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  • ChuckyTheGoat
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    • 04-04-11
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    #71
    Capt Robey, respect your post for the honesty it displays. You wrote a lot. I'm going to digest it.

    I can say that gambling is meant to be done within limits. Can't play over your head. It's an old saying, but it's true.

    Sit back + re-evaluate. This is supposed to be fun.
    Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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    • ans61201
      SBR MVP
      • 10-11-15
      • 3661

      #72
      Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
      He’s talking about your deposited money. Not your winnings that you so
      reluctantly loss like some bored rich schmuck.

      Eh I'd disagree. That's one of the problems people make betting online as opposed to in person. It's just numbers on the screen, and you're not physically pulling cash out of your pocket so it feels like it's different (that's why I stopped playing online poker for 100% live Poker)

      But if you were in a casino, won 16000 grand in the sportsbook, walked up to your hotel room took a shower went back downstairs and lost it on a slot machine I'd fee like I just lost 16 grand.

      How much has it cost him from deposits, sure you can go that method but he could also say 0 using that method as his other 46k win covers that using that logic.

      How much have you lost at the casino slots/BJ total
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      • BIGDAY
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        • 02-17-10
        • 48245

        #73
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        • ikid2groove415
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          • 01-08-18
          • 11981

          #74
          I never got into casino games - just sportsbook - bro next time you win big - cash that bitch out and reload few hundreds - you have been on a monster run that most gamblers wish for
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          • Shute
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            • 03-20-17
            • 11835

            #75
            Shut it down
            Just shut it down
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            • Shute
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              • 03-20-17
              • 11835

              #76
              Cap
              You got more coin than anyone here
              Just enjoy
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              • shari91
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                • 02-23-10
                • 32661

                #77
                Online casinos scare the piss out of me purely because how I know how I've acted in real casinos when I've made a bunch and then lost back even a small portion of it. The chase begins and then suddenly not only have I lost my profit but I cash in more at the tables and suddenly I'd be in the hole big time. I can only imagine how I'd be playing online. The best thing you can do is take the advice of the others and self-exclude yourself from every online casino that you can think of. No judgement here though... at all
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                • konck
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                  • 10-17-06
                  • 12554

                  #78
                  Total BS another employee with time on his hands
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                  • jjgold
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                    • 07-20-05
                    • 388179

                    #79
                    Originally posted by captrobey
                    Wow let me think about that. If you are talking the amounts i lost from building it up like just with the last one going from $350 to $18600 and looking at it as the $18600 through the years it is a TON. EASILY at least around $150000 .
                    not that bad and not that much damage actually

                    good time just to stick to sports
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                    • A4K
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 10-08-12
                      • 5245

                      #80
                      Originally posted by captrobey
                      This does make sense the most i guess. Funny thing is though when it happens and others can probably back me up on this. It is not really "Fun" when you do it. I mean the whole time i am sitting there i am basically nervous the whole time waiting for the dealer to start screwing me and hoping i will get lucky. I think it is more stressful to be honest then actually fun or relaxing. Sure, if i do get lucky and win i do feel better like you say, but the rest of the time is just more stress.

                      The hardest thing to explain is when the bad run starts happening i can see it and know it but i still do not stop. Like when i was down to $16000 with insane hands instead of seeing the crap for what it is like i should i just keep going. Is it dopamine that makes me lose it maybe though ? IDK but when it happens i pretty much shake and get so pissed off at being cheated that instead of stopping i get even angrier and more aggressive.
                      I was a casino pit boss for a number of years and watched what you are describing play out in front of me over and over. Watching people slowly program their brains to need to gamble so that their brain gets that Dopamine rush is one of the reasons I got out of the business. I'd watch people self ban only to watch them try and sneak into the casino early in the morning to avoid detection by staff. It broke my heart.
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                      • JAKEPEAVY21
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                        • 03-11-11
                        • 29443

