The Official 2017 CFL Thread

**ChuckyTheGoat** · 10-06-17, 09:28 PM

Do u guys think CFL Head Coaches get strategy wrong sometimes?

Ham goes up 22-10? I think it's perfectly good to kick the xpt, go up 13.

It's not like American FBall where most of the scores will be TD (7pts). In CFL, a lot of pts in kicking game.

Maybe the xpt moving back changed mentality. No longer a chip-shot.

**ChuckyTheGoat** · 10-06-17, 09:29 PM

Originally posted by Kiddpokerr

Kvb, thats what i get, i wont go against u, gl on the spread, will be rooting for u big time ...

Ps. Waz about spending around 400 on Ham...

What do u mean?

**KVB** · 10-06-17, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat

Do u guys think CFL Head Coaches get strategy wrong sometimes?

Ham goes up 22-10? I think it's perfectly good to kick the xpt, go up 13.

It's not like American FBall where most of the scores will be TD (7pts). In CFL, a lot of pts in kicking game.

Maybe the xpt moving back changed mentality. No longer a chip-shot.

Dang, I hope I didn't talk Pokerr out of a winning Hamilton spread bet.

I missed the play but yeah every point really does count. Not sure why they went for two.

EDIT: 23-13 sure feels better that 22-13. A TD and field goal wins it.

**Hngkng** · 10-06-17, 09:44 PM

Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat

Do u guys think CFL Head Coaches get strategy wrong sometimes?

Ham goes up 22-10? I think it's perfectly good to kick the xpt, go up 13.

It's not like American FBall where most of the scores will be TD (7pts). In CFL, a lot of pts in kicking game.

Maybe the xpt moving back changed mentality. No longer a chip-shot.

Hamilton's kicker (who also is their punter) got injured in the 2nd quarter, and is on crutches.

Originally posted by KVB

Dang, I hope I didn't talk Pokerr out of a winning Hamilton spread bet.

I missed the play but yeah every point really does count. Not sure why they went for two.

EDIT: 23-13 sure feels better that 22-13. A TD and field goal wins it.

Kicker out for the game.

**Coolcanuck79** · 10-06-17, 09:55 PM

C'mon UNDER!

**ChuckyTheGoat** · 10-06-17, 10:02 PM

OK, I didn't know that. Then, that makes perfect sense.

**ChuckyTheGoat** · 10-06-17, 10:02 PM

Originally posted by Coolcanuck79

C'mon UNDER!

HAM up 17. We'll see how end-game plays out. Always tricky in CFL.

HAM may not score another point, especially w/ kicker out.

**KVB** · 10-06-17, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by Hngkng

Hamilton's kicker (who also is their punter) got injured in the 2nd quarter, and is on crutches.

Kicker out for the game.

The kicker got injured? Did he get hit on a kick? The kicker on crutches?

That's crazy.

**Hngkng** · 10-06-17, 10:06 PM

Originally posted by KVB

The kicker got injured? Did he get hit on a kick? The kicker on crutches?

That's crazy.

It was on the miss late in the 2nd half, non contact injury.

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**KVB** · 10-06-17, 10:07 PM

Originally posted by KVB

...the chances of this being both the underdog against the spread and the Under in this first game are not very good...

The early Underdog held and it looks like the early TD flipped to the UNDER but I sure was wrong about that pre-game prediction.

The sharp forecast looks to prevail against both the spread and Total tonight, but fail on the moneyline.

**ChuckyTheGoat** · 10-06-17, 10:08 PM

A Bill Gramatica injury? LOL

**ChuckyTheGoat** · 10-06-17, 10:08 PM

KVB, give me your best-guess Grey Cup prediction.

**KVB** · 10-06-17, 10:09 PM

Non contact but in crutches. Oh shit!

**Hngkng** · 10-06-17, 10:18 PM

By the way, starter Trevor Harris is back tomorrow for Ottawa.
Drew Willy starting for Montreal on Monday.

**KVB** · 10-06-17, 10:24 PM

Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat

KVB, give me your best-guess Grey Cup prediction.

Easy to say Calgary and I think the QB injuries around the league are really hurting the other potential teams, like Ottawa or even BC.

