NFL boycott thread. What are you doing today?

[grease lightnin]

Greaser - that is a bullshit excuse. No one thinks they are disrespecting the military. People are using that as a way to deflect from the protest. That's like someone going on a hunger strike for some cause and people blame him for stop eating beef. The beef is not the issue. People tried to say it was the flag, then they tried to say it was the anthem, then they said what the anthem represented. Then they moved on to it being the military and now it's the fallen heroes. All bullshit.

Nah man. Old guys like ranger 100% think they are ungrateful to Vets who paid the price for our freedom.

People usually have good intentions. I believe ranger does.

[MJFtheGenius]

Whatever dude, you still believe the schoolboy textbooks, how old are you.

28

what is wrong with you? This is a simple fact, ive never heard anyone debate.

[RangeFinder]

Well see their beef IS with "the nation".

They feel the nation harbors racial injustices.

And whether they are are correct or not,

that is their LIBERTY in this nation. Their RIGHT.

Many believe that is what makes our nation so great.

The freedom thing. Ya know?

That could not be farther from the truth. You are taking a few bad cops and wrapping them up all into one. There are bad and evil people in every job. Law enforcement as a whole are not racist. They do not go to work trying to kill minorities. Most are very good people. How would you feel if you were a cop and were labeled racist? How would you feel if you were a mechanic and were labeled racist because a guy in your shop was?

[Nitrogen]

That's not what I'm saying. They can do it wherever or whenever they want. But does it make it right? that's what they need to ask themselves. All they are doing is creating division. That is not what protesting is about.

Again, you're putting your own interpretation and assume that not only is it correct, but that it applies to everyone.

The majority of the players I've heard speak, are all protesting the same thing. They are protesting what (they feel) is that the police are disproportionately targeting minorities. Like I said, maybe the stats don't back it up. Maybe they're letting their own experience skew the overall numbers. In truth, it doesn't matter if they are wrong (ie: if stats show that all races get pulled over and harassed at the same rate).

Pretty sure the flag code says a flag should not be carried horizontally. Where's all the protests about those massive flags they display horizontally at stadiums? Try as they might, there have been countless times those flags have also touched the ground. Isn't that disrespecting the flag when the code is quite clear?

Again, you're free to protest (by boycotting). I've spoken to a Vet (Korean War) who is not in the least bit offended or feels disrespected by their actions. Does his opinion matter less, more or the same as mine, yours, Trumps?

If someone feels like they want to protest (perceived or otherwise) injustice peacefully, I really don't think it's my, or your place to define "what protesting is all about" or to tell them when/where they should simply because it's divisive.

[jtoler]

Happy October 8th to all.

[xdodger19]

The obama regime was training and encouraging people to attack citizens
obama also armed muslim terrorists
The republicans did 911, the media and democrats cover for them
then the democrats pretend to hate the republicans.
Americans are basically morons, that keep supporting and
legitimizing wicked people.

[Nitrogen]

That could not be farther from the truth. You are taking a few bad cops and wrapping them up all into one. There are bad and evil people in every job. Law enforcement as a whole are not racist. They do not go to work trying to kill minorities. Most are very good people. How would you feel if you were a cop and were labeled racist? How would you feel if you were a mechanic and were labeled racist because a guy in your shop was?

If the shop I get my car fixed at has a racist mechanic, I can find another mechanic. I can't ask to have a different cop pull me over.

[slambam]

I've barely watched the NFL the past 2 years. MLB it is.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Nah man. Old guys like ranger 100% think they are ungrateful to Vets who paid the price for our freedom.
People usually have good intentions. I believe ranger does.

How does taking a knee = ungrateful to vets?

How about asking a vet? Most vets do not see it as disrespect. Most vets believe they fought in order for people to have the very freedom to kneel. Why is ranger putting words in their mouths? I have not seen a vet say anything about ungrateful. Most NFL players do a shit load of work in their community. Much more than Ranger for damn sure. If ranger has good intentions, what about the athletes?

[MJFtheGenius]

Its always funny when you racists magically think quantitatively when discussing police/citizen deaths, but then its back to qualitatively when discussing welfare and black on black crime.

