Negative Balance Question

[jjgold]

so did the player ever contact 5 dimes?

[grease lightnin]

The first bet should be voided as it was obviously a bad line. There was no way for the player or book to know it was a bad line but it was with the 3 pointer being taken away after the half ended.

The 2nd bet that lost should be honored. They should reset your balance to zero.

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It was a bad line. They wouldn’t have paid the bet had you been on the other side.

[gauchojake]

If that is the policy then you should only bet rolling if bets.

[Regul8er]

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It was a bad line. They wouldn’t have paid the bet had you been on the other side.

See, Im not sure it was a bad line though. I bet +4.5 late in the 1st quarter. Doesn't sound like the points taken off the board happened until later in the 2nd quarter. But regardless, this is crap.

[swordsandtequila]

I wouldn't give them a dime. I sincerely doubt that "rule" would hold water in a legal casino. The second doesn't happen without the first, common fuk'n sense. If the restrictions are lifted for UK books to do business in the states watch how fast attitudes change.

[jjgold]

why are we talking about this here???

How come poster not dealing with 5 Dimes??

[Regul8er]

I did contact Tony.......he basically said "screw you" lol

What are some of your guys favorite books? No more time for games......need to play somewhere I'm respected.

[unde0087]

Tony is a fukin clown. Go to Heritage. Bitch stuff like this doesn't happen there.

[5mike5]

Tony has his period every Monday, Tuesdays are better

[Regul8er]

The way he responded, it wouldn't have mattered what day I contacted him. I was calm, polite, tried to explain, and just got sh!t on.
His loss.

[BigOrange]

See, Im not sure it was a bad line though. I bet +4.5 late in the 1st quarter. Doesn't sound like the points taken off the board happened until later in the 2nd quarter. But regardless, this is crap.

Ok if you made the live with a correct score and line before the disallowed shot in question happened, the bet should stand. You are also responsible for the 2nd bet. You would have expected to be paid if it had won. I know that sucks and it isn't what you want to hear but this is the way I would treat if if I was the book and this is what I would expect as the player.

[BigOrange]

I did contact Tony.......he basically said "screw you" lol

What are some of your guys favorite books? No more time for games......need to play somewhere I'm respected.

Personally I wouldn't lose the 5dimes out over $240 but that is your decision. There are a few other good books out there but if you don't pay this and then decide later that you want to go back to 5dimes, Tony probably won't let you back in. I would take a day or two to calm down and then decide if it's worth it to pay the $240 to keep the account even if you don't agree with it.

If I was going to pay it, I would probably talk again to Tony and tell him you don't agree with the decision but you are willing to pay the money to keep the account and then ask him if he will give you a freeplay or something to make it easier to swallow.

[swordsandtequila]

Fuk that, he wouldn't get one red cent from me. Books cancel bets for everything (wrong start time, game didn't go a prescribed number of minutes, etc.) regardless of whether the bet won or loss. But for their own error the bet stands? If anybody was taking a shot it was 5D's, soon as the first bet was corrected all following bets should have been cancelled due to lack of funds. If I tried to place a bet with zero balance it obviously wouldn't go through. What's the difference here, other than some fine print buried in their terms? Take your business elsewhere.

[The Kraken]

Everyone is responsible for every bet they place, except Tony.

[Regul8er]

Ya, Im done posting up with these guys....this was the last straw.

[The Kraken]

Honestly, they’re a decent out but not what they once were, especially when you factor in that at any time you could potentially lose your entire roll if Tonys having a bad morning

Good luck

[milwaukee mike]

the bet that lost (pushing into a negative balance) would've counted if it won

so why shouldn't it count because it lost? just because it might not have been made if the funds weren't there?

there was no ill-intent, but it was definitely a free roll by the player

[goduke]

Ok if you made the live with a correct score and line before the disallowed shot in question happened, the bet should stand. You are also responsible for the 2nd bet. You would have expected to be paid if it had won. I know that sucks and it isn't what you want to hear but this is the way I would treat if if I was the book and this is what I would expect as the player.

Except that Tony wouldn’t of paid the second bet if he won. 5dimes is the king of loopholes.

[BigOrange]

Except that Tony wouldn’t of paid the second bet if he won. 5dimes is the king of loopholes.

Yes he would have. It is stated in their terms that bets are honored even if the balance is insufficient.

"In the event an account reaches a negative balance due to the re-grade of an event, all in-progress pending wagers will stand and be honored. Since winning wagers in this instance will be honored, immediate settlement of losing wagers is also expected."

[goduke]

Yes he would have. It is stated in their terms that bets are honored even if the balance is insufficient.

"In the event an account reaches a negative balance due to the re-grade of an event, all in-progress pending wagers will stand and be honored. Since winning wagers in this instance will be honored, immediate settlement of losing wagers is also expected."

Yeah I just saw this after I responded. So you are correct. Even though I think this rule is stupid. It’s a post up shop not a credit one. It should be treated as such. There’s no debate in future issues if future bets were cancelled due to improper grading of a previous bet

[gauchojake]

Heritage, Bookmaker, Intertops, GT Bets, Bovada, etc etc etc. Too many issues with 5dimes that you literally never hear about from any other book. Look you could probably just use your brother's account if you really need to.

[Regul8er]

the bet that lost (pushing into a negative balance) would've counted if it won

so why shouldn't it count because it lost? just because it might not have been made if the funds weren't there?

there was no ill-intent, but it was definitely a free roll by the player

I would have expected my 2nd bet to have been cancelled.....even had it won. I was basically betting with credit at that point. I dont see how it was a free roll by the player, when the balance is now negative?

