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  • 19th Hole
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-22-09
    • 18954

    #106
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    • 19th Hole
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-22-09
      • 18954

      #107
      Originally posted by ikid2groove415
      This was before pop sent ginobli and Parker after him
      Sharp.
      The impetus of Leonard's movement. Pop misread him.
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      • 19th Hole
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 03-22-09
        • 18954

        #108
        Originally posted by 2daBank
        They have about as much chance to win the east as the do resigning him, as in next to zero.

        Craptors are perpetual also-rans.
        They will never catch the Celtics and after this upcoming season
        look for the Knicks to make major moves.

        Remember it's a Canadian NBA team.
        Igloo Toronto, Ontario
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        • ans61201
          SBR MVP
          • 10-11-15
          • 3661

          #109
          Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH
          wow, why would the Raptors do this. Seems he's headed to LA after next year anyway
          It’s a weird trade, but most likely you either convince Leonard to stay (not likely) or realize the DeRozan combo wasn’t going further then ceiling it reached and you get out of his deal, and rebuild.

          Odd they didn’t give it one more go around with Lebron, their mental block out of the east
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          • Roadtrip635
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 12-07-10
            • 6129

            #110
            Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
            Now if only there was another team in L.A. to play for.......
            That's it, Leonard has boxed himself into a corner. If he wants to play in LA and doesn't want to play with Lebron, why would the Clips need to offer top dollar? If he doesn't play close to his old level or does the wounded diva act this season, would they risk big money or a long term deal?
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            • USCPHILLYGUY
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-15-12
              • 21746

              #111
              Per Zack Lowe at ESPN

              Philadelphia's potential package of Robert Covington, Dario Saric, and the Heat's unprotected 2021 pick didn't move the needle. It's unclear if the Spurs had interest in Markelle Fultz; the two sides never discussed him seriously, and the Sixers would not have parted with him, sources say. The Spurs made it clear any deal with Philly would require Ben Simmons or Joel Embiid (likely Simmons), and the Sixers weren't going anywhere near that, league sources say.
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              • ikid2groove415
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 01-08-18
                • 11981

                #112
                Originally posted by uscphillyguy
                per zack lowe at espn

                philadelphia's potential package of robert covington, dario saric, and the heat's unprotected 2021 pick didn't move the needle. It's unclear if the spurs had interest in markelle fultz; the two sides never discussed him seriously, and the sixers would not have parted with him, sources say. The spurs made it clear any deal with philly would require ben simmons or joel embiid (likely simmons), and the sixers weren't going anywhere near that, league sources say.
                laughable-
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                • Regul8er
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 11-06-07
                  • 10666

                  #113
                  Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY
                  Per Zack Lowe at ESPN

                  Philadelphia's potential package of Robert Covington, Dario Saric, and the Heat's unprotected 2021 pick didn't move the needle. It's unclear if the Spurs had interest in Markelle Fultz; the two sides never discussed him seriously, and the Sixers would not have parted with him, sources say. The Spurs made it clear any deal with Philly would require Ben Simmons or Joel Embiid (likely Simmons), and the Sixers weren't going anywhere near that, league sources say.
                  Covington or Saric arent or never will be 20 PPG scorers.....this is what the Spurs wanted in return.
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                  • USCPHILLYGUY
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 12-15-12
                    • 21746

                    #114
                    Originally posted by Regul8er
                    Covington or Saric arent or never will be 20 PPG scorers.....this is what the Spurs wanted in return.
                    Your post would make sense if they only offered 1 of those players. They offered both (saric 14 ppg Covington 12). Spurs aren’t going anywhere and to also get an unprotected #1 in a year that HS players can also come out?
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                    • ikid2groove415
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 01-08-18
                      • 11981

                      #115
                      Sixers can not beat Toronto if Leonard is fully back - Danny green ain’t no scrub either -
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                      • Regul8er
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 11-06-07
                        • 10666

                        #116
                        Ya, but Derozan pretty much covers both of those totals by himself, lol

                        Were not talking about a combo that gets to 20PPG, were talking one player who gets there. Derozan fits that bill.
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                        • ikid2groove415
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-08-18
                          • 11981

                          #117
                          Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY
                          Your post would make sense if they only offered 1 of those players. They offered both (saric 14 ppg Covington 12). Spurs aren’t going anywhere and to also get an unprotected #1 in a year that HS players can also come out?
                          Both those guys can not score like derozan
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                          • Regul8er
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 11-06-07
                            • 10666

                            #118
                            From what I hear, San ANtonio made it very clear to all bidders what they wanted in return.
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                            • USCPHILLYGUY
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 12-15-12
                              • 21746

                              #119
                              Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                              Both those guys can not score like derozan
                              have not watched much Toronto b-ball so will take your word for it.

