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  • danwinkler
    SBR Sharp
    • 05-22-18
    • 461

    #1
    So, why is online gambling still illegal?
    So they legalized sports betting. So why is online betting still illegal. Pinnacle and other big guys are still refusing americans, how come?
  • mrpapageorgio
    SBR MVP
    • 09-07-17
    • 2974

    #2
    It hasn't been legalized. The Supreme Court basically ruled that the Feds cannot order the states to ban sports betting without setting up their own regulatory scheme. PASPA forced the states to put their own bans on the books rather than setting up their own regulations (basically made the states do the dirty work instead of doing it themselves), but since SCOTUS ruled they can't force the states to do it, the states are free to repeal them and put in their own sports betting laws. However, until the states change those laws, it's still banned in that state.
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
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      #3
      a few states
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      • RangeFinder
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        • 10-27-16
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        #4
        It's going to be a few years, if ever, that you'll be able to bet sports legally online in the U.S
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        • SBR Tony
          Moderator
          • 01-31-18
          • 3934

          #5
          Originally posted by RangeFinder
          It's going to be a few years, if ever, that you'll be able to bet sports legally online in the U.S
          You must mean Offshore online. because each state will have their own online/mobile wagering
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          • RangeFinder
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 10-27-16
            • 8041

            #6
            Originally posted by SBR Tony
            You must mean Offshore online. because each state will have their own online/mobile wagering
            Yes. That's what I meant, thanks
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            • icon
              SBR MVP
              • 01-09-18
              • 3466

              #7
              Originally posted by danwinkler
              why is online gambling still illegal?
              Who told you online gambling was illegal? You got bad info pal. Its not illegal to bet online offshore, it's illegal for banks and other USA based financial institutions to move money to and from the books.
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              • DOM_Toretto
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                • 01-28-13
                • 9035

                #8
                PASPA of 1992 was just struck down by SCOTUS, but it is different from the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006
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                • PAULYPOKER
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                  • 12-06-08
                  • 36581

                  #9
                  Originally posted by danwinkler
                  So they legalized sports betting. So why is online betting still illegal. Pinnacle and other big guys are still refusing americans, how come?
                  Because they know better.............
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                  • PAULYPOKER
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                    • 12-06-08
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                    #10
                    Small shops know better but rely on US $$$$ to stay profitable and afloat................
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                    • PAULYPOKER
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                      • 12-06-08
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                      #11
                      Only those who honored US law will have a chance at grabbing a piece of American Pie when all said and done............
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                      • JIBBBY
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                        • 12-10-09
                        • 83686

                        #12
                        Legalize it... Peter Tosh sang it best ;..

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                        • vividjohn45
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                          • 11-21-10
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                          Only those who honored US law will have a chance at grabbing a piece of American Pie when all said and done............
                          Or They can pay the us Treasury a billion like poker stars did.
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                          • JIBBBY
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 12-10-09
                            • 83686

                            #14
                            Originally posted by vividjohn45
                            Or They can pay the us Treasury a billion like poker stars did.
                            Need to legalize and tax stuff.. Just like with cigarettes and alcohol.. Taxation on drugs and gambling may just climb this Country out of debt one day.. Not gonna happen though but junkies will always find a way to score drugs and or gamble anyways whether it is legal or not. Just how it is...

                            I'd rather it all be legal so you don't get stiffed with online books and shady drug dealers don't sell bad batches of drugs that kill people..

                            Just set up more rehab centers after you legalize everything I say.... You'd instantly cut off dangerous drug cartels and bootleg bookies that will chop off a body part when you can't pay up..
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                            • JohnGalt2341
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                              • 12-31-09
                              • 9138

                              #15
                              Originally posted by JIBBBY
                              Need to legalize and tax stuff.. Just like with cigarettes and alcohol.. Taxation on drugs and gambling may just clime this Country out of debt one day.. Not gonna happen though but junkies will always find a way to score drugs and or gamble anyways whether it is legal or not. Just how it is...

                              I'd rather it all be legal so you don't get stiffed with online books and shady drug dealers don't sell bad batches of drugs that kill people..

