LeVeon Bell giving up $853,000 is asinine.

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  • ikid2groove415
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    • 01-08-18
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    #281
    Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
    What is connor doing that Bell never did??? The Steelers potent passing game is why Connor has been getting open running lanes.

    GM's are always looking to upgrade the roster. If the cheap ass Steelers were willing to cough up $14 million, surely another franchise will pay more. Frank Gore still balling in Miami totally dispels the myth that RBs can't play for long.
    Just means RB isn’t a important position- But nobody can denied bell talent when he’s on the field - Conner is not better - enough with the stats - bell is much more explosive
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    • AlgoLady
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      • 10-31-18
      • 96

      #282
      Yea because stats don't matter no reason to look at those. Gotta love the because he's explosive comments always cracks me up, You do realize Conor already has 11 total TD's so far this year and that ties the most Bell has ever had in 1 season and we still have close to a half a season left. Bells longest rush was 27 yards in 2017 before he got injured when he was needed the most, so let's slow down on the explosive talk, He's a great running back not saying he's not but he ain't worth what he thinks he is when this kid is putting up better numbers and playing for 400k sorry they don't pay you $70 million guaranteed just because your "explosive".
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      • MinnesotaFats
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        • 12-18-10
        • 14758

        #283
        Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
        You are obviously blinded by your fandom. Connor isn't in the same area code as Bell. Bell is a once in a decade RB. If you can't see that, you aren't really qualified to comment because you bleed black and gold. Bell did what he thought was best for him and Steeler fans are pissed because they want him to do what is best for the team. Charity always starts at home. Let the man do what the fukk he wants to do. It could totally backfire on him but he's his own man and has to make his own decisions.

        Connor isn't a distraction today. Give him a few years of getting fukked by a cheap ass Steeler franchise and lets see if he becomes a distraction?? The Steelers have fukked over 90% of their players by short changing them. Just ask Franco Harris.
        I agree that Bell is a once in a decade RB but dont you think that decade is now the past....his best years in the mirror? He'll be 27/28 next year I mean really what's left in the tank?

        Yes he could be one of the few that produce past 30 but in reality you would be betting contractually that his next 2 years could be as productive and injury free. Who is going to give him a contract beyond age 30 w any guaranties?
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        • lonegambler23
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          • 06-22-16
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          #284
          i hope he never sees another down in football again.
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          • Mac4Lyfe
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            • 01-04-09
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            #285
            Originally posted by Chi_archie
            decent chance he would have gotten that if he played every game this year while collecting 14.5 million dollars
            which is an immense gamble considering he has to date only made a bit over 16 million in his career over the past 5 years.
            if Bell is really that much better than Conner, consider the potential numbers Bell could have put up on this talented team behind that line.
            his contract offers for 2019 would have been much more attractive. Now he's added quite a few question marks to NFL exec's minds in order to get a %100 garauntee that he would not get a football injury this year.
            Some of you guys are so gullible. The Steelers had ZERO intentions of signing Bell again next year. Do you know how much it would have cost them to franchise him 3 years in a row? IT WAS NOT HAPPENING. The Steelers were going to run his dick into the dirt this year. Burn him the fukk out then throw him to the scrap heap. That was their plan. This was his last year Pittsburgh. They wanted to him to play this year so that Connor could be the back up. So, he plays this year like you say and gets burned out like Demarco Murray (exact fukking situation). He's out of the league in 1 year to 2 years tops. He sits out this year and can get at least 3 maybe 4 more years with someone else. You guys see $14 million when he sees at least $45 million. He could be like all the other dummies that play for short sighted money or be smart and protect his long term interest. Look at Brian Cushing. Another smart mofo that was able to get more money out of a corrupt system.
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            • Mac4Lyfe
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              • 01-04-09
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              #286
              Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
              I agree that Bell is a once in a decade RB but dont you think that decade is now the past....his best years in the mirror? He'll be 27/28 next year I mean really what's left in the tank?

