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  • clockwise1965
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    • 10-01-13
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    #36
    Overrated.
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    • lakerboy
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      • 04-02-09
      • 94379

      #37
      Originally posted by gauchojake
      no but I would give up Ball and KCP in a heartbeat for Butler
      Well if they are dumb enough to do that then yes
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      • JIBBBY
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        • 12-10-09
        • 83686

        #38
        Originally posted by lakerboy
        I don't see the wolves taking lonzo. They probably want Ingram. I can't let Ingram and kuzma go. You think it's good to let either go?
        Everyone wants Ingram in a trade.. He's gonna be the next mini Kevin Durant if he keeps improving year to year which he has been doing.. Lakers need to keep that young talent..
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        • lakerboy
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          • 04-02-09
          • 94379

          #39
          Originally posted by JIBBBY
          Everyone wants Ingram in a trade.. He's gonna be the next mini Kevin Durant if he keeps improving year to year which he has been doing.. Lakers need to keep that young talent..
          Agreed. Ingram should be untouchable
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          • Auto Donk
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            • 09-03-13
            • 43558

            #40
            i love the guy, mainly because he's a hometown product of the school my son went to, and step son still goes to......

            wouldn't mind seeing him in a rockets uniform.....

            crowd would love him
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            • clockwise1965
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              • 10-01-13
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              #41
              Overrated..
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              • SharpAngles
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                • 04-15-14
                • 9467

                #42
                Originally posted by IBetYou
                Ball & KCP for Butler works imo. As a soon to be FA the T'Wolves wont get much more for him than that.
                In what universe would Minny make that deal? Replace Pope with Kuzma or Ingram and you’ve got a deal that works for them but the Lakers aren’t making that deal either.

                As a Lakers fan I hope Butler ends up with the Clippers.
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                • IBetYou
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                  • 07-03-15
                  • 8158

                  #43
                  This universe. That's a starting backcourt there. The alternative is he plays out the season and walks.
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                  • ChiLLx
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                    • 12-24-11
                    • 5412

                    #44
                    So Thibs traded all those guys to the Bulls for Butler and now going to trade him again. Maybe Thibs will trade for Luol Deng and Omer Asik
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                    • gauchojake
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                      • 09-17-10
                      • 34116

                      #45
                      Originally posted by ChiLLx
                      So Thibs traded all those guys to the Bulls for Butler and now going to trade him again. Maybe Thibs will trade for Luol Deng and Omer Asik
                      I believe Luol Deng signed with the T Wolves as a FA after the Lakers waived/stretched his contract
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                      • The Kraken
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                        • 12-25-11
                        • 28918

                        #46
                        Heard he’s gonna sign with the Patriots
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                        • Grits n' Gravy
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                          • 06-10-10
                          • 13024

                          #47
                          Originally posted by ChiLLx
                          So Thibs traded all those guys to the Bulls for Butler and now going to trade him again. Maybe Thibs will trade for Luol Deng and Omer Asik
                          He just signed deng. lol

                          Of the 3 teams he supposedly is open to being dealt to, the clips can give wolves the best return in players. A combo of Bradley, Harris, Beverly, Johnson or Williams isn’t bad to surround Kat with. Have to think they would prefer to ship him east though.

                          Ny has picks to offer but who would wolves get back? Knicks would love to dump hardaway and his deal but no shot. Kanter’s deal expires after season and matches up with butler’s contract. Possibly a fit. Gives Minny cap relief in 19. Throw in a few future 1sts and maybe it gets done.

                          Brooklyn would have to get rid of deangelo Williams in any deal. I can’t see butler wanting to play with him. They have very little talent/reasonable contract to give back though. A 3rd team would need to get him to bk in my opinion.
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                          • JIBBBY
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                            • 12-10-09
                            • 83686

                            #48
                            Is Jimmy Butler even that good? I kinda think he's a bit overrated myself.. Good 2 way player but not great.. Don't think he could be the top player on any NBA team right now.. A solid number 2 on some of the weak teams for sure though..

