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  • PAULYPOKER
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    • 12-06-08
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    #316
    Originally posted by rkelly110
    Pick a side or STFU.
    This is the mental state of America..

    Pick a side and literally hate the other side as your large diet of MSM is fed to you all..
    You all swallow every bit with complete loyalty.

    You do understand , this is why America is never going to recover,don't you?
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    • RoyBacon
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      • 09-21-05
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      #317
      Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
      This is the mental state of America..

      Pick a side and literally hate the other side as your large diet of MSM is fed to you all..
      You all swallow every bit with complete loyalty.

      You do understand , this is why America is never going to recover,don't you?
      If the working class sticks together we can make this country great again despite the left. Happened in 1980. We will get health care and move on to tax cuts. That will be the hardest of all.
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      • rkelly110
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        • 10-05-09
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        #318
        Originally posted by dlowilly
        The whole post was a bunch of lies. I'm not from here? Well since we are talking about the US gov. your statement must mean I am not from the USA, which is a lie, and no "Oh I meant the Northeast" or "Oh I meant from Northern Indiana" or some bullshit, we were talking about the US government, so no squirming out of that one.

        Or how about saying the government saved up for 5 years for Obamacare? Or was that just a joke? The government doesn't save up for anything, it's 20 trillion in debt. It stole from fannie mae and freddie mac almost the exact amount it needed to fund Obamacare, and hoped people wouldn't notice.
        I don't lie. Misinformed sometimes, yes.

        Maybe I'm mistaking you for someone else from england?

        After doing some research, the law was signed in '10 and implemented in '14 giving it "4" years to "save" from
        taxes imposed.

        Here's a list of taxes/ funds/ penalties to help build up/ continue the required funds to start Obama care.



        +.9% Increase in Medicare Tax Rate (plus next item…)

        3.8% New Tax on unearned income for high-income taxpayers= $210.2 billion ($200,000 for individual and $250,000 for joint filers)

        New Annual Fee on health insurance providers = $60 billion (For calculation - Sec 9010 (b) of the PPACA.)[1]

        40% New Tax on health insurance policies which cost more than $10,200 for an individual or $27,500 for a family, per year = $32 billion (inland tax as opposed to an importation tax)

        New Annual Fee on manufacturers and importers of branded drugs = $27 billion (For calculation - Sec 9008 (b) of the PPACA)[2
        ]
        2.3% New Tax on manufacturers and importers of certain medical devices = $20 billion

        +2.5% Increase (7.5% to 10%) in the Adjusted Gross Income floor on medical expenses deduction = $15.2 billion
        Limit annual contributions to $2,500 on flexible spending arrangements in cafeteria plans (plans that allow employees to choose between different types of benefits) = $13 billion

        All other revenue sources = $14.9 billion

        10% New Tax imposed on each individual for whom “indoor tanning services” are performed.

        3.8% New Tax on investment income. Includes: gross income from interest, dividends, royalties, rents, and net capital gains. Investment income does not include interest on tax-exempt bonds, veterans’ benefits, excluded gain from the sale of a principle residence, distributions from retirement plans, or amounts subject to self-employment taxes. (The lesser of net investment income or the excess of modified Adjusted Gross Income over a the dollar amount at which the highest income tax bracket, typically $250,000 for married filing jointly and $200,000 filing as an individual).
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        • rkelly110
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          • 10-05-09
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          #319
          Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
          This is the mental state of America..

          Pick a side and literally hate the other side as your large diet of MSM is fed to you all..
          You all swallow every bit with complete loyalty.

          You do understand , this is why America is never going to recover,don't you?
          Well Paul, when it comes time when the world's people will tear each other apart, a side has to be chosen.
          You against them or us against them. Your choice.

          When the 7 horsemen come and the trumpets blow, which side do you want to be on?

          Right now, I want to be on the political side of the fence that helps it's fellow man, not the people where it's easier
          for them to go through the eye of a needle than get into to heaven, who screw their fellow man.

          Actions, my friend, actions, not words spewed in print or on TV. A mans actions define him, not his words.
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          • JIBBBY
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 12-10-09
            • 83686

            #320
            Originally posted by chico2663
            your not factual again. Yes medical bills do show up on your credit. wtf is wrong with you. get out of your mother's basement
            I believe hospitals turn over all debts owed to collection agencies.. I know many people in the hoods that have racked up high med bills aren't bothered by it and or care less about their credit..