              Yes he could be one of the few that produce past 30 but in reality you would be betting contractually that his next 2 years could be as productive and injury free. Who is going to give him a contract beyond age 30 w any guaranties?
              He's 26 right now. There is no way in hell he's 28 next year (his birthday is in February). He is in the prime of his career. His best years are clearly ahead of him not behind. He easily has 3 or 4 more years in him but not when the Steelers plan was to run him into the ground.

              You said it best... Who is going to give him a long term contract beyond 30? Probably no one, which is why he has to seek one right now. The Steelers obviously weren't going to give it to him, so it was time to move on. Why people are pissed at Bell and not the cheap ass Steelers that are clearly known to fukk over their players is beyond me. Pay the man or let him go get paid. Stop throwing shade when the Steelers wouldn't step up in the first place.
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              • jjgold
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                • 07-20-05
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                #287
                Bottom line Pittsburgh did not miss a beat running backs are a diamond dozen please stop embarrassing yourselves
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                • thechaoz
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                  • 10-23-09
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                  #288
                  Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                  He's 26 right now. There is no way in hell he's 28 next year (his birthday is in February). He is in the prime of his career. His best years are clearly ahead of him not behind. He easily has 3 or 4 more years in him but not when the Steelers plan was to run him into the ground.

                  You said it best... Who is going to give him a long term contract beyond 30? Probably no one, which is why he has to seek one right now. The Steelers obviously weren't going to give it to him, so it was time to move on. Why people are pissed at Bell and not the cheap ass Steelers that are clearly known to fukk over their players is beyond me. Pay the man or let him go get paid. Stop throwing shade when the Steelers wouldn't step up in the first place.
                  He will get 5 years 50 million Guaranteed.

                  He's a RB/WR/scatback and Conner is benefiting from a the best OL in the league.

                  Bell is an elite talent with an extra year of rest.
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                  • thechaoz
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                    • 10-23-09
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                    #289
                    Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                    He's 26 right now. There is no way in hell he's 28 next year (his birthday is in February). He is in the prime of his career. His best years are clearly ahead of him not behind. He easily has 3 or 4 more years in him but not when the Steelers plan was to run him into the ground.

                    You said it best... Who is going to give him a long term contract beyond 30? Probably no one, which is why he has to seek one right now. The Steelers obviously weren't going to give it to him, so it was time to move on. Why people are pissed at Bell and not the cheap ass Steelers that are clearly known to fukk over their players is beyond me. Pay the man or let him go get paid. Stop throwing shade when the Steelers wouldn't step up in the first place.
                    Mac is killing this thread. If Bell was 31 it'd be different, but this next contract is his last big contract period.
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                    • ikid2groove415
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                      • 01-08-18
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                      #290
                      Pair my men bell up with jimmy G and Shanny calling plays -
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                      • thechaoz
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                        • 10-23-09
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                        #291
                        Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                        Pair my men bell up with jimmy G and Shanny calling plays -
                        I'd love it, and we have the cap, but we have so many holes.

                        Edit: Weed is also legal in Cali
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                        • ikid2groove415
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                          • 01-08-18
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                          #292
                          I would be the first 2 say- if Pittsburgh had no running game? They would still killed you with there passing attack - Big Ben got weapons everywhere
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                          • ikid2groove415
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                            • 01-08-18
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                            #293
                            Originally posted by thechaoz
                            I'd love it, and we have the cap, but we have so many holes.