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                            • rollie_t651
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                              • 10-18-14
                              • 873

                              #49
                              As a lifelong Wolves fan and former season ticket holder, I'm not surprised by this news. I just hope Thibs can trade his favorite player and the Wolves get something instead of nothing.
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                              • MinnesotaFats
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                                • 12-18-10
                                • 14758

                                #50
                                Ok

                                Turns out Jimmy banged KATs gal, source of friction

                                This ain't trading Butler, he'll quit before he does that

                                Jimmy and Kawhi headed to Clippers next year
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                                • ikid2groove415
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                                  • 01-08-18
                                  • 11981

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by rollie_t651
                                  As a lifelong Wolves fan and former season ticket holder, I'm not surprised by this news. I just hope Thibs can trade his favorite player and the Wolves get something instead of nothing.
                                  Minnesota pass up on Steph curry twice in the draft- just saying ...
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                                  • Seto
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                                    • 12-16-11
                                    • 12906

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by gauchojake
                                    no but I would give up Ball and KCP in a heartbeat for Butler
                                    Don't think they can trade KCP until December or January...
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                                    • Seto
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                                      • 12-16-11
                                      • 12906

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                      Is Jimmy Butler even that good? I kinda think he's a bit overrated myself.. Good 2 way player but not great.. Don't think he could be the top player on any NBA team right now.. A solid number 2 on some of the weak teams for sure though..

                                      Lol this site is hilarious as ever.

                                      Name 1 player better than Butler on the Cavs, Heat, Pistons, Hornets, Nets, Bulls, Magic, Hawks, Spurs, Clippers, Kings, Mavs, Grizzlies or Suns... That's almost half the league right there.

                                      And he's probably better than anyone on the Pacers, Knicks, Wizards, Blazers, Jazz, Nuggets as well. So yeah that's 2/3 of the league.

                                      And you could make a reasonable argument to tack on 3 or 4 more teams.

                                      Andrew Wiggins is an absolute bum, that team had no shooting, no bench and he turned them from a 31 win team into a 47 win team, and they were on pace for 50 and the 3 seed before he got hurt. And don't say "the young guys had 1 more year of experience" because NONE of their young guys made a jump last year, even KAT was basically the same (very good) player he was the year before. WTF more did you want out of the guy? Turn them into a 55/60-win team? He's not LeBron James either, let's not go crazy. But he's definitely an elite player and there are only 6 guys clearly better than him, LeBron, KD, AD, Steph, Harden and (healthy) Kawhi. Vs everyone else, there is at the very least a debate.
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                                      • d2bets
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                                        • 08-10-05
                                        • 39995

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by Seto
                                        Lol this site is hilarious as ever.

                                        Name 1 player better than Butler on the Cavs, Heat, Pistons, Hornets, Nets, Bulls, Magic, Hawks, Spurs, Clippers, Kings, Mavs, Grizzlies or Suns... That's almost half the league right there.

                                        And he's probably better than anyone on the Pacers, Knicks, Wizards, Blazers, Jazz, Nuggets as well. So yeah that's 2/3 of the league.

                                        And you could make a reasonable argument to tack on 3 or 4 more teams.

                                        Andrew Wiggins is an absolute bum, that team had no shooting, no bench and he turned them from a 31 win team into a 47 win team, and they were on pace for 50 and the 3 seed before he got hurt. And don't say "the young guys had 1 more year of experience" because NONE of their young guys made a jump last year, even KAT was basically the same (very good) player he was the year before. WTF more did you want out of the guy? Turn them into a 55/60-win team? He's not LeBron James either, let's not go crazy. But he's definitely an elite player and there are only 6 guys clearly better than him, LeBron, KD, AD, Steph, Harden and (healthy) Kawhi. Vs everyone else, there is at the very least a debate.
                                        You definitely forgot Giannis.
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                                        • Bluehorseshoe
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                                          • 07-13-06
                                          • 15003

                                          #55
                                          I already grabbed over the Clips total wins. Too easy.
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                                          • IBetYou
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                                            • 07-03-15
                                            • 8158

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Seto
                                            Lol this site is hilarious as ever.

                                            Name 1 player better than Butler on the Cavs, Heat, Pistons, Hornets, Nets, Bulls, Magic, Hawks, Spurs, Clippers, Kings, Mavs, Grizzlies or Suns... That's almost half the league right there.

                                            And he's probably better than anyone on the Pacers, Knicks, Wizards, Blazers, Jazz, Nuggets as well. So yeah that's 2/3 of the league.

                                            And you could make a reasonable argument to tack on 3 or 4 more teams.

