Steelers ML +115

[Da Manster!]

Pittsburgh got jobbed as that was clearly a TD. He lost control by reaching the ball over the goal line AFTER he caught the ball. But my God, who's the idiot who calls the fake spike instead of grounding it and having two plays to get the ball in.

no they changed the rule a couple of years ago, remember?...now you have to complete the catch all the way through regardless of where you are on the field...yes, years ago that would have been a TD.

[RudyRuetigger]

Pats down 8 mid fourth quarter, just for shits and giggle I banged this one in.
Why? Because I knew they would win.

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I said to my wife, the bigges Pats fan in the universe, "here comes a Seattle Seahawks pick at the goal line"

Sure as shit !

you are an amazing poster

never seen you lose a game posting the ticket after it ended

keep it up, i am tailing

THANKS

[MoneyLineDawg]

Even in baseball replay is fukkin stupid these days...the game isn't meant for super slow mo to see if the base runner took his foot a millimeter off the base while he slid....enough of the bullshit

[Plaza23]

Can't the ball bobble if his arm is underneath it?

I have yet to see a view of the bill clearly hitting the ground

It bobbled but his arm looked to be under it??

The ground can't cause a fumble, but it can cause a pass to be declared incomplete. It definitely moved and was on the ground when he had twos hands on it and reached for the goal line.

[lakerboy]

Same shit as the Superbowl. Brady looked like he lost a family member for a bit only for the person to rise from the dead

[Plaza23]

you are an amazing poster

never seen you lose a game posting the ticket after it ended

keep it up, i am tailing

THANKS

[Auto Donk]

NFL is garbage.

Under current rules idk how that gets overturned, but the rules should be fukkin simple a catch is a catch and that should be a no brainer TD. This NFL product is slipping with its garbage rules and forensic detective work on every fukkin catch it’s awful.

i hate the rule, but given the bullshit that it is, the pass was definitely "incomplete".... rule usually fuks me, this time it didn't make any difference, as I hate both teams, but it was clear that ruling was coming....

[JIBBBY]

I said to my wife, the bigges Pats fan in the universe, "here comes a Seattle Seahawks pick at the goal line"

Sure as shit !

Should have live bet that if it was up on the board .. You'd be paid big on that Stevie... That's crystal ball action right there..

[Da Manster!]

That was a TD.. You can't reverse that crap.. Not enough to over turn it.. Twiz you got robbed..

no, the ball bobbled...it was a good call...hey, I feel bad for Twizzler to lose like that but I'm happy because I won the wager...it's all part of gambling...sometimes you are the bug and sometimes you are the windshield.

[MoneyLineDawg]

The ground can't cause a fumble, but it can cause a pass to be declared incomplete. It definitely moved and was on the ground when he had twos hands on it and reached for the goal line.

I'll try to find the view showing the ball clearly hitting the ground but I didn't see it

It looked Inconclusive to me...maybe his arm and maybe the ground but no CLEAR view

The ball can bobble all fukkin day as long as it doesnt touch the ground

[Auto Donk]

Know they know how Dez felt.

that's exactly the play that came to mind the last time I got fukked by this rule (that I can recall).....

[alling]

Nice way to finish another perfect 3-0 day.

[jtoler]

The ground can't cause a fumble, but it can cause a pass to be declared incomplete. It definitely moved and was on the ground when he had twos hands on it and reached for the goal line.

Youre thinking of college ball.

[cobra_king]

no they changed the rule a couple of years ago, remember?...now you have to complete the catch all the way through regardless of where you are on the field...yes, years ago that would have been a TD.

Oh i know, but my point is that he did complete the catch, and lost the ball by reaching out to the goal line. Clearly the knuckleheads in New York saw it differently and their opinion is all that matters.

[PAULYPOKER]

In case you are wondering why the refs overturned a clear TD...........

look no further

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[DOM_Toretto]

i hate the rule, but given the bullshit that it is, the pass was definitely "incomplete".... rule usually fuks me, this time it didn't make any difference, as I hate both teams, but it was clear that ruling was coming....

Debatable under current rules. He caught it, knee down, reached out, and the second it crossed the goal line should be a TD. Even better, the defender touched him with his knee down so he is immediately down with ball across - again, TD. Finally, I’m not sure the ball touched the ground when it was bobbled.

Anyways, NFL NEEDS TO CHANGE THE STUPID RULES. Who cares if a ball is bobbled? Who cares if the catcher holds the ball for 1 step or 3 steps? Do these awful rules do anything to improve the game for the fans? No! Make the rules common sense catch or no catch based on traditional logic.

[t-wizzle]

Cannot underestimate how that call completely changed the landscape of the AFC. Patriots were looking a 3 seed dead in the face. Now they’ll probably get the 1. Unreal.