                            Edit: Weed is also legal in Cali
                            Defense is overrated - watch the super bowl last season - Rules all towards offense now
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                            • maggiethebestdog
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                              • 12-21-13
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                              #294
                              Who really cares

                              Bell is doing what he has to do and I don't blame him

                              The Steelers tried to use him and it worked out just fine for them because the on field result is no different

                              As of today, I would still rather have Gurley or Hunt because they are less of a risk and are just as dynamic

                              Who cares

                              We will also see how much someone is willing to pay him and how productive he is on another team
                              Last edited by maggiethebestdog; 11-13-18, 11:08 PM.
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                              • Git Lo
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                                • 02-20-11
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                                #295
                                tbh he never gave the steelers an inch idk if on purpose because he never got a deal but he was suspended majority of his first year, and got injured before/during playoffs. he really doesnt have that many miles on him, he played this well from the start
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                                • dbear808
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                                  • 02-16-11
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                                  #296
                                  Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                  great thing about Bell, if he actually can get off the drugs and back into shape is that he could be a legit #1 WR on half the NFL, he has that special and diverse of a skill set.

                                  So a team Like the Bears with next generation type offensive thinking, could take a guy like Bell and totally transform how the position and offenses are schemed.

                                  Bears should have a decent amount of $ since they aren't paying the QB position much yet
                                  Right division, wrong team. Imagine how dynamic the Packers' offense would be with a healthy Rogers and a rested/motivated Bell. The Packers' dominance of that division is quickly coming to an end if they don't do something to give Rogers more weapons.
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                                  • maggiethebestdog
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                                    • 12-21-13
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                                    #297
                                    Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                    Who really cares

                                    Bell is doing what he has to do and I don't blame him

                                    The Steelers tried to use him and it worked out just fine for them because the on field result is no different

                                    As of today, I would still rather have Gurley or Hunt because they are less of a risk and are just as dynamic

                                    Who cares

                                    We will also see how much someone is willing to pay him and how productive he is on another team
                                    I forgot about Alvin Kamara as well
                                    Running back talent just is not in shortage like other positions which decreases their leverage when it come to negotiations

                                    The Steelers did try and screw Bell but apparently it will not really hurt them
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                                    • Mac4Lyfe
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                                      • 01-04-09
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                                      #298
                                      Originally posted by Git Lo
                                      tbh he never gave the steelers an inch idk if on purpose because he never got a deal but he was suspended majority of his first year, and got injured before/during playoffs. he really doesnt have that many miles on him, he played this well from the start
                                      The Steelers had all the power. The franchise tag is the most ridiculous rules in all of professional sports. You are basically holding a player hostage without any long term incentives or guarantees. It sucks to be franchised for one year but 2 years and you are fukkked because no way in hell are they going to do it for a 3rd year. You are on a one year deal where if you get hurt, you are totally fukked. You need the money but you are taking a horrible risk, especially at that position. It's a horseshit contract that is all in favor of the owners. NO PLAYER EVER wants to be franchised because you are basically screwed. The Steelers had all the power to make Bell a long term deal that would have given him the security of playing without fear of injury but they wouldn't do it. They offered him a back loaded contract that was not what he was worth. He knew once training camp was over that his career in Pitt was done. There was no turning back. He never gave them an inch because the Steelers fukked him by the yard. An yet, he's the bad guy by dumb ass fans that do not give a shit about him or his future. Some in this thread are praying that he has a career ending injury. How nice of them.
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                                      • Mac4Lyfe
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                                        • 01-04-09
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                                        #299
                                        Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                        I forgot about Alvin Kamara as well
                                        Running back talent just is not in shortage like other positions which decreases their leverage when it come to negotiations
                                        The Steelers did try and screw Bell but apparently it will not really hurt them
                                        If Connor goes down, good luck trotting out Jaylen Samuels during the AFC Championship game. Karma has a weird way of biting you in the ass.
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                                        • Git Lo
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                                          • 02-20-11
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                                          #300
                                          Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                          The Steelers had all the power. The franchise tag is the most ridiculous rules in all of professional sports. You are basically holding a player hostage without any long term incentives or guarantees. It sucks to be franchised for one year but 2 years and you are fukkked because no way in hell are they going to do it for a 3rd year. You are on a one year deal where if you get hurt, you are totally fukked. You need the money but you are taking a horrible risk, especially at that position. It's a horseshit contract that is all in favor of the owners. NO PLAYER EVER wants to be franchised because you are basically screwed. The Steelers had all the power to make Bell a long term deal that would have given him the security of playing without fear of injury but they wouldn't do it. They offered him a back loaded contract that was not what he was worth. He knew once training camp was over that his career in Pitt was done. There was no turning back. He never gave them an inch because the Steelers fukked him by the yard. An yet, he's the bad guy by dumb ass fans that do not give a shit about him or his future. Some in this thread are praying that he has a career ending injury. How nice of them.
                                          Oh yea I knew all that I'm saying bell played this well from his rookie year, getting suspended and not playing in the playoffs, it saved him for what he has to deal with now. It was a blessing in disguise everything that happened to him considering he really wants a contract
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                                          • floridagolfer
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                                            #301
                                            There are plenty of owners who'll throw money at Bell. Then he'll go fail a drug test; it's not like that hasn't happened before.
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                                            • unde0087
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                                              #302
                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                              Bottom line Pittsburgh did not miss a beat running backs are a diamond dozen please stop embarrassing yourselves
                                              Spot on. Guy made himself look like an idiot. He thought he would sit out and watch Steelers come begging to him when they faltered. Instead they just plugged in the next guy, who is having a monster season, and Steelers don't even notice he is gone. Now he not only cost himself millions but no one on the team wants his greedy ass around anymore. Hence why he didn't bother reporting.
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                                              • INVEGA MAN
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                                                #303
                                                He was a no show because he had weed still in his system. Why do you think he came to pgh last week? He came in to play but found out weed was still in his system.
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                                                • thechaoz
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                                                  • 10-23-09
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                                                  #304
                                                  Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                                                  Defense is overrated - watch the super bowl last season - Rules all towards offense now
                                                  Paying max contracts to 28 year old RBs is also very overrated. He can be very effective but not at that lost. That's a browns/jets move.

