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  • Sam Odom
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-30-05
    • 58063

    #71
    Originally posted by El Terrible

    I hate... Bookmaker...


    Clown ^
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    • The Kraken
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 12-25-11
      • 28918

      #72
      Originally posted by SharpAngles
      To be fair this isn’t quite true. You may lose your account if you get on his bad side but they will not take any money. I got into a down and dirty chat war with Anthony over some of his nonsense and ended up getting kicked out but my money was shipped via BTC within 12 hours after the boot. He can be a stubborn hard ass but he is not a thief.
      Very true, thanks cor the correction. Terribly worded on my part
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      • El Terrible
        SBR MVP
        • 05-04-18
        • 1436

        #73
        Originally posted by Sam Odom
        Clown ^
        Bookmaker and its affiliates...suck, I could tell you some inside stories, but I don't want to take the time to write them
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        • slambam
          SBR MVP
          • 02-07-10
          • 1653

          #74
          Originally posted by milwaukee mike
          i realize all of that, yes i read it

          but you freerolled them on the MLB game. had it won you would've won 250, instead you lost and you aren't paying the 240. so on the mlb game you had no risk and all reward, a freeroll.

          you didn't know at the time you were betting the mlb game that you were freerolling, and didn't do it intentionally, but the mlb bet stands no matter what. every book in the world would've had the mlb bet stand.
          I don't understand why the MLB bet wouldn't just be N/A'd?
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          • El Terrible
            SBR MVP
            • 05-04-18
            • 1436

            #75
            Originally posted by The Kraken
            Very true, thanks cor the correction. Terribly worded on my part
            HOW DO YOU KNOW? Are you aware of the outcomes of the other million disputes with 5 Dimes? Yeah, they paid you, (small potatos) it doesn't mean they paid everyone
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            • El Terrible
              SBR MVP
              • 05-04-18
              • 1436

              #76
              Originally posted by slambam
              I don't understand why the MLB bet wouldn't just be N/A'd?
              I'm POSITIVE it would have been graded NO ACTION had he won it. People here are saying "well they couldnt do that!".


              They can do whatever they want- What are you gonna do about it, call a cop?
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              • milwaukee mike
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 08-22-07
                • 26914

                #77
                Originally posted by El Terrible
                I'm POSITIVE it would have been graded NO ACTION had he won it. People here are saying "well they couldnt do that!".


                They can do whatever they want- What are you gonna do about it, call a cop?
                how would it even be possible for someone to see and grade no action? his other bet wasn't re-graded as a loss until the next day.

                and 5dimes isn't going to break their own rules over a lousy couple hundred bucks

                5Dimes reserves the right to correct grading errors at any time. If an account reaches a negative balance due to the re-grade of an event, all in-progress pending wagers will stand and be honored. Since winning wagers in this instance will be honored, immediate settlement of losing wagers is also expected.
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                • TheMoneyShot
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 02-14-07
                  • 28672

                  #78
                  Regul8er - It's your call... do you need 5D in your arsenal of books? Or.... not needed?

                  Pay em if you need them.

                  Walk away if you don't.

                  Simple as that.
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                  • El Terrible
                    SBR MVP
                    • 05-04-18
                    • 1436

                    #79
                    Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                    how would it even be possible for someone to see and grade no action? his other bet wasn't re-graded as a loss until the next day.

                    and 5dimes isn't going to break their own rules over a lousy couple hundred bucks
                    You wouldn't think, would you?


                    BUT THINK AGAIN MY FRIEND! Don't believe everything you read and don't ever trust an offshore book-
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                    • MMANick
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-06-16
                      • 4075

                      #80
                      I'm beginning to learn 5D is pretty unprofessional. It's a shame, they're my favorite book.
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                      • relaaxx
                        SBR MVP
                        • 06-15-06
                        • 3281

                        #81
                        Originally posted by El Terrible
                        Bookmaker and its affiliates...suck, I could tell you some inside stories, but I don't want to take the time to write them

                        been saying bookmaker sucks for years. absolutely the worse good rated book.
                        Last edited by relaaxx; 05-22-18, 04:33 PM.
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                        • goduke
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 02-17-10
                          • 11580