I clearly referred quantities, percentages, likelihoods of all accounts. Next

[grease lightnin]

That could not be farther from the truth. You are taking a few bad cops and wrapping them up all into one. There are bad and evil people in every job. Law enforcement as a whole are not racist. They do not go to work trying to kill minorities. Most are very good people. How would you feel if you were a cop and were labeled racist? How would you feel if you were a mechanic and were labeled racist because a guy in your shop was?

You are missing the point.


I agree with you that they are wrong.


But it doesn't matter.


The 1st amendment doesn't only benefit those who are correct

[jjgold]

supposed to stand for the national anthem that’s a given

Most of the country did not agree with the ghetto people so now they’re all standing

[MJFtheGenius]

Happy October 8th to all.

ha okay tell us what the red stripes stand for

[grease lightnin]

How does taking a knee = ungrateful to vets?

How about asking a vet? Most vets do not see it as disrespect. Most vets believe they fought in order for people to have the very freedom to kneel. Why is ranger putting words in their mouths? I have not seen a vet say anything about ungrateful. Most NFL players do a shit load of work in their community. Much more than Ranger for damn sure. If ranger has good intentions, what about the athletes?

I know that they aren't intentionally dissing vets

BUT GUYS LIKE RANGER FEEL THAT THEY ARE

[jtoler]

I clearly referred quantities, percentages, likelihoods of all accounts. Next

How many vids have you seen where cops have killed one particular race over basically nothing as opposed to others. There is your answer and thread starters answer, thats what the public has to go on. So, Im sure, in your mind, the vids we've seen the past 4 or 5 years, those cops did absolutely nothing wrong. You moved the goal posts as usual with you guys. Its the killing for doing nothing wrong. Sure cops should use deadly force at times when needed but the vids we have been soaked with are not that, they didnt need to use deadly force.

[MJFtheGenius]

How many vids have you seen where cops have killed one particular race over basically nothing as opposed to others. There is your answer and thread starters answer, thats what the public has to go on. So, Im sure, in your mind, the vids we've seen the past 4 or 5 years, those cops did absolutely nothing wrong. You moved the goal posts as usual with you guys. Its the killing for doing nothing wrong. Sure cops should use deadly force at times when needed but the vids we have been soaked with are not that, they didnt need to use deadly force.

I haven't seen one video like that. In every case it's involved the suspect (lengthy violent, drug criminal history) fleeing the scene, resisting arrest, not obeying the cops orders. Ferguson, Freddie Gray the cops did nothing wrong and that's what the courts ruled. There may be a few out there that I am forgetting or missing, but does not matter. The overall statistics are the real numbers. If you disagree with the actual statistics then thats your call.

[maggiethebestdog]

Once again, couldn't care less, but saying it is their right doesn't cover the whole issue. If I want to wear a KKK button at work I am guessing nobody would say I have the right to do so. Not saying that is cool but if you truly want free speech rights in the workplace then you would have to support me wearing the button. Work can't stop your rights, but if you are upsetting customers they can tell you to stop or you are gone. I have no dog in the fight here but feel that this part of the issue is being ignored.

[MJFtheGenius]

You are trying to debate on this topic with feelings, I like statistics.

[RangeFinder]

I know that they aren't intentionally dissing vets

BUT GUYS LIKE RANGER FEEL THAT THEY ARE

As a vet and know many, all feel the same as me. Lost one over there and did the eulogy in front of his parents. That image is burnt in my mind forever.

Protesters may not have intended to offend, but they have and it needs to stop.

[Mac4Lyfe]

As a vet and know many, all feel the same as me. Lost one over there and did the eulogy in front of his parents. That image is burnt in my mind forever.
Protesters may not have intended to offend, but they have and it needs to stop.

Man the fukk up you pussy. You must have been a vet working in the fukking mail room. You are too insensitive to have fought alongside real men. and fukk off for telling protesters how they should protest. You are anti American.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Maybe you should spend your time helping the THOUSANDS of other vets killing themselves every year instead of sitting on your pussy.

[maggiethebestdog]

How many vids have you seen where cops have killed one particular race over basically nothing as opposed to others. There is your answer and thread starters answer, thats what the public has to go on. So, Im sure, in your mind, the vids we've seen the past 4 or 5 years, those cops did absolutely nothing wrong. You moved the goal posts as usual with you guys. Its the killing for doing nothing wrong. Sure cops should use deadly force at times when needed but the vids we have been soaked with are not that, they didnt need to use deadly force.