                              Id be shocked if he re signs w a team he’s openly said he would not play for.

                              An unprotected #1 pick is an unprotected #1 pick
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                              • ikid2groove415
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-08-18
                                • 11981

                                #120
                                Toronto fans should be happy about this trade? Backcourt of Lowry/derozan wasn’t getting anywhere !! 2 small and plays no defense - just added 2 guys in Leonard/green that can play elite defense on the wings and create there own shots
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                                • ikid2groove415
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 01-08-18
                                  • 11981

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY
                                  have not watched much Toronto b-ball so will take your word for it.

                                  Id be shocked if he re signs w a team he’s openly said he would not play for.

                                  An unprotected #1 pick is an unprotected #1 pick
                                  1 year is a long time fella - nobody thought Paul George would stay in OKC? - bottom line - Toronto is a better team right now-
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                                  • jtoler
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                                    • 12-17-13
                                    • 30967

                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                                    Toronto fans should be happy about this trade? Backcourt of Lowry/derozan wasn’t getting anywhere !! 2 small and plays no defense - just added 2 guys in Leonard/green that can play elite defense on the wings and create there own shots
                                    danny green create own shot?
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                                    • ikid2groove415
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 01-08-18
                                      • 11981

                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by jtoler
                                      danny green create own shot?
                                      Guess I should say decent shooter - leonard can create his own shots
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                                      • USCPHILLYGUY
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 12-15-12
                                        • 21746

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                                        1 year is a long time fella - nobody thought Paul George would stay in OKC? - bottom line - Toronto is a better team right now-
                                        guy gets called into the GMs office in December & they tell him “we want you to be the face of the raptors for life. Like Kobe was to L. A.” 7 months later traded. I’m sure any player on the roster has any faith in management. Let’s not even talk about the reining coach of the year.

                                        Id be shocked if he wasn’t gone by the trading deadline. No way he resigns.

                                        Spurs deal of the century
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                                        • Roadtrip635
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 12-07-10
                                          • 6129

                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                                          Toronto fans should be happy about this trade? Backcourt of Lowry/derozan wasn’t getting anywhere !! 2 small and plays no defense - just added 2 guys in Leonard/green that can play elite defense on the wings and create there own shots
                                          Don't know how happy Rap fans are going to be

                                          <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kawhi Leonard has no desire to play in Toronto, league source tells ESPN.</p>&mdash; Chris Haynes (@ChrisBHaynes) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1019500916880240640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >July 18, 2018</a></blockquote>
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                                          • ikid2groove415
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 01-08-18
                                            • 11981

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by Roadtrip635
                                            Don't know how happy Rap fans are going to be

                                            <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kawhi Leonard has no desire to play in Toronto, league source tells ESPN.</p>&mdash; Chris Haynes (@ChrisBHaynes) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1019500916880240640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >July 18, 2018</a></blockquote>
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                                            League sources always right ? Sure it’s a risk - they wasn’t winning with derozan
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                                            • ikid2groove415
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-08-18
                                              • 11981

                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY
                                              guy gets called into the GMs office in December & they tell him “we want you to be the face of the raptors for life. Like Kobe was to L. A.” 7 months later traded. I’m sure any player on the roster has any faith in management. Let’s not even talk about the reining coach of the year.

                                              Id be shocked if he wasn’t gone by the trading deadline. No way he resigns.

                                              Spurs deal of the century
                                              It’s a business man ? Seen teams do this before - Let’s say Toronto makes the finals - and they get to dump derozan contract
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                                              • 44 Mag
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                                                • 10-14-13
                                                • 34490

                                                #128
                                                Canadian teams should not be allowed in the NBA, or MLB for that matter. They don't play in the NFL do they???? And their hockey teams suck.
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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388179

                                                  #129
                                                  Wr all know Golden State and Boston Celtics are going to be in the finals why even pay attention to anything
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                                                  • klemopixx
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 10-02-14
                                                    • 3807

                                                    #130
                                                    What would you set the o/u on games Kawhi plays during the regular season?