                          #82
                          Originally posted by El Terrible
                          Bookmaker and its affiliates...suck, I could tell you some inside stories, but I don't want to take the time to write them
                          And were suppose to just trust this recommendation from someone who has 117 posts and joined 5/4/18 because you dont want to take time to write the reasonsS? Sounds a little too much like a book pushing ghost account when you do that.
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                          • El Terrible
                            SBR MVP
                            • 05-04-18
                            • 1436

                            #83
                            Originally posted by goduke
                            And were suppose to just trust this recommendation from someone who has 117 posts and joined 5/4/18 because you dont want to take time to write the reasonsS? Sounds a little too much like a book pushing ghost account when you do that.
                            Absolutely not... I'm just talking from experience, a bad experience with Bookmaker and I probably know a little more about this company than most. Don't ever take a bonus or free bet from them.
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                            • El Terrible
                              SBR MVP
                              • 05-04-18
                              • 1436

                              #84
                              Originally posted by MMANick
                              I'm beginning to learn 5D is pretty unprofessional. It's a shame, they're my favorite book.
                              Exactly.. And you really need your Doctor, Lawyer and Book to be professional.
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                              • TheMetsSuck
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-14-12
                                • 6146

                                #85
                                coming from the guy praising sportsbook.ag. your doctor is probably on the same level as Dr. Nick from the Simpsons
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                                • goduke
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 02-17-10
                                  • 11580

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by El Terrible
                                  Absolutely not... I'm just talking from experience, a bad experience with Bookmaker and I probably know a little more about this company than most. Don't ever take a bonus or free bet from them.
                                  Why? I've taken bonuses and free bets from them. Please elaborate
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                                  • El Terrible
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 05-04-18
                                    • 1436

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by TheMetsSuck
                                    coming from the guy praising sportsbook.ag. your doctor is probably on the same level as Dr. Nick from the Simpsons
                                    Ok...I don't know why...But I love Sportsbook.ag...I think its all the money I got delivered to my door.
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                                    • El Terrible
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 05-04-18
                                      • 1436

                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by goduke
                                      Why? I've taken bonuses and free bets from them. Please elaborate
                                      I've had a zero balance with them for two years and I still got a 5,240 rollover requirement there? I think they put a Lien on my house
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388179

                                        #89
                                        You got a watch because books can take you to court for nonpayment but most will not do that
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                                        • goduke
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 02-17-10
                                          • 11580

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by El Terrible
                                          I've had a zero balance with them for two years and I still got a 5,240 rollover requirement there? I think they put a Lien on my house
                                          Simple computer glitch. I guarantee if you address it with their CS theyll zero it out. Is that it? Because thats such a simple fix
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                                          • mtneer1212
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 06-22-08
                                            • 4993

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by jjgold
                                            You got a watch because books can take you to court for nonpayment but most will not do that
                                            LOL, in where San Juan? "Yes, your honor, I run an offshore sportsbook in a central American country illegally using the US banking system to fund the accounts, and the defendant freerolled me when my operation incorrectly graded a game, and then allowed him to place funds on another event. That action lost, and now he owes, but refuses to pay. Can I get a judgement in my favor, so I can seize his assets?"

                                            On what planet are you on JJ? Has the New Jersey air polluted your sensibility?
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                                            • ans61201
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 10-11-15
                                              • 3661

                                              #92
                                              Amazing how many people play at 5dimes. Even more amazing that it has an A. 😂😂😂. Can't wait for the legal books to put it out of business. So poorly run.
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                                              • El Terrible
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 05-04-18
                                                • 1436

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by ans61201
                                                Amazing how many people play at 5dimes. Even more amazing that it has an A.
                                                They pay for that A rating, its a commercial- My favorite book gets a D and it has the best lines, best props, best customer service, best no rollover free bets and have paid me everytime for over 12 years..
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                                                • ans61201
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 10-11-15
                                                  • 3661

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by El Terrible
                                                  They pay for that A rating, its a commercial- My favorite book gets a D and it has the best lines, best props, best customer service, best no rollover free bets and have paid me everytime for over 12 years..
                                                  Oddly enough, besides BM the place that's paid me the quickest and have never had one single issue with over past 7 years also has a very low rating on here. Probably 50+ payments of over 1k within 48 hours every time. Pre btc as well.
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                                                  • El Terrible
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 05-04-18
                                                    • 1436

