Laying horses - Starting from Feb-12-2018

**arie1985** · 02-26-18, 05:58 AM

Originally posted by arie1985

Oh no, 2 good horses in this race are "late scratching" - that's not good, odds dropped on Toonani from 200 to 100, and there are less competitors now... race is also delayed to start in 1 or 2 minutes or so.

Regardless the horse didn't win, but it's not the first time I see these extremely late scratches in South Africa.

**arie1985** · 02-26-18, 06:21 AM

Race 3 in Flamingo Park, South Africa:

Good Luck!

**arie1985** · 02-26-18, 07:02 AM

This is an example for a horse you'd rather not mess up with:

Wins To Date 0Place To Date 0Runs To Date 1

The fact it made only 1 run so far means the oddsmakers don't know enough about this horse, and usually these "longshot" winners are ones with a slim record where the oddsmakers couldn't study that horse well enough.

Another issue with this horse - it is only 3 years old. It's a relatively young horse that could still make some surprises.

The underdogs in the next race in Plumpton seem a better choice in terms of odds, age and racing record (and they are already 1000 to 1 in the offerings, so can only take them in live).

I thought some people here pointed out that even their grandma can easily lay 100 to 1 one after another, right?

**arie1985** · 02-26-18, 07:22 AM

Race 5 in Flamingo Park, South Africa:

Good Luck!

**Gaze73** · 02-26-18, 07:51 AM

Originally posted by arie1985

What do you mean?

It looks like your account is in PTE instead of EUR, but PTE is a dead currency.

**arie1985** · 02-26-18, 09:10 AM

Originally posted by arie1985

This is an example for a horse you'd rather not mess up with:

Wins To Date 0Place To Date 0Runs To Date 1

The fact it made only 1 run so far means the oddsmakers don't know enough about this horse, and usually these "longshot" winners are ones with a slim record where the oddsmakers couldn't study that horse well enough.

Another issue with this horse - it is only 3 years old. It's a relatively young horse that could still make some surprises.

The underdogs in the next race in Plumpton seem a better choice in terms of odds, age and racing record (and they are already 1000 to 1 in the offerings, so can only take them in live).

I thought some people here pointed out that even their grandma can easily lay 100 to 1 one after another, right?

I managed to get a live betting on one of them as mentioned above:

Good Luck!

**arie1985** · 02-26-18, 09:11 AM

Originally posted by Gaze73

It looks like your account is in PTE instead of EUR, but PTE is a dead currency.

I have no idea why it's showing PTE, but if you look at post #1 in this thread I'm using AsianConnect and that's how they provide a EUR account.

**arie1985** · 02-26-18, 09:24 AM

Race 2 in Lingfield Park (UK):

Good Luck!

**arie1985** · 02-26-18, 11:42 AM

Plumpton 16:40pm UK Race:

Good Luck!

**arie1985** · 02-26-18, 02:17 PM

Parx Racing (US) - Race 4:

Good Luck!

**cutchemist42** · 02-26-18, 08:47 PM

Miss having Betfair access as a Canadian. Used to love laying horses, i became pretty good at figuring out which early speed would fade.

**arie1985** · 02-26-18, 09:52 PM

Originally posted by cutchemist42

Miss having Betfair access as a Canadian. Used to love laying horses, i became pretty good at figuring out which early speed would fade.

I'm using 9Wickets, not BetFair, that is via an agent (AsianConnect88). 9Wickets does rely on BetFair (I think it's their external product).
Deposits are instant.
Withdrawals are instant.

You shouldn't experience these terrible issues some users report here from websites such as DSI or even "good" websites that process withdrawals every 48 hours or once a week .... I don't think there is a better service than AsianConnect88, they are simply the best.

**arie1985** · 02-27-18, 05:37 AM

Race 8 from Young, Australia, sorry for the delay, was using my mobile @ this time:

**arie1985** · 02-27-18, 05:40 AM

Race 9 & Final Race for Today - Young, Australia:

Good Luck!

**arie1985** · 02-27-18, 06:29 AM

Race 1 in Kenilworth, South Africa:

Good Luck!

**jjgold** · 02-27-18, 06:36 AM

I notice 9wickets is not the same software as betfair

No cashouts available during matches like betfair

**arie1985** · 02-27-18, 07:25 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

I notice 9wickets is not the same software as betfair

No cashouts available during matches like betfair

If you lay horses you don't need this feature, and yes, 9Wickets is not full of features like BetFair but it does provide quite a good experience.