It's tough to get much of the playoff picture when Hamilton could still sneak in.

My ratings suggest Ottawa, Saskatchewan and Winnipeg could all play with Calgary, but it's a terrible QB situation for the most part.

If Ottawa gets a healthy Harris, we could see a Grey Cup rematch.

**Coolcanuck79** · 10-06-17, 10:29 PM

Sask my early lean for Saturday. Been running hot on CFL lately. Bodog has Sask at +2.5 but I want it to hit +3 for me to lay a wager. No buying the hook there. Might need to use one of my other book options for that game tomorrow if there is no TOR movement late morning.

**tradeout** · 10-06-17, 10:30 PM

Originally posted by Coolcanuck79

Sask my early lean for Saturday. Been running hot on CFL lately. Bodog has Sask at +2.5 but I want it to hit +3 for me to lay a wager. No buying the hook there. Might need to use one of my other book options for that game tomorrow if there is no TOR movement late morning.

greek has it +3 @ -110

**Hngkng** · 10-06-17, 10:37 PM

Originally posted by Coolcanuck79

Sask my early lean for Saturday. Been running hot on CFL lately. Bodog has Sask at +2.5 but I want it to hit +3 for me to lay a wager. No buying the hook there. Might need to use one of my other book options for that game tomorrow if there is no TOR movement late morning.

Tomorrow I am liking Saskatchewan +2.5, and Ottawa +3.5.

Haven't bet yet, will look into it more first.

**KVB** · 10-06-17, 10:43 PM

Originally posted by Hngkng

Hamilton +12.0 today

Originally posted by Coolcanuck79

I'm taking the under 57.

Nice call on the having the right side and getting the win as well.

**packerd_00** · 10-06-17, 11:01 PM

Did the Ti Cats not just win out as a 14 pt underdog a couple of weeks ago against the Lions,what the f@ck man.Isnt like their the Alouettes,don't understand these lines.

**ChuckyTheGoat** · 10-06-17, 11:01 PM

KVB...u know what? The team u mentioned...Hamilton. IF (big if) Hamilton had held on last week vs Toronto...I was going to say that Hamilton had a very good chance to come out of the east. Harder now. Sounds crazy, given that they started 0-8.

Other WEIRD scenario. Is there any Western team that is going to TANK to seize the Eastern 3-seed? MUCH easier route thru the east.

**KVB** · 10-06-17, 11:07 PM

Originally posted by packerd_00

Did the Ti Cats not just win out as a 14 pt underdog a couple of weeks ago against the Lions,what the f@ck man.

Hamilton got their first win in week 11 as 3 point upset over Toronto.

Since then:

Won as 12 point dogs.

Lost as 3 point dogs.

Won as 13 point dogs.

Lost as 3 point dogs.

Won as 12 point dogs.

This is all after going winless in the first half of the season.

**packerd_00** · 10-06-17, 11:12 PM

Originally posted by KVB

Hamilton got their first win in week 11 as 3 point upset over Toronto.

Since then:

Won as 12 point dogs.

Lost as 3 point dogs.

Won as 13 point dogs.

Lost as 3 point dogs.

Won as 12 point dogs.

This is all after going winless in the first half of the season.

Once Masoli took over,the Team became a hell of a lot better.The Als are the only team that has been worthy of a line like that.

**Hngkng** · 10-06-17, 11:22 PM

Hamilton is being looked at as a team that was 0-8 to start the year.
The truth is since the coaching, and QB changes, they have been real competitive. Now, their best WR is back for the year (he played his 2nd game tonight). A lot of value with Hamilton as an underdog.

**KVB** · 10-06-17, 11:23 PM

Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat

KVB...u know what? The team u mentioned...Hamilton. IF (big if) Hamilton had held on last week vs Toronto...I was going to say that Hamilton had a very good chance to come out of the east. Harder now. Sounds crazy, given that they started 0-8.

Other WEIRD scenario. Is there any Western team that is going to TANK to seize the Eastern 3-seed? MUCH easier route thru the east.

I mentioned before that Edmonton has the ability to clamp down, but another injury ridden squad.

I suppose Calgary will enter cruise mode and with them covering the highest line of the season so far, it's a good time to start failing ATS.

