NBA Playoffs 2018

[DOM-Ganador]

Raptors Series Price -200 (6x)

This Cavs team is dead. They’re totally spent. LeBron himself said he’s burnt. He’s going to do everything he can but he just doesn’t have enough around him. Kevin Love doesn’t look 100% to me. When he’s playing his best, he’s still more than just a spacer on offense. You can throw it to him in the post on a mismatch and he’ll score pretty much every time. He’s not doing that now. James not only had to score 45, he had to come up with every big defensive play down the stretch. I like the Pacers but they aren’t that good. They’re solid but nothing special and they still took Cleveland the distance. This Toronto team is much deeper and more complete. They defend 1-5, space the floor better than they ever have, and have a legitimate inside presence on both their starting unit and bench unit.

It’s finally Toronto’s time and there’s nothing this version of LeBron’s Cavs can do about it. Frankly it will probably be a relief for him to just end this shit once and for all.

I agree. Watching the Cavs, I feel they are quite possibly the worst team to ever win a playoff series.
If the Raps can get LeCrybaby on the ropes, the frustration will blossom and he will break down.

I ain`t going through the thread and calculate how you are doing, but would love to know where you are at.

BOL the rest of the way. Think Philly wins tonight. With Brown either dinged with the hammy or sitting, Celts are simply too shorthanded.
Kind of surprised you haven`t taken 76 series.

[thetrinity]

Might go without saying but game 1 is a must for the raptors. Teams in game 1 after a game 7 usually don't do so well, and raptors have sucked in game 1 in the past. As long as Toronto lasts all 7, wizzle can take the Cavs and the points so unless Cleveland wins in 6 or less,he should be ok.

[t-wizzle]

I agree. Watching the Cavs, I feel they are quite possibly the worst team to ever win a playoff series.
If the Raps can get LeCrybaby on the ropes, the frustration will blossom and he will break down.

I ain`t going through the thread and calculate how you are doing, but would love to know where you are at.

BOL the rest of the way. Think Philly wins tonight. With Brown either dinged with the hammy or sitting, Celts are simply too shorthanded.
Kind of surprised you haven`t taken 76 series.

Thanks man. I’m down. It’s not good. The Utah/OKC series crushed me, but especially Game 5.

I can’t lay -420 juice on the Sixers. It’s just too high for me. -200 on Toronto was kind of where I draw the line on those things. I debated waiting on the Raptors in case they drop one at home but I don’t see it. Game 2 is a possible loss but I see this being a relatively short series.

As for the Sixers, they should take care of business as well but Boston is tough. It could be a short series but you never know. Jaylen Brown being out hurts the Celtics a lot. He would have been the best defender on Simmons. Now I imagine they will throw multiple looks at him. Don’t be surprised if Marcus Smart defends him for long periods of time. The height advantage is neutralized because Simmons doesn’t take jumpshots. Smart can get up in his grill and make things really tough. He has long enough arms to at least contest Ben on shots around the basket especially those little 8 footers.

[DOM-Ganador]

Thanks man. I’m down. It’s not good. The Utah/OKC series crushed me, but especially Game 5.

I can’t lay -420 juice on the Sixers. It’s just too high for me. -200 on Toronto was kind of where I draw the line on those things. I debated waiting on the Raptors in case they drop one at home but I don’t see it. Game 2 is a possible loss but I see this being a relatively short series.

As for the Sixers, they should take care of business as well but Boston is tough. It could be a short series but you never know. Jaylen Brown being out hurts the Celtics a lot. He would have been the best defender on Simmons. Now I imagine they will throw multiple looks at him. Don’t be surprised if Marcus Smart defends him for long periods of time. The height advantage is neutralized because Simmons doesn’t take jumpshots. Smart can get up in his grill and make things really tough. He has long enough arms to at least contest Ben on shots around the basket especially those little 8 footers.

Good answer. I didn`t see a 76er series line, but thought it would have been way under -400.
Certainly not a lock. Very excited about watching this series though. Future of the East on display.

