Steelers ML +115

JIBBBY · 12-17-17, 07:45 PM

Originally posted by Roadtrip635

Same call as the Dez catch against Green Bay in the playoffs. Crappy call, but at least they were consistent. Most people would have called both of those catches TDs, but not the NFL.

I remember that.. This IMO was more obvious.. Dude caught it with both hands and had control as he crossed the goal line...

Ruling on the field was a TD.. Hard to over turn then after..

Kermit · 12-17-17, 07:46 PM

Calvin Johnson rule

Kermit · 12-17-17, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

I remember that.. This IMO was more obvious.. Dude caught it with both hands and had control as he crossed the goal line...

Ruling on the field was a TD.. Hard to over turn then after..

If the ball wouldn't have been moving when it hit the ground, the TD would have stood.

The Giant · 12-17-17, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by RudyRuetigger

who cares

it is considered a catch if you have 2 feet down, elbow down, or knee down

after that, ok you can go to a football move

he had knee down and made a football move with the ball

worst case scenario should be ball at 1 inch line

but in reality, if he lost control, it should be a catch, fumble, and gains control of ball in endzone

THANKS

It's hard to believe with this much energy you'll be sound asleep within an hour.

What does the board say to that?

THANKS.

DOM-Ganador · 12-17-17, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by The Giant

Draw your own conclusions.

No ? that is a catch. Live I thought 100% and was chirping what a game/comeback/fight. Pitt deserved to win.

But by the rules, as soon as I saw it on replay, I knew Pats have a lifeline.
From that point on. Pitt screwed up. not throwing to endzone or at least OOBs.
Not spiking with 12 seconds and tying the game.

2 distinct sides to this, as usual.

All and all a really great Sunday...Jimmy G. winning another one.

MoneyLineDawg · 12-17-17, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by Kermit

Ball clearly is moving when it hits the ground. He never completed the catch.

Ball is clearly moving but is his arm underneath or in between the ball and the ground?

If it 100% hits the ground it’s incomplete because of a dumb fukkin rule which is a different argument

Auto Donk · 12-17-17, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by Roadtrip635

And Romo was calling the game today too.

holy shit.... i was wondering outloud to my wife "who the fuk is this annoying prick?"

too funny....

The Giant · 12-17-17, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by Kermit

Ball clearly is moving when it hits the ground. He never completed the catch.

The tip of the ball hit as he was going down.

Easy call.

Kermit · 12-17-17, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg

Ball is clearly moving but is his arm underneath or in between the ball and the ground?

If it 100% hits the ground it’s incomplete because of a dumb fukkin rule which is a different argument

Now that I've watched it again, his hand even came off of the ball and he didn't even have control of it.

JIBBBY · 12-17-17, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by Kermit

If the ball wouldn't have been moving when it hit the ground, the TD would have stood.

Kermy I love ya man but I gotta disagree with ya on this.. I understand you have to have control after the catch or make a football move but in that situation I think he made the catch with two hands and controlled ball crossing the goal line.. knee and was down and the ruling on the field was a TD...

MoneyLineDawg · 12-17-17, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by The Giant

Draw your own conclusions.

Is there space between the ground and ball? If we can’t be 100% sure shouldn’t we stick with the call on the field?

The Giant · 12-17-17, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by DOM-Ganador

All and all a really great Sunday...Jimmy G. winning another one.

The 49ers will win a Super Bowl within 3-5 years.

Jimmy G is legit.

Auto Donk · 12-17-17, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by The Giant

It's hard to believe with this much energy you'll be sound asleep within an hour.

What does the board say to that?

THANKS.

guy shoulda been hung like certain sbr members, catch would've been complete once his crank hit the turf if he was......

RudyRuetigger · 12-17-17, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by The Giant

It's hard to believe with this much energy you'll be sound asleep within an hour.

What does the board say to that?

THANKS.

Board confirms you cannot beat me in poker and instead bitch about it

hey giant show me your wall

i bet there atleast 3 holes from wall punches where i beat you for like 200 points

i cannot believe you are still this angry about it

jtoler · 12-17-17, 07:50 PM

Originally posted by Kermit

Ball clearly is moving when it hits the ground. He never completed the catch.

Lol at the background. But it looks like his hand is under the ball. How can you tell if its not, if you cant tell then call on field should stand

The Giant · 12-17-17, 07:50 PM

Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg

Is there space between the ground and ball? If we can’t be 100% sure shouldn’t we stick with the call on the field?

I couldn't tell by watching it live, but if you watch that video Kermit posted. It looks like the tip of the ball hit right as he was going down. 25 second mark.

KRIT · 12-17-17, 07:51 PM

Wow, tough loss. Looks like another SB with Brady.

PAULYPOKER · 12-17-17, 07:51 PM

He was on the fukkin ground when he caught it,,,,,,,,,,

His football move was his reach (after he caught it as it wouldn't of been possible if he did not have control the ball) over the goal line........

Once Ball breaks plane there is no such thing as a fumble period DOT end......................

MiDNiTe · 12-17-17, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by The Giant

The 49ers will win a Super Bowl within 3-5 years.

Jimmy G is legit.