                              Just set up more rehab centers after you legalize everything I say.... You'd instantly cut off dangerous drug cartels and bootleg bookies that will chop off a body part when you can't pay up..
                              Indeed. I think it's far more dangerous to have these things illegal. The best way to put drug dealers, pimps, shady bookies etc out of business is to compete with them. Arresting people 1 at a time does nothing to solve the problem. The "problem" will always be there. Just like there will always be obese people there will always be people that use drugs and people that gamble. Legalize it all and then focus on educating people so they will make better choices. I'm always curious as to what these lawmakers biggest fear is? Unfortunately I think many of these lawmakers know absolutely nothing about many of the things that they want to keep illegal... and that's why they want to keep it illegal... because they know nothing about it. It's a viscous cycle of continuous ignorance and that's the way they like it.
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                              • PAULYPOKER
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                                • 12-06-08
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                Need to legalize and tax stuff.. Just like with cigarettes and alcohol.. Taxation on drugs and gambling may just clime this Country out of debt one day.. Not gonna happen though but junkies will always find a way to score drugs and or gamble anyways whether it is legal or not. Just how it is...

                                I'd rather it all be legal so you don't get stiffed with online books and shady drug dealers don't sell bad batches of drugs that kill people..

                                Just set up more rehab centers after you legalize everything I say.... You'd instantly cut off dangerous drug cartels and bootleg bookies that will chop off a body part when you can't pay up..
                                On the backs of the poor, addicted,degenerate trash in this country..............

                                1 stone,4 fukkin birds!

                                Ahh music to our ears!
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                                • Otters27
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                                  • 07-14-07
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by DOM_Toretto
                                  PASPA of 1992 was just struck down by SCOTUS, but it is different from the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006

                                  george bush that fker
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                                  • DOM_Toretto
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 01-28-13
                                    • 9035

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Otters27
                                    george bush that fker
                                    Yeah I guess both Bush’s were in office for both those. Guess they weren’t big on gambling. Trump however is big on gambling - the guy may not drink alcohol but he believes in FREEDOM!
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                                    • eidolon
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                                      • 01-02-08
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                                      #19
                                      Because the power is back to the people and not the feds. Each state has to decide.
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                                      • sourtwist
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                                        • 11-10-12
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                                        #20
                                        UIGEA?

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                                        • daneblazer
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                                          • 09-14-08
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                                          #21
                                          Dan Winkler forum name
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                                          • PAULYPOKER
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                                            • 12-06-08
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                                            #22
                                            C'mon twister,you know it was not enforced..............

                                            Now that Sports gaming will be "privatized" you can guarantee the law rewritten
                                            with even stricter polcies and heavily enforced buy Bigbiz's well paid henchmen
                                            from most US government agencies............
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                                            • PAULYPOKER
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                                              • 12-06-08
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                                              #23
                                              You either sports gamble on approved internet sports gaming sites or go to jail........

                                              Down the road aways yet,ofcourse, but yeah............
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                                              • sourtwist
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                                                • 11-10-12
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                                                #24
                                                Enforced? Maybe not...

                                                A deterrent? Absolutely.
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                                                • PAULYPOKER
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                                                  • 12-06-08
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                                                  #25
                                                  They'll make it imposible for offshore books to be profitable
                                                  when relying on US players..............

                                                  The go to jail part was a joke...........
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                                                  • danwinkler
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 05-22-18
                                                    • 461

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by icon
                                                    Who told you online gambling was illegal? You got bad info pal. Its not illegal to bet online offshore, it's illegal for banks and other USA based financial institutions to move money to and from the books.
                                                    I know that but the bill is called "Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006: An Act to prevent the use of certain payment instruments, cre.dit cards, and fund transfers for unlawful Internet gambling, and for other purposes."
                                                    Sports betting used to be illegal making it unlawful. But now its no longer unlawful and therefore shouldn't that bill get voided automatically after the new ruling?
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                                                    • mrpapageorgio
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 09-07-17
                                                      • 2974

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by danwinkler
                                                      I know that but the bill is called "Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006: An Act to prevent the use of certain payment instruments, cre.dit cards, and fund transfers for unlawful Internet gambling, and for other purposes."
                                                      Sports betting used to be illegal making it unlawful. But now its no longer unlawful and therefore shouldn't that bill get voided automatically after the new ruling?
                                                      It's still technically illegal in most of the states. All SCOTUS did was tell the feds they couldn't force the state to enact bans in their state legislatures. The states get to decide now whether to repeal those bans or keep them, but they now have a choice where they didn't before PASPA.
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                                                      • jjgold
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                        • 388179

                                                        #28
                                                        will not see much difference for years

                                                        A few states will have it but no major impact Country wide like lets say UK or Aussie
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