**arie1985** · 02-27-18, 07:35 AM

Race 3 in Kenilworth, South Africa:

Good Luck!

**arie1985** · 02-27-18, 08:46 AM

Lingfield (UK) - Race 1:

Good Luck!

**arie1985** · 02-27-18, 08:54 AM

Btw this is the horse I'm going against in this 1000 meter race:

It was 101 when I first looked at him (or: her) @ Bet365, now shows 67, but Interbet.co.za has it for 126.

**littlekona** · 02-27-18, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by arie1985

If you lay horses you don't need this feature, and yes, 9Wickets is not full of features like BetFair but it does provide quite a good experience.

YES!! Great Experience for us guys who cant get full blown betfair....LOVE IT for horseracing! Sports side though is not great no spreads or total over NBA and no hockey at all

**jjgold** · 02-27-18, 01:35 PM

do you guys realize you can log on usa ip address also

Wickets excellent tennis, soccer, horses

NBA not bad ML

We need some more handicap markets

**littlekona** · 02-27-18, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

do you guys realize you can log on usa ip address also

Wickets excellent tennis, soccer, horses

NBA not bad ML

We need some more handicap markets

for what they have its excellent plus they grade fast..But JJ is right markets are strange No spreads in Bball and No Hockey at all

**jjgold** · 02-27-18, 02:33 PM

I already on them about ....

asian time zone
handicaps tennis , soccer , American sports
golf

I cannot figure it out..API is given to them for entire betfair feed..makes no sense

$10 minimum horses I do not like

**arie1985** · 02-27-18, 02:44 PM

I tried to upload it on time before the race but my Internet connection didn't let me access imgur.com so I had to use a proxy.
That is my last bet for today, have a good night all of you - or good day wherever you are.

PS the bet is from Race 1 from Sunland Park.

**arie1985** · 02-27-18, 03:08 PM

Managed to get this one as well from Sam Houston - Race 5:

Good Luck & Good Night!

**Underdog5229** · 02-27-18, 03:11 PM

Arie can you keep a running total profit/loss either on each new race or alteast daily? I like the $ won figures. Thanks and good luck

**arie1985** · 02-27-18, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by Underdog5229

Arie can you keep a running total profit/loss either on each new race or alteast daily? I like the $ won figures. Thanks and good luck

Sure, I can always generate it from the account, here you go:

Feb 2018 --> 1,805.33 EUR (Net, i.e. after 3% 9Wickets fee & incl. all losses --> was mainly 1 loss in the beginning of this thread)
Yesterday --> 390.13 EUR (Net)
2 Days Ago --> 161.34 EUR (Net)
Last 7 days --> 1534.30 EUR (Net)

**Underdog5229** · 02-27-18, 03:39 PM

Originally posted by arie1985

Sure, I can always generate it from the account, here you go:

Feb 2018 --> 1,805.33 EUR (Net, i.e. after 3% 9Wickets fee & incl. all losses --> was mainly 1 loss in the beginning of this thread)
Yesterday --> 390.13 EUR (Net)
2 Days Ago --> 161.34 EUR (Net)
Last 7 days --> 1534.30 EUR (Net)

Perfect Arie Thanks

**littlekona** · 02-27-18, 06:00 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

I already on them about ....

asian time zone
handicaps tennis , soccer , American sports
golf

I cannot figure it out..API is given to them for entire betfair feed..makes no sense

$10 minimum horses I do not like

I also asked AC to asked them...the only exchange that I know of is Fairlay that has low stake of .01 MBTC... I like 9wickets better for horses esp if I am short and want lightning fast grades but I use fairlay and matchbook too....All three are very good exchanges

**jjgold** · 02-27-18, 08:00 PM

tremendous thread

**arie1985** · 02-27-18, 09:24 PM

Good morning everyone. Take a look @ this one from Race 6 in Pukekohe, New Zealand:

It starts in about 4 minutes.

**arie1985** · 02-27-18, 09:29 PM

Got it matched for 30.65 EUR:

Good Luck!

**arie1985** · 02-27-18, 09:37 PM

Next race is in about 25 minutes, looking @ this one:

I will see if I can get it matched, have to go out somewhere so might do it from my phone.

**arie1985** · 02-27-18, 11:55 PM

Originally posted by arie1985

Next race is in about 25 minutes, looking @ this one:

I will see if I can get it matched, have to go out somewhere so might do it from my phone.

I managed to get only 0.60 EUR from this one. This one is from the final race in Pukekohe:

Checking prices now, race starts in about 2 minutes.