[t-wizzle]

Game 1: Raptors -6.5 -108 (4x)

[ikid2groove415]

Game 1: Raptors -6.5 -108 (3x)

Sixers/Celtics?

[t-wizzle]

Sixers/Celtics?

No play. Rooting for my squad. I think they can sweep.

[t-wizzle]

Celtics 2H ML +350 (1x)

Sixers don’t have it tonight. I’m not saying they can’t come back. All it takes is a few shots to get back in the game. But they just look flat tonight. A lot of defensive breakdowns. Boston physicality is bothering them as well. I think Celtics 2H ML has value for a small play. They could pull away and win by 15.

[t-wizzle]

Celtics 2H +6.5 -105 (2x)

[Yankfan4life2]

Celtics 2H ML +350 (1x)

Sixers don’t have it tonight. I’m not saying they can’t come back. All it takes is a few shots to get back in the game. But they just look flat tonight. A lot of defensive breakdowns. Boston physicality is bothering them as well. I think Celtics 2H ML has value for a small play. They could pull away and win by 15.

Love this bet but don't have the balls to take it. Good luck wizzle.

[t-wizzle]

Love this bet but don't have the balls to take it. Good luck wizzle.

Saw a slight drop at a few books. Greek originally had +310 then moved to +300. Pinny had +305 and dropped to +297. I got a favorable number here. I think it has a chance. I just don’t like what I’m seeing from the sixers. Their offense doesn’t have its usual flow.

[Yankfan4life2]

Saw a slight drop at a few books. Greek originally had +310 then moved to +300. Pinny had +305 and dropped to +297. I got a favorable number here. I think it has a chance. I just don’t like what I’m seeing from the sixers. Their offense doesn’t have its usual flow.

I saw it drop to +275 on bovada. But I'm with you. Sixers look out out sync this game. BOL

[t-wizzle]

Can change in an instant. Sixers building some momentum but Boston maintaining distance with the 3 ball.

[t-wizzle]

Sixers got punched. Let’s see how they respond.

[Yankfan4life2]

Nice win on the boston 2H wizzle. Had a feeling it was gonna cash.

[DOM-Ganador]

Good call 2nd half.
Celts can sustain their D, but shouldn`t repeat the 3 point efficiency.


Time now to take Sixer series? This is going to be fun.

[Seto]

LeBron himself said he’s burnt.

Duuude come on. You can't be serious using that as an argument.

Do see your point on the rest although I don't agree with it. I don't see the Raptors as being much if at all better than the Pacers. Oladipo is at least as good as DeRozan. The bigs on both teams are basically a wash (Thad Young, Myles Turner and Sabonis vs Ibaka Valanciunas and Siakam/Ploetl). Bogdanovic is a much more complete player and more consistent shooter than Toronto's gunner (CJ Miles). Cory Joseph and Lance vs Wright and VanVleet is also basically a wash. That leaves you with what, Lowry vs Collison as the edge? Yeah Lowry is the better player but he's consistently been a bum in the playoffs.

Over the last month of the season, you could easily argue Indiana was the much better team. The Raptors finished 7-6 with 5 wins against lottery teams, many of them a struggle. Casey played his guys basically every game, he even had them in for OT of the finale. They weren't really impressive at all vs the Wizards.

I mean I'm completely with you on the whole "Cavs suck" thing but Indiana may actually be the toughest test they get before they get pummelled into oblivion by the Warriors in the Finals.

[ikid2groove415]

Raptors are sellouts and I ain’t buying

[t-wizzle]

Duuude come on. You can't be serious using that as an argument.

Do see your point on the rest although I don't agree with it. I don't see the Raptors as being much if at all better than the Pacers. Oladipo is at least as good as DeRozan. The bigs on both teams are basically a wash (Thad Young, Myles Turner and Sabonis vs Ibaka Valanciunas and Siakam/Ploetl). Bogdanovic is a much more complete player and more consistent shooter than Toronto's gunner (CJ Miles). Cory Joseph and Lance vs Wright and VanVleet is also basically a wash. That leaves you with what, Lowry vs Collison as the edge? Yeah Lowry is the better player but he's consistently been a bum in the playoffs.

