than players do. Yes they get tax breaks, incentives, and abatements. That is the free market society that we live in. Cities and states offer tax incentives to attract business and grow their economies.
I really don’t have time to continue debating back and forth. I think we have a philosophical difference of opinion on this that will not change no matter how many times we go back and forth.
But the bottom line is, whether or not you or Bell or whoever like the way things are run in the NFL doesn’t matter. It is the way it is. And Bell is fukking himself in every way possible by doing what he is doing. Not only has he lost a ton of money, but he has lowered his stock price considerably because nobody will pay full boat for all the problems he will bring to whatever team he goes to.Comment -
Oops wrong thread me thinksComment -
Short term, didn't Seattle win this conflict?
Earl Thomas helps them get 2 wins and then gets too badly injured to be traded to another team. Less competition.Comment -
I don't know what injustice was done to Thomas here
He was under contract
They did not want to keep him after his contract was up and couldn't get what they wanted for him in a trade
What did they do wrong???
This is nothing like the Bell situation where they keep franchising him and running him into the groundComment -
Don't be so obtuse. You don't have to have a personal relationship to know that they're greedy as fukk. One of the main characteristics of richest are narcissism. You have to lack empathy, be greedy, and screw over people. Do you think people get rich by lacking greed?
You are not "them" you will never be "them". Don't act like you're in their club. Owners are greedier than the players.Comment -
How can you say Bell is fukking himself? Only Bell can answer that question. He's not taking chances of getting hurt without a long term deal. Every week he doesn't play, is a week he can't get hurt. We shall soon see if anyone will pay him what he really thinks he's worth.
So NFL players can take standard deductions and that's going to really help them avoid taxes. Haha, you funny. They are ALL employees and receive a W-2. Sorry but no 1099 income unless they earn income doing something else, i.e., commercials, etc. The standard deductions are getting less and less while the tax rate keeps going up. Add the jock tax where the states want their cut as well. Players are paying a shit load of taxes up front. It's with held from their paychecks before they even see it.
EVERYONE DOES NOT PAY TAXES. Trump avoided taxes for years. The wealthiest people in the US, DO NOT PAY TAXES. The ones that are rich pay some taxes but a lot less than the middle class. These owners are not paying much in taxes.Comment -
The Steelers have averaged 43 yards rushing a game the last 3 games... 43 TOTAL RUSHING YARDS.
You are absolutely crazy if you don't think Bell's stock has risen these last few weeks. Steelers running game looks like shit. The offensive line looks like shit.Comment -
Ugh.
Mac. Wealthy people pay a ton of taxes. Trump avoided paying taxes for a bit because he lost 900 million dollars.
Standard deductions doubled this year. However, if NFL players have decent advisors, they are doing all kinds of things to generate write offs and are itemizing rather than taking standard deductions. Do you really want to know? Read this. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/th...ble-2016-07-27
As far as Bell goes, yes. Time will tell. We will see who was right sooon enough.Comment -
if i made $15 an hour and i DONT flip off my boss when hes a dick. I see both sides here... What am I missing? grow upComment -
I’m all for Bells decision but wouldn’t it kinda be funny if he tore his acl getting out of bedComment -
Which is why he just like ALL NFL players need long term deals. They are all one injury away from their careers being over. There's not too many depressing sights than seeing a guy that had all the talent in the world but couldn't realize it anymore due to nagging injuries. Imagine what Bo Jackson could have been as a baseball player?Comment -
Many wealthy people pay NO tax. Trump didn't pay taxes for 18 years. Eighteen years...
In 2011, for instance, about 433,000 tax filers with incomes over $100,000 paid no federal income tax, according to estimates based on limited IRS data by the Tax Policy Center, a nonprofit think tank. That number includes approximately 4,000 filers with an income of $1 million or more.
I read that article. Josh Martin made $575k salary and $70k in endorsements. His write offs were minuscule. It totaled just $75k, pretty much what he made in endorsements. In other words, he got taxed on 100% of his salary, just like most other athletes who are at the top bracket. They do not enjoy the tax benefits of the rich. They are high paid employees on a W2. So a guy like Bell gets a fictitious $70M contract, which he'll never see half of it guaranteed, then he's taxed another half of that before he even sees a dime. $70M is more like $16M over several years. That's the truth. Unfortunately, most of these guys believe they have $70M, when they never did and worst of all, they think the money is going to always keep coming in, when we all know that it won't. Guys are then in for a rude awakening that their game checks are gone and they have no way to make additional money.Comment -
Not true. You know I am not a forever Trump guy. But damn. Stop listening to Rachel Maddow. Google is your friend.
I am not sad for a guy who gets paid a boatload to play a professional sport and has to pay his taxes. Give me a break. Do you want high income earners to pay their damn taxes or not??? WTF is wrong with you? You want high income earners to pay their taxes UNLESS they play football?I read that article. Josh Martin made $575k salary and $70k in endorsements. His write offs were minuscule. It totaled just $75k, pretty much what he made in endorsements. In other words, he got taxed on 100% of his salary, just like most other athletes who are at the top bracket. They do not enjoy the tax benefits of the rich. They are high paid employees on a W2. So a guy like Bell gets a fictitious $70M contract, which he'll never see half of it guaranteed, then he's taxed another half of that before he even sees a dime. $70M is more like $16M over several years. That's the truth. Unfortunately, most of these guys believe they have $70M, when they never did and worst of all, they think the money is going to always keep coming in, when we all know that it won't. Guys are then in for a rude awakening that their game checks are gone and they have no way to make additional money.
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