                                            Andrew Wiggins is an absolute bum, that team had no shooting, no bench and he turned them from a 31 win team into a 47 win team, and they were on pace for 50 and the 3 seed before he got hurt. And don't say "the young guys had 1 more year of experience" because NONE of their young guys made a jump last year, even KAT was basically the same (very good) player he was the year before. WTF more did you want out of the guy? Turn them into a 55/60-win team? He's not LeBron James either, let's not go crazy. But he's definitely an elite player and there are only 6 guys clearly better than him, LeBron, KD, AD, Steph, Harden and (healthy) Kawhi. Vs everyone else, there is at the very least a debate.
                                            I'd say he's on par with D.DeRozan, and that P.George is a step above those two (all 3 of which were on the most recent Olympic team). When you start bringing in point guards & bigs into the conversation it gets more complicated because value at a position is determined by the competition at that spot.
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                                            • ikid2groove415
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                                              • 01-08-18
                                              • 11981

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by IBetYou
                                              I'd say he's on par with D.DeRozan, and that P.George is a step above those two (all 3 of which were on the most recent Olympic team). When you start bringing in point guards & bigs into the conversation it gets more complicated because value at a position is determined by the competition at that spot.
                                              Laughable comparison-Derozan plays zero defense - butler is a much more valuable player- He’s not a guy 2 lead a team - but definitely a important part on a championship team -
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                                              • IBetYou
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                                                • 07-03-15
                                                • 8158

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                                                Laughable comparison-Derozan plays zero defense - butler is a much more valuable player- He’s not a guy 2 lead a team - but definitely a important part on a championship team -
                                                Well I'm glad I amused you. It's mostly subjective. There's my opinion - the correct one - and there's everyone else's.
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                                                • JIBBBY
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                                                  • 12-10-09
                                                  • 83686

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by Seto
                                                  Lol this site is hilarious as ever.

                                                  Name 1 player better than Butler on the Cavs, Heat, Pistons, Hornets, Nets, Bulls, Magic, Hawks, Spurs, Clippers, Kings, Mavs, Grizzlies or Suns... That's almost half the league right there.

                                                  And he's probably better than anyone on the Pacers, Knicks, Wizards, Blazers, Jazz, Nuggets as well. So yeah that's 2/3 of the league.

                                                  And you could make a reasonable argument to tack on 3 or 4 more teams.

                                                  Andrew Wiggins is an absolute bum, that team had no shooting, no bench and he turned them from a 31 win team into a 47 win team, and they were on pace for 50 and the 3 seed before he got hurt. And don't say "the young guys had 1 more year of experience" because NONE of their young guys made a jump last year, even KAT was basically the same (very good) player he was the year before. WTF more did you want out of the guy? Turn them into a 55/60-win team? He's not LeBron James either, let's not go crazy. But he's definitely an elite player and there are only 6 guys clearly better than him, LeBron, KD, AD, Steph, Harden and (healthy) Kawhi. Vs everyone else, there is at the very least a debate.
                                                  I can name one player on each of those teams you mentioned that are questionably as good or better then Jimmy.. You're giving Jimmy Butler to much credit...

                                                  Cavs - Kevin Love is arguably better then Jimmy Butler
                                                  Heat - Whiteside is arguably better then Jimmy Butler
                                                  Pistons - Blake Griffin is arguably better then Jimmy Butler

                                                  Etc... I can go on and on.. Like I said he's number 2 best player on mostly every NBA team..
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                                                  • ikid2groove415
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                                                    • 01-08-18
                                                    • 11981

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                    I can name one player on each of those teams you mentioned that are questionably as good or better then Jimmy.. You're giving Jimmy Butler to much credit...

                                                    Cavs - Kevin Love is arguably better then Jimmy Butler
                                                    Heat - Whiteside is arguably better then Jimmy Butler
                                                    Pistons - Blake Griffin is arguably better then Jimmy Butler

                                                    Etc... I can go on and on.. Like I said he's number 2 best player on mostly every NBA team..
                                                    Lol
                                                    Jibbs are you serious? None of those guys you name is better then butler especially Blake/love - they are both terrible defensive players - Love was bench by the Cavs in the finals lol
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                                                    • JIBBBY
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                                                      • 12-10-09
                                                      • 83686

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                                                      Lol
                                                      Jibbs are you serious? None of those guys you name is better then butler especially Blake/love - they are both terrible defensive players - Love was bench by the Cavs in the finals lol
                                                      Kevin Love is a better rebounder and scorer and shooter then Butler IMO... Kevin Love won an NBA title.. Puts him in the same light as Butler at worse if not better..