                        #81
                        robey, reading through this thread, I don't think you are being completely honest with yourself or posters asking questions. I think you are minimizing how often you play in the online casinos. You are saying you don't deposit to play in the casino but if anyone has read your gambling threads, it's quite obvious that you go in and out numerous times daily. It is like a crack fiend going in for their fix. Be completely honest with yourself or you will never make positive steps to fix the problem.
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                        • shari91
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                          • 02-23-10
                          • 32661

                          #82
                          Originally posted by A4K
                          I was a casino pit boss for a number of years and watched what you are describing play out in front of me over and over. Watching people slowly program their brains to need to gamble so that their brain gets that Dopamine rush is one of the reasons I got out of the business. I'd watch people self ban only to watch them try and sneak into the casino early in the morning to avoid detection by staff. It broke my heart.
                          I can only imagine how difficult that would be. As much as we love gambling I'd like to hope the vast majority of it have a handle on it. Sure we'll get f'd off if we lose a bit and maybe even chase on another game or two but to realise you have a problem and then attempt to bypass the restrictions you put on yourself in a moment of clarity... my heart goes out to anyone in that boat.
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                          • sourtwist
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                            • 11-10-12
                            • 9364

                            #83
                            Lot of good responses without passing judgment. Cap always been a good guy hope he figures this out
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                            • pattymayo
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                              • 05-19-09
                              • 10221

                              #84
                              Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                              robey, reading through this thread, I don't think you are being completely honest with yourself or posters asking questions. I think you are minimizing how often you play in the online casinos. You are saying you don't deposit to play in the casino but if anyone has read your gambling threads, it's quite obvious that you go in and out numerous times daily. It is like a crack fiend going in for their fix. Be completely honest with yourself or you will never make positive steps to fix the problem.
                              Best post yet. Just read through this and hes constantly trying to justify his casino habits. “I need to find a way to get it banned” “I think I need to step away” “I’m trying to get it disabled”

                              Blah blah blah

                              Either man up and change or unfortunate to you’re going to be in this situation over and over again until you’ve lost it all. It’s that simple
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                              • captrobey
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                                • 09-02-10
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                                #85
                                Originally posted by konck
                                Total BS another employee with time on his hands
                                WTF Are you talking about ?
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                                • captrobey
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                                  • 09-02-10
                                  • 34384

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                  robey, reading through this thread, I don't think you are being completely honest with yourself or posters asking questions. I think you are minimizing how often you play in the online casinos. You are saying you don't deposit to play in the casino but if anyone has read your gambling threads, it's quite obvious that you go in and out numerous times daily. It is like a crack fiend going in for their fix. Be completely honest with yourself or you will never make positive steps to fix the problem.
                                  Yes i do go in there i have said that. But i do not go in there specifically all the time to just play in casino. Yes- sometimes. But mainly to sportsbet. Tropicana Casino where i lost $16000 i have never gone back once and they have called and sent me offers and even wanted to put some cash in there i guess to lure me back to lose more. But i never have even once felt like going back there . If i was addicted to just the casino i think i would have went back in there but i have not.

                                  I have asked myself why not there but then go on the other ones. The only thing i can think of is when i go in there it just sits there in front of me tempting me and i go in that is the only thing i can think of. Even like the night i won and got to over $15000 i was planning to cash out. I even told my wife i won that and was going to cash out $15000. I went in there looking at my balance next thing i am in there again losing it all.
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                                  • SEAHAWKHARRY
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                                    • 11-29-07
                                    • 26070

                                    #87
                                    Can't you still up you took withdrawals right. Turn off casino bro just sport bet I hope you get the right path going soo bro. Take care and u got this
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                                    • captrobey
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                                      • 09-02-10
                                      • 34384

                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                                      Capt Robey, respect your post for the honesty it displays. You wrote a lot. I'm going to digest it.

                                      I can say that gambling is meant to be done within limits. Can't play over your head. It's an old saying, but it's true.