Agree with that, Sf have shirty weapons too atm

RudyRuetigger · 12-17-17, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by PAULYPOKER

He was on the fukkin ground when he caught it,,,,,,,,,,

His football move was his reach (after he caught it as it wouldn't of been possible if he did not have control the ball) over the goal line........

Once Ball breaks plane there is no such thing as a fumble period DOT end......................

great post bro

if only someone said this sooner

Originally posted by RudyRuetigger

who cares

Originally posted by RudyRuetigger

it is considered a catch if you have 2 feet down, elbow down, or knee down

after that, ok you can go to a football move

he had knee down and made a football move with the ball

worst case scenario should be ball at 1 inch line

but in reality, if he lost control, it should be a catch, fumble, and gains control of ball in endzone

THANKS

The Giant · 12-17-17, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by MiDNiTe

Agree with that, Sf have shirty weapons too atm

Good coach.

Good quarterback.

It's all you need in this league.

Auto Donk · 12-17-17, 07:54 PM

here...

here it is....

a real f'n fuk job:

jtoler · 12-17-17, 07:54 PM

Touchdown, only way to overrule it is you need to see the ball touch the ground and not his hand underneath it, you cant tell so call on field should stand.

Kermit · 12-17-17, 07:55 PM

Originally posted by PAULYPOKER

He was on the fukkin ground when he caught it,,,,,,,,,,

His football move was his reach (after he caught it as it wouldn't of been possible if he did not have control the ball) over the goal line........

Once Ball breaks plane there is no such thing as a fumble period DOT end......................

Actually he was in the air when he caught it, but lost control of it when he reached out with it trying to break the plane. This all happened in the same motion which was in the process of making the catch.

If he would have caught the ball and been running with it and dove into the endzone and that same thing happened, the TD would have stood.

Auto Donk · 12-17-17, 07:57 PM

Originally posted by jtoler

Touchdown, only way to overrule it is you need to see the ball touch the ground and not his hand underneath it, you cant tell so call on field should stand.

i ruled no catch live, and knew it was about to be overruled the second I saw the replay..... kinda sucks, as I 'd have preferred the steelers to win, in hind sight

jtoler · 12-17-17, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by Kermit

Actually he was in the air when he caught it, but lost control of it when he reached out with it trying to break the plane. This all happened in the same motion which was in the process of making the catch.

If he would have caught the ball and been running with it and dove into the endzone and that same thing happened, the TD would have stood.

Can you see ball on ground? If that cant be seen they arnt supposed to be able to overrule it. To overrule you need to see the opposite of what you ruled, needs to be definitive. They needed to see the ball hit the ground and not his hand underneath or blinding them from seeing ball touching ground.

MoneyLineDawg · 12-17-17, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by The Giant

I couldn't tell by watching it live, but if you watch that video Kermit posted. It looks like the tip of the ball hit right as he was going down. 25 second mark.

I’m watcching that and still can’t fukkin tell...it kinda jumps up but his arm/hand is blocking the view

I just thought it should stand due to it being inconclusive at best

Auto Donk · 12-17-17, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by Kermit

Actually he was in the air when he caught it, but lost control of it when he reached out with it trying to break the plane. This all happened in the same motion which was in the process of making the catch.

If he would have caught the ball and been running with it and dove into the endzone and that same thing happened, the TD would have stood.

true, and only this guy has a better use of crossing/breaking "the plane"....

Auto Donk · 12-17-17, 08:01 PM

sad thing is, when dez got fukked, the ball never even touched the ground, from any f'n angle......

The Giant · 12-17-17, 08:02 PM

Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg

I’m watcching that and still can’t fukkin tell...it kinda jumps up but his arm/hand is blocking the view

I just thought it should stand due to it being inconclusive at best

Keep in mind the NFL also has other views.

Or is that baseball?

I can't remember.

Fukk it.

Auto Donk · 12-17-17, 08:03 PM

Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg

I’m watcching that and still can’t fukkin tell...it kinda jumps up but his arm/hand is blocking the view

I just thought it should stand due to it being inconclusive at best

shit, r u kiddin' me?

buy a f'n hi def tv for chrissakes

RudyRuetigger · 12-17-17, 08:05 PM

who cares

we will tell who nfl wants to win super bowl as the lines come out

they are as bad as nba was

i bet that fukkin ed hock a loogie writes a book about it

jtoler · 12-17-17, 08:08 PM

Originally posted by RudyRuetigger

who cares

we will tell who nfl wants to win super bowl as the lines come out

they are as bad as nba was

i bet that fukkin ed hock a loogie writes a book about it

Is that a webbed hand? Reptile?

RudyRuetigger · 12-17-17, 08:10 PM

Originally posted by jtoler

Is that a webbed hand? Reptile?

he is on steroids bro

so when he jacksoff, his hands get a HUGH pump

PAULYPOKER · 12-17-17, 08:17 PM

Originally posted by Kermit

Actually he was in the air when he caught it, but lost control of it ~~when~~ after he reached out with it ~~trying to~~ breaking the plane. This all happened in the same motion which was in the process of making the catch.

If he would have caught the ball and been running with it and dove into the endzone and that same thing happened, the TD would have stood.

How do you reach out with a ball if you do not have control of it?

If you did not have control over it,it would be impossible to reach out with it...........

the ball then came loose only after it crossed the plane..........

once ball crosses plane under control it is impossible to be called a no catch or a fumble.......