**Hngkng** · 10-06-17, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat

KVB...u know what? The team u mentioned...Hamilton. IF (big if) Hamilton had held on last week vs Toronto...I was going to say that Hamilton had a very good chance to come out of the east. Harder now. Sounds crazy, given that they started 0-8.

Other WEIRD scenario. Is there any Western team that is going to TANK to seize the Eastern 3-seed? MUCH easier route thru the east.

Edmonton @ Saskatchewan is the last game of the season. I wonder will that game be both teams trying to lose to go East haha

**KVB** · 10-06-17, 11:26 PM

Originally posted by Hngkng

...A lot of value with Hamilton as an underdog.

In week 14, the sharp forecast had a pick 'em when the market had a 12 point dog and this week the sharp forecast had a 4 or 5 point game.

The forecast is revealing some of that value against the market.

**KVB** · 10-06-17, 11:26 PM

Originally posted by Hngkng

Edmonton @ Saskatchewan is the last game of the season. I wonder will that game be both teams trying to lose to go East haha

**packerd_00** · 10-06-17, 11:35 PM

Originally posted by Hngkng

Hamilton is being looked at as a team that was 0-8 to start the year.
The truth is since the coaching, and QB changes, they have been real competitive. Now, their best WR is back for the year (he played his 2nd game tonight). A lot of value with Hamilton as an underdog.

Yep big money up for grabs,need to get are's.

**Hngkng** · 10-06-17, 11:39 PM

Trent Richardson starts at RB tomorrow vs Toronto.

**KVB** · 10-07-17, 11:40 AM

The sharp forecast says Toronto wins with 24 or 25 points to Saskatchewan’s 20 or 22 points.

The stacking forecast has Toronto winning with 27 or 28 points to Saskatchewan’s 23 points. Looking at basic averages and medians lines can be made that give Saskatchewan the small win in 51 or 52 games and those are, like yesterday, in line with the public gauge which has Saskatchewan winning 27-24.

I don’t have much time but I think this line opened a little low and the books likely new they would be getting early action on Toronto. They’ve shown some of that action and have moved the line into ranges where money will be sidelined. Once again, the books have done a good job of trying to get the bettors to gamble by game time.

I mentioned yesterday that more influential money would be hanging around the market this week, because of the 5th week of the NFL, and this line shows some of the tightness.

The Total also feels fairly tight and I see once again a decent split for the books.

I’m not countering the forecast with either the side or Total for a bold play but wouldn’t be surprised here if Toronto were to fail, even against the moneyline.

This is the first game of two today and last week we saw a perfect settlement in both instances where two games were played. This first game should show some deception or perhaps just the upset outright.

Toronto could be in trouble here.

**Hngkng** · 10-07-17, 02:49 PM

Im on Saskatchewan +2.0

**KVB** · 10-07-17, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by KVB

...This is the first game of two today and last week we saw a perfect settlement in both instances where two games were played. This first game should show some deception or perhaps just the upset outright.

Toronto could be in trouble here...

Imagine that, in game one see Toronto take the lead, lose the lead and momentum, and now the result is completely ambiguous.

It's not what they bring...

**Louisvillekid1** · 10-07-17, 05:43 PM

21 pages on a CFL thread?

Jeez Gimmie 2 hours and a translator,

Gotta read this degenerate shit...

Eh?

**KVB** · 10-07-17, 05:48 PM

The sharp forecast has Ottawa winning with 23 points to British Columbia’s 19 or 20 points.

The stacking forecast shows Ottawa winning with 27 points to BC’s 23 or 24 points. Most methods are close to the line with Ottawa winning in about 51 points. The public gauge shows British Columbia winning 26-23.

Both the sharp and stacking forecast are on the upset moneyline here, away from the unsophisticated public. The market likes this split and I suspect Ottawa could be in trouble. In terms of give and take on the other hand, Ottawa has failed twice as sharp forecasted predicted upsets in the last two weeks. At the end of the day, give and take occurs on many levels but prediction isn’t as easy.

We simply do not have enough information yet but I wanted to get the forecast posted.

I suspect Toronto is in fact in trouble and that could open the door for the Ottawa upset.