                                      Sit back + re-evaluate. This is supposed to be fun.
                                      I have always prided myself on my honesty thank you for saying that .
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                                      • captrobey
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                                        • 09-02-10
                                        • 34384

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by SEAHAWKHARRY
                                        Can't you still up you took withdrawals right. Turn off casino bro just sport bet I hope you get the right path going soo bro. Take care and u got this
                                        Yes i am still up from the $46500 i netted. Since i start small when i hit big i am always nicely up. $350 to $30000 at Justbet and $360 i think it was to $16500 at Youwager. I always win enough over that to cover the fees.

                                        That is the one thing that i am trying to focus on to keep from throwing myself out a window lol. this has all happened since Jan . So lets see. Twice had 2 misses at GTbets all in for $10000 sportbetting . Had $7000 i lost in casino , this $18600 , so i have had my chances to win a lot more .
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                                        • captrobey
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                                          • 09-02-10
                                          • 34384

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by pattymayo
                                          Best post yet. Just read through this and hes constantly trying to justify his casino habits. “I need to find a way to get it banned” “I think I need to step away” “I’m trying to get it disabled”

                                          Blah blah blah

                                          Either man up and change or unfortunate to you’re going to be in this situation over and over again until you’ve lost it all. It’s that simple
                                          I am doing that . I figure i will take 2 weeks off away from making bets. When i start again i will ask to get as many blocked as i can prior to that. I really am not justifying going in there i know i cannot win and i know it is stupid i never denied that .
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                                          • captrobey
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                                            • 09-02-10
                                            • 34384

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by Shute
                                            Cap
                                            You got more coin than anyone here
                                            Just enjoy

                                            Luckily on top of everything else i do have a good job . I am not insanely rich by any means but i know i make more then an average person . I am always thankful for that especially in times like this.
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                                            • captrobey
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                                              • 09-02-10
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                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by shari91
                                              Online casinos scare the piss out of me purely because how I know how I've acted in real casinos when I've made a bunch and then lost back even a small portion of it. The chase begins and then suddenly not only have I lost my profit but I cash in more at the tables and suddenly I'd be in the hole big time. I can only imagine how I'd be playing online. The best thing you can do is take the advice of the others and self-exclude yourself from every online casino that you can think of. No judgement here though... at all

                                              I know and i have never seen you really judge anyone here either. Exactly what you said is what has happened to me. I have lost so much from the money i have won. I know online casinos are only there to take your cash especially what you win at sportsbettinmg. But i just keep going in there.
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                                              • Crusherrr
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                                                • 06-27-16
                                                • 3656

                                                #93
                                                One thing that you do that is good is you always start with a low amount of money. But after that it's irrelevant how much you have in the account you always chase your losses. Something is telling you that you need to get back to a certain amount. You turn your $300 into $4950 and for whatever reason you want more so you try and bet $50 to get to $5,000 like it's somehow going to make you that much happier or like you accomplished something greater getting the extra $50. Then you lose and you are at $4,900 and lose a couple more hands or bets and now you have $4,100 and you feel like you still need to get back what you now lost. You ignore the fact that in the last 4 days you turned $300 into nearly $5000. If you aren't willing to quit and give it up you need to at least learn when to stop and take breaks.

                                                I'm hoping this is all play money to you and you aren't taking equity from your home or spending the kids college money or whatever else. I understand there are large sums of money being won and lost here when you are playing but if it's entertainment money who am I to judge. I know lots of people that enter the WSOP every year and fire $10k on their team for NBA finals or Super Bowl etc. and I wouldn't consider their habits degenerate because it's expendable money to them.

                                                Either way, if you think you need to stop and it's causing you stress, your losing money you can't afford to lose or it's just taking too big a toll on you then you should at the very least give it a break. It's easier to do then you may think. You may not even miss the casino games.