            Anyone, even a non citizen can walk into any emergency hospital in America and they can't turn you away and refuse medical help by law.. This I do know.. People in the hoods and illegals take advantage of this.. They got 911 on their contact list.. The first signs of feeling bad they dial 911 and an Ambulance is sent for a free ride to the hospital as well..

            Privately-owned hospitals may turn away patients in a non-emergency, but public hospitals cannot refuse care. Keep reading to learn more.
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            • Thor4140
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              • 02-09-08
              • 22296

              #321
              Originally posted by khicks26
              You won't get one of these billionaire puppets to watch that video. They feel the billionaires in this country are unfairly dealt with. Billionaires are the victims in this country according to these asswipes.
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              • JIBBBY
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                • 12-10-09
                • 83686

                #322
                Originally posted by Thor4140
                You won't get one of these billionaire puppets to watch that video. They feel the billionaires in this country are unfairly dealt with. Billionaires are the victims in this country according to these asswipes.
                Thor would you hate yourself if you were a billionaire?
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                • rkelly110
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                  • 10-05-09
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                  #323
                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                  Thor would you hate yourself if you were a billionaire?
                  I don't hate those who have money, but Christ, they cry worse than the poor. Don't take my money!

                  Koch bro's are bitching now. "No more money until you guys get health care and taxes taken care of!"
                  They will benefit on both fronts.
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                  • RoyBacon
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                    • 09-21-05
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                    #324
                    Originally posted by rkelly110
                    Right now, I want to be on the political side of the fence that helps it's fellow man, not the people where it's easier
                    for them to go through the eye of a needle than get into to heaven, who screw their fellow man.
                    LOL... screwing the working people, the deplorables, and giving their money to the lazy sounds like the heaven recipe. The goverment is not a nanny. If those protesters would work as hard as they beg they would be successful.
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                    • rkelly110
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                      • 10-05-09
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                      #325
                      Originally posted by RoyBacon
                      LOL... screwing the working people, the deplorables, and giving their money to the lazy sounds like the heaven recipe. The goverment is not a nanny. If those protesters would work as hard as they beg they would be successful.
                      Nice. This post says a lot about you. If you spent more time worrying about yourself instead of what other people
                      are doing/ getting, you'd be better off.

                      You have no problem with the rich, corporations and foreign nations getting your money? Oh, it's only what
                      you see on TV about the inner cities. Hint: they get more than what we spend on those you hate.
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                      • Thor4140
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                        • 02-09-08
                        • 22296

                        #326
                        Originally posted by JIBBBY
                        Thor would you hate yourself if you were a billionaire?
                        If i was one of those scumbag Koch brothers i wouldn't have mirrors in my house because if i did i would throw up every time i saw myself. Like the video says go enjoy your life and get the hell out of everyone's business. You got 80 billion fuking dollars and want more. These two scumbags have been shaping republican policy for years. Nothing good for the average person.
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                        • PAULYPOKER
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                          • 12-06-08
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                          #327
                          hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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                          • chico2663
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                            • 09-02-10
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                            #328
                            Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                            My credit score is 734.......

                            My insurance did not pay 1 cent for a 2 day visit at the Cleveland clinic.

                            The bill was $2800..
                            I never paid 1 cent of this........

                            I have many other unpaid medical bills as well..

                            Ridicule is your only offense as usual..
                            Well i guess cleveland is inept. I had a gastro dr. bill me when i had a stroke in cincy. I refused to pay and mine went from 780 to 714 for a 45 $ copay. I refused to pay it so they put it on my credit.
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                            • chico2663
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                              • 09-02-10
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                              #329
                              Originally posted by JIBBBY
                              I believe hospitals turn over all debts owed to collection agencies.. I know many people in the hoods that have racked up high med bills aren't bothered by it and or care less about their credit..

                              Anyone, even a non citizen can walk into any emergency hospital in America and they can't turn you away and refuse medical help by law.. This I do know.. People in the hoods and illegals take advantage of this.. They got 911 on their contact list.. The first signs of feeling bad they dial 911 and an Ambulance is sent for a free ride to the hospital as well..

                              https://law.freeadvice.com/malpracti...l-patients.htm
                              If it is a private hospital they can turn you down but any public hospital that gets public funding has to take you. I sold health ins jibbs so i know the law
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                              • chico2663
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                                • 09-02-10
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                                #330
                                Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                                My credit score is 734.......