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by ans61201
                                                    Oddly enough, besides BM the place that's paid me the quickest and have never had one single issue with over past 7 years also has a very low rating on here. Probably 50+ payments of over 1k within 48 hours every time. Pre btc as well.
                                                    I was with Bowmans when the internet was first invented, and i've been with just about every book out there since- My experience trumps any rating...
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                                                    • big joe 1212
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 06-01-08
                                                      • 19380

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by El Terrible
                                                      Bookmaker and its affiliates...suck, I could tell you some inside stories, but I don't want to take the time to write them
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                                                      • El Terrible
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 05-04-18
                                                        • 1436

                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by big joe 1212
                                                        Hey..if it good for you, thats great...

                                                        It wasn't for me
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                                                        • Regul8er
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 11-06-07
                                                          • 10666

                                                          #98
                                                          Ive been close a few times to just paying this, but just not budging.

                                                          Ive been a member with them for over 10 years......and they know my numbers. Just not gonna happen.
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                                                          • pattymayo
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 05-19-09
                                                            • 10221

                                                            #99
                                                            5dimes misgraded a live betting ultra bet on me Friday morning. 3 days later they correct it, of course on Friday I had plenty to cover that, not so much today, and now have a negative balance for the first time ever

                                                            Why would they wait 3 days to regrade a bet?
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                                                            • allabout the $$$
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 04-17-10
                                                              • 9843

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by pattymayo
                                                              5dimes misgraded a live betting ultra bet on me Friday morning. 3 days later they correct it, of course on Friday I had plenty to cover that, not so much today, and now have a negative balance for the first time ever

                                                              Why would they wait 3 days to regrade a bet?
                                                              ok so why didnt you let them know the bet was misgraded? your took a shot and lost now have that negative balance just pay it and move on
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                                                              • cashin81
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 09-10-14
                                                                • 12946

                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by pattymayo
                                                                5dimes misgraded a live betting ultra bet on me Friday morning. 3 days later they correct it, of course on Friday I had plenty to cover that, not so much today, and now have a negative balance for the first time ever

                                                                Why would they wait 3 days to regrade a bet?
                                                                A lot of euro books say if theres an error in settlement, you are to hold the money in trust for them. I guess 3 days isnt unreasonable, but 3 weeks would be.
                                                                Its not the law, just one of their terms.

                                                                Im not sure what happens with a negative balance. Id guess its a stand off, if you guys wanna keep playing - you have to pay.
                                                                Id be worried, if you do pay and want to keep playing - you may be limited to $0 bets once you get the balance back to positive lol
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                                                                • pattymayo
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 05-19-09
                                                                  • 10221

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by allabout the $$$
                                                                  ok so why didnt you let them know the bet was misgraded? your took a shot and lost now have that negative balance just pay it and move on
                                                                  Because I assumed it would be fixed pretty quickly, especially because it was live betting ultra and that is graded nearly instantly. And I had plenty in my account to cover the eventual reverse had it happened the same day. Of course I ended up going on a ridiculous losing streak

                                                                  I’m not complaining, nor do I think it’s unfair. I’ve just been playing at 5d for years and never had a negative balance and then i do today and stumbled on this thread
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                                                                  • Regul8er
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 11-06-07
                                                                    • 10666

                                                                    #103
                                                                    I still haven't paid them back......and the chances are less and less likely that I will as time goes on.

                                                                    Still think it was ridiculous how everything went down.
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                                                                    • ans61201
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 10-11-15
                                                                      • 3661

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by Regul8er
                                                                      I still haven't paid them back......and the chances are less and less likely that I will as time goes on.

                                                                      Still think it was ridiculous how everything went down.
                                                                      Be a fool to
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                                                                      • TheMoneyShot
                                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                        • 02-14-07
                                                                        • 28672

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                        You got a watch because books can take you to court for nonpayment but most will not do that
                                                                        Yeah... call up Judge Judy.

                                                                        Was this the 4th shift JJ?
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