                                                I know the feeling. It's just too easy to pop into the casino games, play a few hands and get back the losses from bets or whatever else but if you don't get that loss back or hit your target or goal then it's also very easy for everything to come crashing back down.

                                                I wish you the best of luck regardless of the decision you make. You are wise for stepping away for a bit and taking a break.
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                                                • BeatTheJerk
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                                                  • 08-19-07
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                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by ans61201
                                                  Eh I'd disagree. That's one of the problems people make betting online as opposed to in person. It's just numbers on the screen, and you're not physically pulling cash out of your pocket so it feels like it's different (that's why I stopped playing online poker for 100% live Poker)

                                                  But if you were in a casino, won 16000 grand in the sportsbook, walked up to your hotel room took a shower went back downstairs and lost it on a slot machine I'd fee like I just lost 16 grand.

                                                  How much has it cost him from deposits, sure you can go that method but he could also say 0 using that method as his other 46k win covers that using that logic.

                                                  How much have you lost at the casino slots/BJ total
                                                  I’ve won nearly 3,500 in online casinos with free plays to complete rollovers. I’ve never used my own money with online casinos, NEVER. Now in real life casinos I’ve won nearly 2,000 & lost 2,500 so my net loss is -500 usd. I was referring to his bottom line.
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                                                  • captrobey
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                                                    • 09-02-10
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                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                                                    I never got into casino games - just sportsbook - bro next time you win big - cash that bitch out and reload few hundreds - you have been on a monster run that most gamblers wish for
                                                    I just wish i would have done that i get it up there and i keep blowing it . One other thing i think that does help is playing at books with higher withdraw limits . That way it all just does not sit there tempting you to lay with it still. JB i cashed out the entire thing $20000 and $10000 all at once. YW $9000 and then $7500 all at once. When some places make you wait to get $2000-$3000 every 2-3 weeks and you have $15000 sitting there it is easy to go and keep playing it or lose in casino .
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                                                    • sweethook
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                                                      • 11-21-07
                                                      • 12667

                                                      #96
                                                      sorry to hear this . but its a EASY FIX , try giving more money$ to charities and dont stop giving it , start with your local SPCA . the more you give the less youl have to lose . its a win win for you , youl love yourself and il love you more to ... gl
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                                                      • captrobey
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                                                        • 09-02-10
                                                        • 34384

                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by Crusherrr
                                                        One thing that you do that is good is you always start with a low amount of money. But after that it's irrelevant how much you have in the account you always chase your losses. Something is telling you that you need to get back to a certain amount. You turn your $300 into $4950 and for whatever reason you want more so you try and bet $50 to get to $5,000 like it's somehow going to make you that much happier or like you accomplished something greater getting the extra $50. Then you lose and you are at $4,900 and lose a couple more hands or bets and now you have $4,100 and you feel like you still need to get back what you now lost. You ignore the fact that in the last 4 days you turned $300 into nearly $5000. If you aren't willing to quit and give it up you need to at least learn when to stop and take breaks.

                                                        I'm hoping this is all play money to you and you aren't taking equity from your home or spending the kids college money or whatever else. I understand there are large sums of money being won and lost here when you are playing but if it's entertainment money who am I to judge. I know lots of people that enter the WSOP every year and fire $10k on their team for NBA finals or Super Bowl etc. and I wouldn't consider their habits degenerate because it's expendable money to them.

                                                        Either way, if you think you need to stop and it's causing you stress, your losing money you can't afford to lose or it's just taking too big a toll on you then you should at the very least give it a break. It's easier to do then you may think. You may not even miss the casino games.

                                                        I know the feeling. It's just too easy to pop into the casino games, play a few hands and get back the losses from bets or whatever else but if you don't get that loss back or hit your target or goal then it's also very easy for everything to come crashing back down.

                                                        I wish you the best of luck regardless of the decision you make. You are wise for stepping away for a bit and taking a break.