                                                  I disagree completely. If it was all about offense the Packers/Steelers/Saints would have multiple rings and be in the big game every year.

                                                  NE is "just good enough", when Rodgers won the Defense was "'good enough", NE has a "pretty good" defense.

                                                  Manning was washed up and throwing ducks and got a superbowl with Defense (carolina also got their on their defense).

                                                  Seahawks went back to back and domianted with their defense. They should of won 2. If everyone is throwing the ball around the only differentiation is defense.

                                                  Notice how the Saints are putting it together this year because they actually have a pretty good D to finally put them over the top?

                                                  Last years Superbowl was an outlier, I think the teams were just wiped at that point.
                                                  Last edited by thechaoz; 11-14-18, 03:40 PM.
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                                                  • keely85
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                                                    • 01-04-15
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                                                    #305
                                                    How many fantasy leagues you think he’s still on someone’s bench
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                                                    • Bluehorseshoe
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                                                      • 07-13-06
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                                                      #306
                                                      Originally posted by floridagolfer
                                                      There are plenty of owners who'll throw money at Bell. Then he'll go fail a drug test; it's not like that hasn't happened before.
                                                      Steven A Smith made a point and I agree. Watch these NFL owners boycott him this off season to send a message to other players.
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                                                      • Chi_archie
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                                                        • 07-22-08
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                                                        #307
                                                        Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
                                                        Steven A Smith made a point and I agree. Watch these NFL owners boycott him this off season to send a message to other players.

                                                        wouldn't surprise me one bit

                                                        when it comes down to it, these players have amazing skills

                                                        but without a league, franchise, stadiums, fan base, rich white men owners, tv deals ect their marketable skills don't really make them much money elsewhere.

                                                        when you start thinking 14 million is not enough to run with a ball and play smear the queer, you might be setting yourself up for a rude awakening, when they under the table black ball event goes in.