                                My insurance did not pay 1 cent for a 2 day visit at the Cleveland clinic.

                                The bill was $2800..
                                I never paid 1 cent of this........

                                I have many other unpaid medical bills as well..

                                Ridicule is your only offense as usual..
                                i figured you were one of those deplorable people with out health care. Your the reason insurance is so high.
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                                • PAULYPOKER
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                                  • 12-06-08
                                  • 36581

                                  #331
                                  Originally posted by chico2663
                                  Well i guess cleveland is inept. I had a gastro dr. bill me when i had a stroke in cincy. I refused to pay and mine went from 780 to 714 for a 45 $ copay. I refused to pay it so they put it on my credit.
                                  I never paid a medical bill in my life......

                                  many different hospitals,specialty doctors,you name it...
                                  I live in PA and PA is a commonwealth state which means strict old school non liberal ideology...
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                                  • Thor4140
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                                    • 02-09-08
                                    • 22296

                                    #332
                                    Guys talking how doctors are overpaid ought to try paying there college bills and then see how overpaid they are. When the CEO of the insurance company makes 50 million a year maybe just maybe there lies the problem. Insurance companies teach their employees 15 different ways to say no.
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                                    • Thor4140
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                                      • 02-09-08
                                      • 22296

                                      #333
                                      Trump having a fundraiser 5 months into office. U can't make this shit up.
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                                      • 19th Hole
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                                        • 03-22-09
                                        • 18954

                                        #334
                                        Originally posted by chico2663
                                        i figured you were one of those deplorable people with out health care. Your the reason insurance is so high.
                                        Insurance is so high because of the fraudulent overbilling and overcharging by the corrupt medical, pharma and insurance professions.
                                        Physicians, hospitals, medical labs and big pharma each give denizens of the USA a procto daily.
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                                        • 19th Hole
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                                          • 03-22-09
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                                          #335
                                          Originally posted by Thor4140
                                          Trump having a fundraiser 5 months into office. U can't make this shit up.
                                          Hillary did it on the job and around the world.
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                                          • Thor4140
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                                            • 02-09-08
                                            • 22296

                                            #336
                                            Originally posted by 19th Hole
                                            Hillary did it on the job and around the world.
                                            Was she ever president? She is gone so why are u mental midgets still so obsessed by her? You can let her go now. I know Hannity hasn't but it is okay.
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                                            • Booya711
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                                              • 12-20-11
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                                              #337
                                              If we could only have sports conversations last this long...political fukking jerkoffs
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                                              • PAULYPOKER
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                                                • 12-06-08
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                                                #338
                                                Originally posted by chico2663

                                                If it is a private hospital they can turn you down but any public hospital that gets public funding has to take you. I sold health ins jibbs so i know the law
                                                I have health insurance..

                                                I had health insurance long before Obama care came into affect..

                                                Obama care made deductibles ridiculously high which is nothing but higher profits for the Corporations..

                                                I have had 8 doctors leave PA or the #1 giant, insurance monopolized corporation, since Obamacare took affect..

                                                They left because they are treated like employees and the DEA
                                                and insurance,dictated how to treat their patients..

                                                I know this because I asked them.
                                                I knew why before I asked them..
                                                They sensed it as well..
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                                                • chico2663
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                                                  • 09-02-10
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                                                  #339
                                                  Originally posted by 19th Hole
                                                  Insurance is so high because of the fraudulent overbilling and overcharging by the corrupt medical, pharma and insurance professions.
                                                  Physicians, hospitals, medical labs and big pharma each give denizens of the USA a procto daily.
                                                  it is too high because of pharma. Have you ever seen the price that drs have to pay in insurance so they can stay in business. Have you ever seen the cost to get this degree? You have to go to college 7 years before you can even go into specialization. it is also because deadbeats go to the emergency room instead of having health care. I guess your one of the uninformed on the right. You have no problem for these ceo's making the money they make but begrudge a guy that takes 10 years of his life to go to school. UNFUCKKING BELIEVABLE
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                                                  • Thor4140
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                                                    • 02-09-08
                                                    • 22296

                                                    #340
                                                    Originally posted by Booya711
                                                    If we could only have sports conversations last this long...political fukking jerkoffs
                                                    why do u come in every political thread like a jackass and complain about them. I know you are not very bright but here is a tip. Pass over the political threads and your problem is solved. Wow just wow.
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                                                    • chico2663
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                                                      • 09-02-10
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                                                      #341
                                                      Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                                                      I have health insurance..