                                                        YES YES YES YES and YES . That is EXACTLY how i feel. the only thing is when i start losing i get more and more mad and more and more out of control. The more insane the hands get the more mad and out of control i get. It is like i KNOW i am being cheated but i want to punish myself for being stupid and playing it.

                                                        I have hurt myself when i lost the $16000 from money being saved for a house . But i put half of it back from the $46000 when i won it. The $16000 at Tropicana was ALL my money .

                                                        It is funny because although i am good at sportsbetting i as everyone else have had some really bad runs with insane losses. Anyone that followed my picks on my other thread though the years know what i mean. But even though i get mad it is not the same because at least i dont feel i was cheated . The casino not only have i lost my money but i have to live with that i knew it was rigged but for some stupid reason i went in there and lost it all anyway. Plus, another tough thing that plays on me(anyone)in this position is that when you watch games and get a streak going and win a lot it was all for nothing.. Not ONLY do you lose the money but you wasted all the TIME you spent watching the game and all the emotion you experience when you have won a big game. It was all for nothing.

                                                        So no i have not lost the kids college money, we dont have kids anyway . And the home is paid for. But like i said i did take out an amount out from my house savings when i lost the $16000.

                                                        It is funny because that $50 thing is what i have done many times. Just this last one i was going to stop at $19000 . I was at $18600 only needed a lousy $400 . If at a B & M casino i probably could have did it 90 out of 100 times. But online . Funny thing i was over $15000 after the sports win the night before and went in there just wanting to win enough to cover the fees. I ended up getting to $18600. And i STOPPED . I was happy there . Then the next morning i lost it all thinking i can get to $19000 and stop.
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                                                        • daneblazer
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                                                          • 09-14-08
                                                          • 27861

                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by captrobey
                                                          . I mean at a live casino i win a decent amount 80% of the times and come out ahead playing basic strategy .

                                                          Oh stop it
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                                                          • captrobey
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                                                            • 09-02-10
                                                            • 34384

                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by daneblazer
                                                            Oh stop it
                                                            Stop what? At a live casino i most of the time walk away with a nice profit. As long as the cards are fair.
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                                                            • captrobey
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                                                              • 09-02-10
                                                              • 34384

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by daneblazer
                                                              Oh stop it
                                                              This is ONLY at BJ i rarely play slots and sometimes i play roulette but BJ i almost always come out ahead.
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                                                              • BeatTheJerk
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                                                                • 08-19-07
                                                                • 31794

                                                                #101
                                                                Hey Cap don’t slowly convince yourself you can win that money back. Even if you did win it back. You would automatically have a new goal to obtain/amount with your winnings & you’d lose it again. The moral of the story is “The more you play, the more you lose” especially with your compulsiveness !
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                                                                • BeatTheJerk
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                                                                  • 08-19-07
                                                                  • 31794

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Get help pal !
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                                                                  • daneblazer
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                                                                    • 09-14-08
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                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by captrobey
                                                                    This is ONLY at BJ i rarely play slots and sometimes i play roulette but BJ i almost always come out ahead.

                                                                    Theres people here better than me at sports betting and better than me at poker. I’m up signifantly lifetime in poker. That is large in part due to bankroll management. Half of the battle is walking past the slots greyhounds and baccarat tables on my way out. There’s not a swinging dikk alive who wins 80% of the time. That tells me you’re delusional. Hate to be a dikk but it’s time to figure things out or stop gambling. Sympathy gets you no where. Matter of fact it gets you in trouble. Good advice in this thread. Take some it. Good luck buddy
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                                                                    • opie1988
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                                                                      • 09-12-10
                                                                      • 23429

                                                                      #104
                                                                      NOBODY, besides the casino, almost always comes out ahead on Blackjack.
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                                                                      • jjgold
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                                        • 388179

                                                                        #105
                                                                        The second best advice to the start with a small amount and when you lose don’t do it for a little bit
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