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  • Dbldown11
    SBR MVP
    • 08-17-06
    • 3605

    #1
    Recomendations for getting a good sized roll....
    I've come to the conclusion that unless I have a big enough bankroll (5-10K) sports betting will always be too up and down for me. I just don't have enough money available to gamble within my means in a fashion that will be consistantly profitable.

    I'm a fairly consistant picker but since I dont have a large roll I do stupid things like bet parlays and bet certain games more than I should in comparison to the size of my roll. And I deffinately do not have the patience to start like 20 bucks a game and gradually work my way up over a long period of time. How do you guys do it (those of you that do, since I'm assuming most don't have the discipline)

    Maybe I'll start a community drive in by hometown haha. Once I get the information for where you can make donations I'll post it here so all you SBR members can donate to a good cause haha.
  • Richkas
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-03-08
    • 19396

    #2
    play 10 cent superfectas
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    • xyzky
      SBR MVP
      • 08-23-07
      • 1577

      #3
      It's good to see you back around here Dbldown!!

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      • Doc JS
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 09-15-06
        • 6885

        #4
        Originally posted by Dbldown11
        I've come to the conclusion that unless I have a big enough bankroll (5-10K) sports betting will always be too up and down for me. I just don't have enough money available to gamble within my means in a fashion that will be consistantly profitable.

        I'm a fairly consistant picker but since I dont have a large roll I do stupid things like bet parlays and bet certain games more than I should in comparison to the size of my roll. And I deffinately do not have the patience to start like 20 bucks a game and gradually work my way up over a long period of time. How do you guys do it (those of you that do, since I'm assuming most don't have the discipline)

        Maybe I'll start a community drive in by hometown haha. Once I get the information for where you can make donations I'll post it here so all you SBR members can donate to a good cause haha.
        You don't have a bankroll problem...

        You have a money managment problem. Until you fix that, you will never be profitable in the long run. It will just take you longer to lose all your money with a larger bankroll.

        Doc
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        • durito
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 07-03-06
          • 13173

          #5
          If you are capable of identifying +ev wagers and have decent risk management you should have no problem growing a decent sized bankroll out of nothing.
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          • durito
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 07-03-06
            • 13173

            #6
            If you don't have the patience to properly stake your wagers when your bet size is $20, you won't be able to do it properly when your bet size is $2,000 either.
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            • OB 2138
              Restricted User
              • 06-10-09
              • 574

              #7
              pick a unit size..say 20 bucks, 100 bucks, I do about 7% of my roll..And STICK WITH IT! treat every game the same, there are NO LOCKS..This also helps keep pressure off of you, you'll find yourself betting games that you wouldn't in the past and you will win more. You just gotta stick to your plan and never start pressing to try and make a few extra bucks, thats what kills your roll..what i also do is look at the games but minimize the screen so I can only see the teams and pitchers(no lines)..Then go through all the teams and see who you really like to win, write them down and put a line range from which your willing to play on the game, say you like the cubs and feel that if the lines between -110 and -125 thats a play. Then go ahead and look at the lines, if your predictions fit, play it. Your roll will grow faster than you expect.
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              • BeatTheJerk
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 08-19-07
                • 31802

                #8
                Originally posted by Dbldown11
                I've come to the conclusion that unless I have a big enough bankroll (5-10K) sports betting will always be too up and down for me. I just don't have enough money available to gamble within my means in a fashion that will be consistantly profitable.

                I'm a fairly consistant picker but since I dont have a large roll I do stupid things like bet parlays and bet certain games more than I should in comparison to the size of my roll. And I deffinately do not have the patience to start like 20 bucks a game and gradually work my way up over a long period of time. How do you guys do it (those of you that do, since I'm assuming most don't have the discipline)

                Maybe I'll start a community drive in by hometown haha. Once I get the information for where you can make donations I'll post it here so all you SBR members can donate to a good cause haha.
                I really couldn't describe my betting flaws any better than this. I have this same exact problem, and I need to bet more with in my means of my Bankroll to have more longevity of success ..................
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                • oiler
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 06-06-09
                  • 6585

                  #9
                  Originally posted by OB 2138
                  pick a unit size..say 20 bucks, 100 bucks, I do about 7% of my roll..And STICK WITH IT! treat every game the same, there are NO LOCKS..This also helps keep pressure off of you, you'll find yourself betting games that you wouldn't in the past and you will win more. You just gotta stick to your plan and never start pressing to try and make a few extra bucks, thats what kills your roll..what i also do is look at the games but minimize the screen so I can only see the teams and pitchers(no lines)..Then go through all the teams and see who you really like to win, write them down and put a line range from which your willing to play on the game, say you like the cubs and feel that if the lines between -110 and -125 thats a play. Then go ahead and look at the lines, if your predictions fit, play it. Your roll will grow faster than you expect.
                  that sounds like a great plan.will have to try that.im always looking at the lines when i play.something that i probably shouldnt do
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                  • lakerboy
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 04-02-09
                    • 94464