                                                      Blake Griffin is still a very good all star caliber player.. I'd say Blake Griffin is slightly better then Jimmy Butler... Blake will be the leading scorer on the Pistons next year and he will have better number then Jimmy Butler if I had to guess..
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                                                      • Bluehorseshoe
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                                                        • 07-13-06
                                                        • 15003

                                                        #62
                                                        There is a "real possibility" Jimmy Butler may not report to training camp if a trade has not been consummated, according to Jon Krawczynski of The Athletic.
                                                        Earlier, Woj reported that the Wolves are shutting down trade offers on Butler right now, so it would appear Butler is willing to take his trade request to another level. It sounds like this relationship is beyond repair, but the Wolves may not be willing to accommodate Jimmy's list of the Clippers, Nets and Knicks as possible destinations. If Butler is still on the roster for most of camp, it'll create a major distraction for the team. Expect several updates this weekend.
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                                                        • packerd_00
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                                                          • 05-22-13
                                                          • 17811

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by d2bets
                                                          So pretty much NBA players.
                                                          Joakim Noah use to be unique for his hustle.
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                                                          • packerd_00
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                                                            • 05-22-13
                                                            • 17811

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by Seto
                                                            Lol this site is hilarious as ever.

                                                            Name 1 player better than Butler on the Cavs, Heat, Pistons, Hornets, Nets, Bulls, Magic, Hawks, Spurs, Clippers, Kings, Mavs, Grizzlies or Suns... That's almost half the league right there.

                                                            And he's probably better than anyone on the Pacers, Knicks, Wizards, Blazers, Jazz, Nuggets as well. So yeah that's 2/3 of the league.

                                                            And you could make a reasonable argument to tack on 3 or 4 more teams.

                                                            Andrew Wiggins is an absolute bum, that team had no shooting, no bench and he turned them from a 31 win team into a 47 win team, and they were on pace for 50 and the 3 seed before he got hurt. And don't say "the young guys had 1 more year of experience" because NONE of their young guys made a jump last year, even KAT was basically the same (very good) player he was the year before. WTF more did you want out of the guy? Turn them into a 55/60-win team? He's not LeBron James either, let's not go crazy. But he's definitely an elite player and there are only 6 guys clearly better than him, LeBron, KD, AD, Steph, Harden and (healthy) Kawhi. Vs everyone else, there is at the very least a debate.
                                                            Your gonna just overlook Damian Lillard.
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                                                            • ikid2groove415
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                                                              • 01-08-18
                                                              • 11981

                                                              #65
                                                              Butler is not elite - his offense is average at best - - he’s good like klay/pg but not elite (seto let the big boys talk hoops- take notes rookie)
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                                                              • packerd_00
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                                                                • 05-22-13
                                                                • 17811

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
                                                                There is a "real possibility" Jimmy Butler may not report to training camp if a trade has not been consummated, according to Jon Krawczynski of The Athletic.
                                                                Earlier, Woj reported that the Wolves are shutting down trade offers on Butler right now, so it would appear Butler is willing to take his trade request to another level. It sounds like this relationship is beyond repair, but the Wolves may not be willing to accommodate Jimmy's list of the Clippers, Nets and Knicks as possible destinations. If Butler is still on the roster for most of camp, it'll create a major distraction for the team. Expect several updates this weekend.
                                                                Seems more like he's bored of living in Minnesota.
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                                                                • ikid2groove415
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                                                                  • 01-08-18
                                                                  • 11981

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by packerd_00
                                                                  Seems more like he's bored of living in Minnesota.
                                                                  He wants 2 be the number 1 option? When he’s clearly not- Towns offense is way better then butler
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                                                                  • packerd_00
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                                                                    • 05-22-13
                                                                    • 17811

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                                                                    He wants 2 be the number 1 option? When he’s clearly not- Towns offense is way better then butler
                                                                    Two birds with one stone mate,I never thought of Butler as a number one,he's always been a good complimentary player.Thats fine,some players are just meant to be a good side kick but never the top guy.
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                                                                    • ikid2groove415
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                                                                      • 01-08-18
                                                                      • 11981

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by packerd_00
                                                                      Two birds with one stone mate,I never thought of Butler as a number one,he's always been a good complimentary player.Thats fine,some players are just meant to be a good side kick but never the top guy.
                                                                      Butler is a valuable player - he can guard athletic wing players - especially in Today’s NBA you need perimeter defense- with everyone taking 3s - Agree with you he’s a good 2-3 option - definitely not a 1
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                                                                      • SharpAngles
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                                                                        • 04-15-14
                                                                        • 9467

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                        I can name one player on each of those teams you mentioned that are questionably as good or better then Jimmy.. You're giving Jimmy Butler to much credit...

                                                                        Cavs - Kevin Love is arguably better then Jimmy Butler
                                                                        Heat - Whiteside is arguably better then Jimmy Butler
                                                                        Pistons - Blake Griffin is arguably better then Jimmy Butler

                                                                        Etc... I can go on and on.. Like I said he's number 2 best player on mostly every NBA team..
                                                                        How much of that recreational Cali weed are you smoking?
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