Over the last month of the season, you could easily argue Indiana was the much better team. The Raptors finished 7-6 with 5 wins against lottery teams, many of them a struggle. Casey played his guys basically every game, he even had them in for OT of the finale. They weren't really impressive at all vs the Wizards.

I mean I'm completely with you on the whole "Cavs suck" thing but Indiana may actually be the toughest test they get before they get pummelled into oblivion by the Warriors in the Finals.

Sorry man I don’t agree. I like the Pacers team but they’re not that good. Valanciunas is a force. Turner did nothing last series other than hit a few wide open jumpshots. Valanciunas is a monster. Toronto spreads the floor better than they ever have. That leaves JV down low to eat smaller centers alive on the block. You can’t really deny Derozan’s emergence as a legitimate #1 option. Also, Wright, Miles and VanVleet are much better bench options than Lance & company. Lance is terrible bro. He gets hot for short spurts but he hurts them with awful decision making.

You can’t make the case Indiana is as good or close to Toronto. The Raptors won 11 more games for a reason. Forget about going 7-6 down the stretch. A lot of teams play like crap late in the season. What happened when the Raptors needed a win over Indy? They crushed them. It wasn’t even a game.

It’s just too much on LeBron’s plate. He’s incredible but at least in the past he had some semblance of a supporting cast. He’s surrounded by scrubs at every position right now. If Love were playing well it would be a different story but he doesn’t look right.

[ikid2groove415]

Pacers auctually plays defense and stiffle the Cavs for most of the series - Toronto does not play defense and Cavs destroyed them last 2 meeting

[ikid2groove415]

Tough to win in Toronto - Cavs steal atleast 1 tho

[Regul8er]

Pacers auctually plays defense and stiffle the Cavs for most of the series - Toronto does not play defense and Cavs destroyed them last 2 meeting

Toronto doesnt play defense? You do realize they finished top 5 defensively in the NBA this year, right?

[shadymcgrady]

Valanciunas is hungry and still plays with a chip on his shoulder at this point in his career. That's a bad combo for Cleveland

I can see the zebras trying to get Love's momemtum and confidence going with touch fouls on Ibaka but for the most part Love is outmatched as all of his strengths get swallowed up by Ibaka's strength on defense. Throw in the fact that Love is a matador defender and that's a recipe for disaster as soon as the charity free throws dry up

Lebron will get his and he'll have to have career numbers just to keep this thing close but for how long? Toronto has no response for him but the disparity between Derozan and Hood or whoever Cleveland has for him isn't far off.

If Lowry has the playoff breakout that Toronto expects Cleveland are sitting ducks. Even if he performs at a 17, 7 and 7 pace with key plays that is enough considering constant barrages from Van Fleet, Wright and company off the bench

Toronto's best chance to win this is to do it in 5 or less, anything more and the playoff pressure becomes a more tangible factor. Something that only Lebron wields with expertise while the rest of Toronto flounders

[ikid2groove415]

Toronto doesnt play defense? You do realize they finished top 5 defensively in the NBA this year, right?

Lol garbage stat numbers

[Seto]

Sorry man I don’t agree. I like the Pacers team but they’re not that good. Valanciunas is a force. Turner did nothing last series other than hit a few wide open jumpshots. Valanciunas is a monster. Toronto spreads the floor better than they ever have. That leaves JV down low to eat smaller centers alive on the block. You can’t really deny Derozan’s emergence as a legitimate #1 option. Also, Wright, Miles and VanVleet are much better bench options than Lance & company. Lance is terrible bro. He gets hot for short spurts but he hurts them with awful decision making.

You can’t make the case Indiana is as good or close to Toronto. The Raptors won 11 more games for a reason. Forget about going 7-6 down the stretch. A lot of teams play like crap late in the season. What happened when the Raptors needed a win over Indy? They crushed them. It wasn’t even a game.