                    #10
                    First off stop betting baseball. Bet only NBA and NFL. Those 2 sports have the easiest situations to pick totals and stay away from sides. All my bets are 100 minimum as my bookie wont play less than that. And there is a such thing as lock games cause nobody would gamble huge if there wasnt. Look at CK he is the best capper on this forum bar none and he has heavy plays and crumbs. Do research and be wise.
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                    • durito
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 07-03-06
                      • 13173

                      #11
                      Bet only NBA and NFL.
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                      • BeatTheJerk
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 08-19-07
                        • 31802

                        #12
                        Also winning 100 bucks on a game just doesn't excite me enough to want to stick with that figure and obviously going lower won't help my problem. I just need more patience like Durito said, and that's not the easiest of things to practice when you have bet outside of your BR since day one. It's an everyday struggle for me !
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                        • englishmike
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 06-19-08
                          • 5279

                          #13
                          Originally posted by lakerboy
                          Look at CK he is the best capper on this forum bar none
                          Who's CK?
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                          • lakerboy
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 04-02-09
                            • 94464

                            #14
                            [quote=englishmike;1962921]Who's CK?[/quote]


                            Asking that question says all it needs to say about you. You laugh at me cause i only bet nfl and nba sorry mike that is my main card and makes me the most earnings. Yes i do bet for fun on mlb, soccer and horses but not seriously into that.
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                            • CaneDawg
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 08-25-08
                              • 6256

                              #15
                              Originally posted by englishmike
                              Who's CK?
                              i think its cock knocker

                              he only posts in the nba, nfl, etc handicap forums
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                              • englishmike
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 06-19-08
                                • 5279

                                #16
                                [quote=lakerboy;1962929]
                                Originally posted by englishmike
                                Who's CK?[/quote]


                                Asking that question says all it needs to say about you. You laugh at me cause i only bet nfl and nba sorry mike that is my main card and makes me the most earnings. Yes i do bet for fun on mlb, soccer and horses but not seriously into that.
                                1) I never lauged at you, I simply asked a question.

                                2) What do you mean: 'Asking that question says all it needs to say about you.

                                Why? I just want to know who CK is. Stop makiing a simple question complicated.

                                Who is CK?
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                                • englishmike
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 06-19-08
                                  • 5279

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by CaneDawg
                                  i think its cock knocker

                                  he only posts in the nba, nfl, etc handicap forums
                                  Thanks Caner, these names mean noyhing to me, I pick my own games.
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                                  • lakerboy
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 04-02-09
                                    • 94464

                                    #18
                                    [quote=englishmike;1962934]
                                    Originally posted by lakerboy

                                    1) I never lauged at you, I simply asked a question.

                                    2) What do you mean: 'Asking that question says all it needs to say about you.

                                    Why? I just want to know who CK is. Stop makiing a simple question complicated.

                                    Who is CK?
                                    Ck is cocknocker i would say if you frequent this forum you should know who cocknocker is. No complications here. You being here for that long i thought you would know who ck is. i apologize that was Durito.
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                                    • durito
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 07-03-06
                                      • 13173

                                      #19
                                      ah no, that was me
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                                      • lakerboy
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 04-02-09
                                        • 94464

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by durito
                                        ah no, that was me

                                        You can laugh all u want but thats what has worked for me
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                                        • englishmike
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 06-19-08
                                          • 5279

                                          #21
                                          [quote=lakerboy;1962939]
                                          Originally posted by englishmike

                                          Ck is cocknocker i would say if you frequent this forum you should know who cocknocker is. No complications here. You being here for that long i thought you would know who ck is.
                                          I didn't laugh at anyone. Go back and look. Why would I know this guy? I pick my own games.
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                                          • lakerboy
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 04-02-09
                                            • 94464

                                            #22
                                            [quote=englishmike;1962961]
                                            Originally posted by lakerboy

                                            I didn't laugh at anyone. Go back and look. Why would I know this guy? I pick my own games.

                                            im not saying i dont cap games but he is one of the best at it. I play totals and he doesnt really play much totals.
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                                            • paco
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 05-07-09
                                              • 62873

                                              #23
                                              i have similiar problem, i use to bet 100 every game, but then if it was televised i would say to myself " if i watch this at the bar, my tab would be between 60-70, and ill only profit 30?",, and end up goung much bigger like 3-400 and wow, the stupidest move of all time. National Televised games are the worse games to bet IMO
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                                              • reno cool
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 07-02-08
                                                • 3567

                                                #24
                                                I would bet that the vast majority of gamblers blaming their losses on poor money management are simply losing players who are not making advantage bets. Quit kidding yourselves. Keep records.
                                                bird bird da bird's da word
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                                                • Sawyer
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 06-01-09
                                                  • 7823

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                  First off stop betting baseball. Bet only NBA and NFL. Those 2 sports have the easiest situations to pick totals and stay away from sides. All my bets are 100 minimum as my bookie wont play less than that. And there is a such thing as lock games cause nobody would gamble huge if there wasnt. Look at CK he is the best capper on this forum bar none and he has heavy plays and crumbs. Do research and be wise.
                                                  Excuse me, Please don't be offended but..

                                                  Are you serious?!

                                                  C'mon! NFL is Vegas' Moneymaker! It's the hardest of all!
                                                  NBA is not easy since the lines are very sharp! (At least for last 2 years)

                                                  Baseball?