                                                        we saw that past off season a pretty concerted effort by MLB owners to scale back the record $ contracts.
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                                                        • thechaoz
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                                                          • 10-23-09
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                                                          #308
                                                          Originally posted by keely85
                                                          How many fantasy leagues you think he’s still on someone’s bench
                                                          In anything that isn't keeper or legacy, 0
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                                                          • thechaoz
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                                                            • 10-23-09
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                                                            #309
                                                            Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                            wouldn't surprise me one bit

                                                            when it comes down to it, these players have amazing skills

                                                            but without a league, franchise, stadiums, fan base, rich white men owners, tv deals ect their marketable skills don't really make them much money elsewhere.

                                                            when you start thinking 14 million is not enough to run with a ball and play smear the queer, you might be setting yourself up for a rude awakening, when they under the table black ball event goes in.

                                                            we saw that past off season a pretty concerted effort by MLB owners to scale back the record $ contracts.
                                                            this will never happen, and Bell in the end will end up winning this though he had to really play hard ball.

                                                            The simple fact is it is economics. Bell puts asses in the seats, he gets eyes on the screen, and he sells jerseys and gear like no one else. Even if he was some aged out vet , for teams like the Jets, he would be a plus monetarily.

                                                            I got to admit I think he's kind of crazy, but at the same time as a poker player, God damn I respect him.

                                                            He kept a year of brutality off his body, and is going to get 60 million plus guaranteed next year, and gets to choose where he goes and not play for the franchise who just wanted to run him into the ground.
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                                                            • AlgoLady
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                                                              • 10-31-18
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                                                              #310
                                                              Originally posted by thechaoz
                                                              this will never happen, and Bell in the end will end up winning this though he had to really play hard ball.

                                                              The simple fact is it is economics. Bell puts asses in the seats, he gets eyes on the screen, and he sells jerseys and gear like no one else. Even if he was some aged out vet , for teams like the Jets, he would be a plus monetarily.

                                                              I got to admit I think he's kind of crazy, but at the same time as a poker player, God damn I respect him.

                                                              He kept a year of brutality off his body, and is going to get 60 million plus guaranteed next year, and gets to choose where he goes and not play for the franchise who just wanted to run him into the ground.
                                                              He's not going to get $60 million guaranteed Steelers offered him $17 million guaranteed with a signing bonus which obv he declined he said he would have signed if the offer was in the $30-40 million guaranteed range no chance he gets close to 60 million guaranteed.
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                                                              • Git Lo
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                                                                #311
                                                                Originally posted by thechaoz
                                                                this will never happen, and Bell in the end will end up winning this though he had to really play hard ball.

                                                                The simple fact is it is economics. Bell puts asses in the seats, he gets eyes on the screen, and he sells jerseys and gear like no one else. Even if he was some aged out vet , for teams like the Jets, he would be a plus monetarily.

                                                                I got to admit I think he's kind of crazy, but at the same time as a poker player, God damn I respect him.

                                                                He kept a year of brutality off his body, and is going to get 60 million plus guaranteed next year, and gets to choose where he goes and not play for the franchise who just wanted to run him into the ground.
                                                                its so simple, isnt it?
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                                                                • jtoler
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                                                                  #312
                                                                  think someone may give bell what he wants its a long offseason and time for a lot of negotiations. hate seeing players in other unis though after youve seen them for so long on one team gonna feel weird seeing him play for someone else
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                                                                  • Kermit
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                                                                    #313
                                                                    Originally posted by thechaoz

                                                                    He kept a year of brutality off his body, and is going to get 60 million plus guaranteed next year, and gets to choose where he goes and not play for the franchise who just wanted to run him into the ground.
                                                                    He might as well sit out next year too and keep another year of brutality off of his body.
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                                                                    • Kermit
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                                                                      #314
                                                                      Originally posted by jtoler
                                                                      speculate much, its kinda easy to get weed out of your system
                                                                      Apparently it isn't, otherwise players wouldn't keep getting popped for it. Or maybe they are just too stupid or ignorant to know how to play the weed game.
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                                                                      • The Giant
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                                                                        #315
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