It’s just too much on LeBron’s plate. He’s incredible but at least in the past he had some semblance of a supporting cast. He’s surrounded by scrubs at every position right now. If Love were playing well it would be a different story but he doesn’t look right.

I think you have to compare what's comparable, the equivalent of Miles on Indy is Bogdanovic. Anunoby is the starter but he rarely if ever plays in the 4th. Valanciunas is ok but he doesn't play enough minutes to matter. Agree to disagree on the bigs comparison. I think he's actually regressed in the last 2 years. He was a beast before he got hurt in that Miami series a couple years ago.

Well, I'm not sure if I'm denying DeRozan's emergence but I don't think he's better than Oladipo. He's the same player man. He was hot for about a month in January or February and got some laughable MVP talk but other than that he's been the same guy he has bene for years. Yeah he takes a couple less shots and averages about 1 assist and 1 3 point make more per game, big deal. I've watched the Raptors tons, he's still just as frustrating in the 4th.

Regular season records don't mean much, I mean there are examples every year that we have agreed on where the team with the worse record was in fact much better. And I would agree with you on the fact that late regular season games don't mean much if the Raptors had been resting guys, not playing hard, had a hard schedule or weren't playing for anything. But none of those things were true. They played their guys almost every game, played hard, had an easy schedule and were only up by 2 game over Boston with 4 or 5 to go. Indiana just came into the playoffs playing much better basketball, and for these "point to prove" teams, I don't think you can discount that.

Indy was on a back to back in that game after a big win over the Warriors. I mean we both know the drill. If we're gonna bring that up, how about when the Raptors went into Cleveland twice to try to prove they were the new talk of the East and choked the first game away then got destroyed in the 2nd?

I get the Cavs' roster is shit but it isn't any more shitty than the 2007 or 2015 (Love & Kyrie both hurt) rosters. Trust me, if there was a team I considered to be legit (Celtics with Kyrie and Hayward, Sixers with a bit more experience), I would be picking them to win the East all day long. But it's hard to imagine LeBron not winning it at least one last time.

[Hman]

GL twizzler

[Regul8er]

lol.....the numbers are the numbers......hard to argue with data,

[ikid2groove415]

lol.....the numbers are the numbers......hard to argue with data,

Watch tonight’s game
- Cavs had one of the best offense in the nba all year - all sudden they struggle vs pacers ? They will score on Toronto - both teams scoring

[ikid2groove415]

And yes stats does not always prove everything

[shadymcgrady]

Comparing derozan to oladipo is a bad comparison

Derozan more along the lines of giannis antentetkoumpo in terms of impact

Oladipo more like Monta Ellis during his golden state days

[ikid2groove415]

Comparing derozan to oladipo is a bad comparison

Derozan more along the lines of giannis antentetkoumpo in terms of impact

Oladipo more like Monta Ellis during his golden state days

LOL- Greek freak and Derozan both overrated bums - good point

[ikid2groove415]

Greek freak couldn’t even put his team on his back to beat a depleted Boston team? Joke man/ tired of hearing this guy name

[Regul8er]

Watch tonight’s game
- Cavs had one of the best offense in the nba all year - all sudden they struggle vs pacers ? They will score on Toronto - both teams scoring

This might be your problem....your looking at too small of a subset. Your looking at a 7 game stretch......82 games tells the story of a teams efficienices, not 7. Anything can happen when the subset is too small, this is why the better team doesn't win every game/series. But to say Toronto doesn't play defense is just asinine.

[ikid2groove415]

This might be your problem....your looking at too small of a subset. Your looking at a 7 game stretch......82 games tells the story of a teams efficienices, not 7. Anything can happen when the subset is too small, this is why the better team doesn't win every game/series. But to say Toronto doesn't play defense is just asinine.

How does the better team not win? You have to win 4x? It’s not March madness

[Regul8er]

How does the better team not win? You have to win 4x? It’s not March madness

Your joking, right? Tell me your joking? Do you really think the favorite wins every series across the board? Do you follow sports? My head is starting to hurt.......Im gonna sign off, and get back to work, lol