[Roadtrip635]

that's exactly the play that came to mind the last time I got fukked by this rule (that I can recall).....

And Romo was calling the game today too.

[MoneyLineDawg]

If someone has a still frame of ball clearly touching the ground it would end the debate...I'm just saying i never saw it

[JIBBBY]

no, the ball bobbled...it was a good call...hey, I feel bad for Twizzler to lose like that but I'm happy because I won the wager...it's all part of gambling...sometimes you are the bug and sometimes you are the windshield.

Had control and crossed the plain of the goal line.. Knee was down even when the ball was controlled and then crossed the goal line after.. I saw it the other way..

At home in that situation with it already ruled a TD I don't think you over turn that.. I don't care who I was betting on either.. I basically didn't have money riding on it at that point so I could keep an honest and open opinion about that..

[jtoler]

Oh i know, but my point is that he did complete the catch, and lost the ball by reaching out to the goal line. Clearly the knuckleheads in New York saw it differently and their opinion is all that matters.

Yea seemed like a catch, not an incompletion. He had caught it already and had possession of it, turned, dove, hit the ground and wobbled a bit and if you wanna call it a fumble fine but he recovered it.

[DOM-Ganador]

Pats suck. They get ALL the calls. They get all the breaks. If Brown doesn`t get hurt, Steelers take them to the woodshed.

How can that be called incomplete. We saw him catch it, right???

What is with that Gronk dude going for 135 second half...he sucks too.

Bookies MUST have fixed this game..

Did I leave anything out??

5 and counting.

[Da Manster!]

Oh i know, but my point is that he did complete the catch, and lost the ball by reaching out to the goal line. Clearly the knuckleheads in New York saw it differently and their opinion is all that matters.

by completing the catch he has to maintain possession all the way through regardless of he broke the goal line or not...yes, it's fukked up because a RB is allowed to break the plane and it's automatically a TD but a WR has to follow through all the way.

[lakerboy]

Cannot underestimate how that call completely changed the landscape of the AFC. Patriots were looking a 3 seed dead in the face. Now they’ll probably get the 1. Unreal.

Totally fukked things up. The Steelers just played 3 tough emotional games in 13 days.

[lakerboy]

Pats suck. They get ALL the calls. They get all the breaks. If Brown doesn`t get hurt, Steelers take them to the woodshed.

How can that be called incomplete. We saw him catch it, right???

What is with that Gronk dude going for 135 second half...he sucks too.

Bookies MUST have fixed this game..

Did I leave anything out??

5 and counting.

Scotch today brother?

[RudyRuetigger]

5 and counting.

kinda weak if only on 5th beer

[stevenash]

you are an amazing poster

never seen you lose a game posting the ticket after it ended

keep it up, i am tailing

THANKS

And your'e the most sarcastic, bitter poster on these here boards, keep up the good work as well.

[DOM-Ganador]

Scotch today brother?

No, only drink Scotch when it is cold out....
A balmy 80+ when I domicile.

Hope you had a good day LB.

[RudyRuetigger]

And your'e the most sarcastic, bitter poster on these here boards, keep up the good work as well.

guy this is what you do

1. do you think anyone gives 1 flying fukk what you bet after the game ends? you do this a lot

2. when an mlb teams wins 8+ in a row, you make a thread saying "keep riding team xxx, i have been on them for a while". you do this a lot

3. your write-ups belong on a sports lover forum, not a betting forum. you remind me of vegas dave...a lot of words, but not actually saying anything

keep these points in mind as they are just helpful tips

THANKS

[DOM-Ganador]

kinda weak if only on 5th beer

Not too quick on the uptake....Rings, not drinks.

[The Giant]

Draw your own conclusions.

[jtoler]

Draw your own conclusions.

Uh I was waiting on the jpg to move, we need a gif.

[Roadtrip635]

Had control and crossed the plain of the goal line.. Knee was down even when the ball was controlled and then crossed the goal line after.. I saw it the other way..

At home in that situation with it already ruled a TD I don't think you over turn that.. I don't care who I was betting on either.. I basically didn't have money riding on it at that point so I could keep an honest and open opinion about that..

Same call as the Dez catch against Green Bay in the playoffs. Crappy call, but at least they were consistent. Most people would have called both of those catches TDs, but not the NFL.

[RudyRuetigger]

Draw your own conclusions.

who cares

it is considered a catch if you have 2 feet down, elbow down, or knee down

after that, ok you can go to a football move

he had knee down and made a football move with the ball

worst case scenario should be ball at 1 inch line

but in reality, if he lost control, it should be a catch, fumble, and gains control of ball in endzone

THANKS

[Kermit]

Ball clearly is moving when it hits the ground. He never completed the catch.