                                                    I'd have to say 60. You figure he's going to get a dozen rest days, mostly on back to backs. Can he go a whole season without getting baanged up after stting out most of 2017/18? If he does get nicked up, do you think he's gonna hurry back or sit till he feels like he's good?
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                                                    • ikid2groove415
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 01-08-18
                                                      • 11981

                                                      #131
                                                      Raptors need to show Leonard and his uncle around Toronto? Especially the notorious strip clubs
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                                                      • jjgold
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                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                        • 388179

                                                        #132
                                                        Lol

                                                        Will he like cold weather
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                                                        • DeathAdder
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 12-04-14
                                                          • 588

                                                          #133
                                                          Well I'm placing future on Raptors winning the East. Toronto just pulled a Cleveland and are odds on favorites to make the finals.
                                                          Demar too toxic and he was never going to come back after the benching in the playoffs.
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                                                          • shadymcgrady
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 02-27-12
                                                            • 10036

                                                            #134
                                                            Originally posted by jtoler
                                                            danny green create own shot?
                                                            Not even if a shot was a pop tart or microwave dinner
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                                                            • shadymcgrady
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 02-27-12
                                                              • 10036

                                                              #135
                                                              Make no mistake, this is a pit stop for Kawhi but Toronto made it loud and clear to their fan base that being the Houston Rockets is worthless
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                                                              • packerd_00
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                                                                • 05-22-13
                                                                • 17811

                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by shadymcgrady
                                                                Make no mistake, this is a pit stop for Kawhi but Toronto made it loud and clear to their fan base that being the Houston Rockets is worthless
                                                                They needed to move on from DeRozan regardless,I see alot of these Raps fans are bitching that he deserved loyalty,their fine with being losers aslong as a guys nice to them.
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                                                                • d2bets
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                                                                  • 08-10-05
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                                                                  #137
                                                                  When it comes to Kawhi, this is one of those "be careful what you wish for because you just might get it" situations. He wanted a trade and he got one.
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                                                                  • Roadtrip635
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 12-07-10
                                                                    • 6129

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by d2bets
                                                                    When it comes to Kawhi, this is one of those "be careful what you wish for because you just might get it" situations. He wanted a trade and he got one.
                                                                    I wonder how much Uncle Dennis's advise is going to cost Kawhi in the long run? No supermax offer and now there's a risk that if he can't perform this year, his next offer is going to be even less than expected. I wouldn't expect too many companies rushing to sign Kawhi to endorsement deals this year and sitting out last season surely cost him some opportunities. He'll be losing a little more money this season due to taxes moving from Texas to Canada.

                                                                    He's said it's not about the money and is proving it, but how long until his family leeches him dry?
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                                                                    • Grits n' Gravy
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                                                                      • 06-10-10
                                                                      • 13024

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Originally posted by Roadtrip635
                                                                      I wonder how much Uncle Dennis's advise is going to cost Kawhi in the long run? No supermax offer and now there's a risk that if he can't perform this year, his next offer is going to be even less than expected. I wouldn't expect too many companies rushing to sign Kawhi to endorsement deals this year and sitting out last season surely cost him some opportunities. He'll be losing a little more money this season due to taxes moving from Texas to Canada.

                                                                      He's said it's not about the money and is proving it, but how long until his family leeches him dry?
                                                                      He doesn't care about endorsements. If he did, he would have cashed in after winning finals mvp. He wants to play ball and live a low key life.

                                                                      Trade works for both teams. Spurs get a very good player in DeRozan who should improve under Pop. Toronto gets a top 5 player to make a finals push. If Leonard doesn't like Toronto they can do a sign and trade next offseason and get some assets back. Either way, the Raptors roster prior to this deal was not good enough to win a title. Getting DeRozan's deal off the books was a win for them as well.
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                                                                      • Regul8er
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 11-06-07
                                                                        • 10666

                                                                        #140
                                                                        WOjo has reported that Kawhi is warming up to the idea of playing in Toronto.....and that he is healthy, passed physical and will be reporting for the start of camp. He has a press conference scheduled for Friday.

                                                                        Music to my ears!
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