2 videos I have seen. One in Chicago wear a black guy was walking on side of road with knife surrounded by a dozen cops with guns drawn. They are screaming for him to drop knife but not shooting because he is not threatening them. Then retarded cop pulls up, never asks fellow officers a word, gets out of car and starts shooting. Other officers are screaming at him but he kills guy. That was murder. I think he got convicted of something.

Other one was black guy who stole car running away fro m cop and cop shoots him in the back even though the guy was unarmed and literally running towards 20 cops. Had zero chance of getting away.

Only 2 videos I have seen that are clear cut.

[grease lightnin]

As a vet and know many, all feel the same as me. Lost one over there and did the eulogy in front of his parents. That image is burnt in my mind forever.

Protesters may not have intended to offend, but they have and it needs to stop.

Yeah, thanks for your service,

but if you really love our country and our freedom,

then you have to honor someone's rights and their freedom even when

and ESPECIALLY when you don't agree with them.

[MJFtheGenius]

2 videos I have seen. One in Chicago wear a black guy was walking on side of road with knife surrounded by a dozen cops with guns drawn. They are screaming for him to drop knife but not shooting because he is not threatening them. Then retarded cop pulls up, never asks fellow officers a word, gets out of car and starts shooting. Other officers are screaming at him but he kills guy. That was murder. I think he got convicted of something.

Other one was black guy who stole car running away fro m cop and cop shoots him in the back even though the guy was unarmed and literally running towards 20 cops. Had zero chance of getting away.

Only 2 videos I have seen that are clear cut.

This is true but these people try to switch the debate to feelings and interpretations because they know the stats don't back up what there saying lol

[HockeyRocks]

I will be boycotting VP Pence going forward for the stunt he tried to pull off to today....Nothing but a stunt and a waste of tax dollar money....

[MJFtheGenius]

Yeah, thanks for your service,

but if you really love our country and our freedom,

then you have to honor someone's rights and their freedom even when

and ESPECIALLY when you don't agree with them.

no, its his 1rst amendment right to disagree. I'm done with this thread, too much stupidity.

[MJFtheGenius]

I will be boycotting VP Pence going forward for the stunt he tried to pull off to today....Nothing but a stunt and a waste of tax dollar money....

and its your right to do so.

[Ra77er]

I have to say I’m a big fan of the kneeling in Cincinnati and Detroit today.

[RangeFinder]

Maybe you should spend your time helping the THOUSANDS of other vets killing themselves every year instead of sitting on your pussy.

Name the time and place, we need to have a meetup

[Mac4Lyfe]

no, its his 1rst amendment right to disagree. I'm done with this thread, too much stupidity.

Someone didn't get their participation trophy... WAH!!!

[jjgold]

lol you guys

nobody gives a fuk about protesters

lol worry about your own lives

[slambam]

Yeah, thanks for your service,

but if you really love our country and our freedom,

then you have to honor someone's rights and their freedom even when

and ESPECIALLY when you don't agree with them.

Disagree. There are millions of ways to protest, doing it during the anthem is just meant to piss people off imo. 95% of these clowns don't want to talk about what they're protesting.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Name the time and place, we need to have a meetup

For what? For you to date me? Because I'm sure you didn't learn to fight while you were on the front lines at the military post office stamping letters. You are too much of a pussy to ever protect this country. Fukk off.

[grease lightnin]

Disagree. There are millions of ways to protest, doing it during the anthem is just meant to piss people off imo. 95% of these clowns don't want to talk about what they're protesting.

You know.

You're right.

I said "you have to"

What I should have said is

"you should honor their right"

[Nitrogen]

Disagree. There are millions of ways to protest, doing it during the anthem is just meant to piss people off imo. 95% of these clowns don't want to talk about what they're protesting.

- No traffic is disrupted
- No property damage occurs
- No one is physically prevented from movement
- No one (directly) loses time or money
- No noise is made
- The length of the game isn't extended

You're either lying or full of sh*t if you say they don't want to talk about it. Just because you don't want to hear what someone says, doesn't mean they haven't spoken about it.

Millions of ways? You won't even listen to the players before judgment. Something tells me there's less than millions of ways you'd approve of.