[El Terrible]

Is 5D that bad now a days? You ended up losing the money that they graded wrong and they want you to pay a back? Note taken. Whether they credit your account to $0 or not, I'd find a new book.

Yes...It is-

Go to another book, these guys do not share information, they are competitors and no book is gonna worry about a negative balance situation repeating itself at their book anyway? 5 dimes is the worst- They act like they are doing you a favor by letting you bet, while other books will appreciate your business..

You have nothing to fear from "Tony"...lol

[El Terrible]

Personally I wouldn't lose the 5dimes out over $240 but that is your decision. There are a few other good books out there but if you don't pay this and then decide later that you want to go back to 5dimes, Tony probably won't let you back in. I would take a day or two to calm down and then decide if it's worth it to pay the $240 to keep the account even if you don't agree with it.

If I was going to pay it, I would probably talk again to Tony and tell him you don't agree with the decision but you are willing to pay the money to keep the account and then ask him if he will give you a freeplay or something to make it easier to swallow.

omg...Worst advice ever

..go to Sportsbook.ag

They used to slow pay...Not anymore- of all my books, they're the best. I left 5 Dimes 5 years ago- for all the reasons listed here, they suck

[milwaukee mike]

I would have expected my 2nd bet to have been cancelled.....even had it won. I was basically betting with credit at that point. I dont see how it was a free roll by the player, when the balance is now negative?

it became a free roll by you when you decided not to pay the negative balance

it lost and you weren't out the money... if it won you would've won the money (there is no way in the world they would've graded it a push or cancelled it) ... that's the very definition of free rolling

[SharpAngles]

especially when you factor in that at any time you could potentially lose your entire roll if Tonys having a bad morning

Good luck

To be fair this isn’t quite true. You may lose your account if you get on his bad side but they will not take any money. I got into a down and dirty chat war with Anthony over some of his nonsense and ended up getting kicked out but my money was shipped via BTC within 12 hours after the boot. He can be a stubborn hard ass but he is not a thief.

[Regul8er]

I dont quite understand I follow MM. Did you read the first couple posts. SOmeone confirmed they were at the WNBA game, and a 3 pointer from earlier in the 2nd quarter got reversed right before the start of the 2nd Half began The halftime score was 38-35, and had been posted at that score for about 20 minutes. 5dimes graded it, and every source showed 38-35. SO with that, I made another bet, pretty much all in from that payout. My account got reversed the next day, about 15 hours later or so. I didnt even realize the WNBA 1st half score had changed, until I started digging into my account, and realized the score was actually 38-32.

[vividjohn45]

How many ways has JJ spelled "Shari"?

When jj says her name, he says it the way a Frenchman would. I.e. " my amore' , shh-aa-reee."

[milwaukee mike]

I dont quite understand I follow MM. Did you read the first couple posts. SOmeone confirmed they were at the WNBA game, and a 3 pointer from earlier in the 2nd quarter got reversed right before the start of the 2nd Half began The halftime score was 38-35, and had been posted at that score for about 20 minutes. 5dimes graded it, and every source showed 38-35. SO with that, I made another bet, pretty much all in from that payout. My account got reversed the next day, about 15 hours later or so. I didnt even realize the WNBA 1st half score had changed, until I started digging into my account, and realized the score was actually 38-32.

i realize all of that, yes i read it

but you freerolled them on the MLB game. had it won you would've won 250, instead you lost and you aren't paying the 240. so on the mlb game you had no risk and all reward, a freeroll.

you didn't know at the time you were betting the mlb game that you were freerolling, and didn't do it intentionally, but the mlb bet stands no matter what. every book in the world would've had the mlb bet stand.

[Regul8er]

I see what your saying! I said I wasn't paying, but I'm also still a little steamed about the whole situation. I might pay down the road if I feel up to it.

[milwaukee mike]

I see what your saying! I said I wasn't paying, but I'm also still a little steamed about the whole situation. I might pay down the road if I feel up to it.

yeah i totally see your side of it too, i've been there. they should've offered a nice freeplay if you made it right, something like deposit 500 and get 250 freeplay, so at least you'd have a balance of 260 and freeplay of 250.

[Sam Odom]

Your biggest worry here...

If 'Tony' believes you took a shot at him. He may very well hold your next W/D request -- Tony is god after all

So... Now Tony believes you tried to fuk him ?

[goduke]

omg...Worst advice ever

..go to Sportsbook.ag

They used to slow pay...Not anymore- of all my books, they're the best. I left 5 Dimes 5 years ago- for all the reasons listed here, they suck

absolutely 100 percent do not go to sportsbook.ag. Garbage book. Their history speaks for itself.

[El Terrible]

absolutely 100 percent do not go to sportsbook.ag. Garbage book. Their history speaks for itself.

Been with them, as well as with most of the Books, forever. Sportsbook used to take 12 weeks (yeah I know) to pay, but they always paid. I've collected about 15k this year, 2500 at a time and its right there everytime. Much improved- always dependable

I hate Betdsi, Bookmaker, Betonline and 5 Dimes. 5 Dimes is the worst...When everyone here knows the name of their troubleshooter there, there's a problem

[El Terrible]

I see what your saying! I said I wasn't paying, but I'm also still a little steamed about the whole situation. I might pay down the road if I feel up to it.

The second you pay, your account will be closed