                                                  Baseball is one of the most profitable sports, thanks to the 162-game Schedule! Many books are glad to get break-even after a baseball season.

                                                  Hockey + Baseball = Easy Money
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                                                  • Doc JS
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 09-15-06
                                                    • 6885

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                    First off stop betting baseball. Bet only NBA and NFL.
                                                    Just because that's what's worked for you doesn't necessairly mean that's what will work for him.

                                                    I think it depends on the individual...
                                                    I do better betting CFB than the NFL. I do better betting CBB than NBA.

                                                    Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                    Those 2 sports have the easiest situations to pick totals and stay away from sides.
                                                    Again, some people suck at totals. I know. I'm one of those!

                                                    As durito posted, identify +EV wagers, apply sound money management skills, that's the secret to long term success.

                                                    Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                    And there is a such thing as lock games cause nobody would gamble huge if there wasnt.
                                                    Certainly disagree. There are no locks.

                                                    If you'be been around here long, surely you've noticed that well over 50% of the "LOCKS" posted here at SBR lose.

                                                    Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                    Do research and be wise.
                                                    Agree 100%

                                                    Doc
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                                                    • Dbldown11
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 08-17-06
                                                      • 3605

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by durito
                                                      If you don't have the patience to properly stake your wagers when your bet size is $20, you won't be able to do it properly when your bet size is $2,000 either.
                                                      See that's where I disagree. If I'm betting $20 a day and could manage to average +1 unit a day that would make me 20 bucks a day (less with the juice). I don't have the patience to make 20 bucks a day.

                                                      If my unit size was 2K and I could manage +1 unit a day I'd be making 2K a day less the juice which is something I could have the patience for
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                                                      • Sawyer
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 06-01-09
                                                        • 7823

                                                        #28
                                                        Hey guys!

                                                        Picking correct winners is not an easy task I know but keeping self-control is the biggest Challenge!

                                                        Let's say you got 5000$ bankroll. You decided to pick Giants and you're sure about it. It's a LOCK in your opinion. However, if you're betting more than 250$, you should quit betting immediately..

                                                        Never bet more than %5 of your bankroll. If your bankroll is above 10k, your bet size should be something like %2 or %3.

                                                        Be sure that %98 of sports bettors can't control themselves and they ignore this rule.

                                                        I started sports betting in 2003..

                                                        2008 was the first year that I made profit..

                                                        03, 04, 05, 06, 07.. All these years, I made my bookie rich. Can you believe it?

                                                        Then I started out with 1,000 bankroll in 2008. I always sticked with my plan. Never play parlays and never play more than %5 of your bankroll. My friends were laughing because I was betting 50$ each game. Their bankroll was lesser than 1k but they were placing higher wagers than me..

                                                        However, in the end of month, the only one who made profit was me. Their bankroll was zero..

                                                        Right now, my bankroll is 19k. Thanks to patience and self-control. I must admit that I'm not a great capper. I never hit 20 games in a row and my winning rate is not above %59. However, I'm a patient person and I always sticked with my plan.

                                                        Everybody is trying to masterize capping skills but they don't pay attention to money management skills. Just google it! Type sports betting, money management, professional handicapper in google and learn new things everyday! We should educate ourselves if we want to be a professional someday..

                                                        GL!
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                                                        • Dbldown11
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 08-17-06
                                                          • 3605

                                                          #29
                                                          Thanks for the insights Sawyer
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                                                          • durito
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 07-03-06
                                                            • 13173

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Dbldown11
                                                            See that's where I disagree. If I'm betting $20 a day and could manage to average +1 unit a day that would make me 20 bucks a day (less with the juice). I don't have the patience to make 20 bucks a day.

                                                            If my unit size was 2K and I could manage +1 unit a day I'd be making 2K a day less the juice which is something I could have the patience for
                                                            Your "unit" size should be a percent of your bankroll. If your unit is 1% of your bankroll and you are really making +1 a day, it doesn't matter how small your bankroll currently is, it will soon be huge.
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                                                            • MonkeyF0cker
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 06-12-07
                                                              • 12144

                                                              #31
                                                              Learn to be patient. There is no other way.
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                                                              • Dbldown11
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 08-17-06
                                                                • 3605

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by durito
                                                                Your "unit" size should be a percent of your bankroll. If your unit is 1% of your bankroll and you are really making +1 a day, it doesn't matter how small your bankroll currently is, it will soon be huge.
                                                                huge comparatively speaking in terms of how large the original bankroll was....not huge in terms of actual money
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                                                                • englishmike
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 06-19-08
                                                                  • 5279

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I think his point is, if you really make 1 unit per-day it wouldnt take long to increase any size roll.
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                                                                  • xxdjstriderxx
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 11-25-08
                                                                    • 4740

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by xyzky
                                                                    It's good to see you back around here Dbldown!!

                                                                    http://forum.sbrforum.com/college-fo...all-quits.html
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                                                                    • ICE-BLOOD
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 07-21-08
                                                                      • 1004

                                                                      #35
                                                                      keep focused on success for the journey, not the monetary prize at the end
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