                                                      I had health insurance long before Obama care came into affect..

                                                      Obama care made deductibles ridiculously high which is nothing but higher profits for the Corporations..

                                                      I have had 8 doctors leave PA or the #1 giant, insurance monopolized corporation, since Obamacare took affect..

                                                      They left because they are treated like employees and the DEA
                                                      and insurance,dictated how to treat their patients..

                                                      I know this because I asked them.
                                                      I knew why before I asked them..
                                                      They sensed it as well..
                                                      Let me explain how those deductibles work. When your employer or you are offered the coverage. You can take the more expensive program, the middle of the road program or the cheapest program. The more expensive program cost more and has a lower deductible. Where as the cheapest has a lower payment but a higher deductible. So either you or your employer wanted to be cheap and take the least expensive. BUT THEN YOU WANT TO BITCH ABOUT THE HIGHER DEDUCTIBLES BECAUSE YOUR A CHEAPSKATE. UNFUCKKING BELIEVABLE.
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                                                      • chico2663
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                                                        • 09-02-10
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                                                        #342
                                                        Most drs. left because they capped how much they could charge and how much time they could spend with each patient. I also know drs. and that is what they told me. maybe they left you because they realized you didn't pay your bills
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                                                        • Thor4140
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                                                          • 02-09-08
                                                          • 22296

                                                          #343
                                                          Originally posted by chico2663
                                                          it is too high because of pharma. Have you ever seen the price that drs have to pay in insurance so they can stay in business. Have you ever seen the cost to get this degree? You have to go to college 7 years before you can even go into specialization. it is also because deadbeats go to the emergency room instead of having health care. I guess your one of the uninformed on the right. You have no problem for these ceo's making the money they make but begrudge a guy that takes 10 years of his life to go to school. UNFUCKKING BELIEVABLE
                                                          These far right wing thinkers have halted progress in this country for years,as we fall behind others. Heck even our athletes are going to Germany to get help with their injuries. Climate change, stem cell it just goes on and on. The dumbest of the dumb. I'm not talking about moderates its these far right handjobs who are always standing in the way of progress.
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                                                          • Thor4140
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                                                            • 02-09-08
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                                                            #344
                                                            5 months and the bullshitter and chief is having a fundraiser and these asshats want to talk about Hillary.
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                                                            • 19th Hole
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                                                              • 03-22-09
                                                              • 18954

                                                              #345
                                                              Originally posted by chico2663
                                                              it is too high because of pharma. Have you ever seen the price that drs have to pay in insurance so they can stay in business. Have you ever seen the cost to get this degree? You have to go to college 7 years before you can even go into specialization. it is also because deadbeats go to the emergency room instead of having health care. I guess your one of the uninformed on the right. You have no problem for these ceo's making the money they make but begrudge a guy that takes 10 years of his life to go to school. UNFUCKKING BELIEVABLE
                                                              Why am I on the left or right? You're an intelligent guy. It's an American problem.
                                                              Get on point...When did I exclude CEO's? Where do you think overcharging and overbilling originate.
                                                              Big pharma, insurance corps, AMA, AHA, and their labs all are guilty.

                                                              I had open-heart surgery and when the blood had settled my tally was over 400K.
                                                              Complications of course but not THAT complicated.

                                                              I found overcharging and over billing all down the list.
                                                              Don't get me started.
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                                                              • PAULYPOKER
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                                                                • 12-06-08
                                                                • 36581

                                                                #346
                                                                Originally posted by chico2663
                                                                Let me explain how those deductibles work. When your employer or you are offered the coverage. You can take the more expensive program, the middle of the road program or the cheapest program. The more expensive program cost more and has a lower deductible. Where as the cheapest has a lower payment but a higher deductible. So either you or your employer wanted to be cheap and take the least expensive. BUT THEN YOU WANT TO BITCH ABOUT THE HIGHER DEDUCTIBLES BECAUSE YOUR A CHEAPSKATE. UNFUCKKING BELIEVABLE.
                                                                Either way You will pay the same profits to the middleman
                                                                I understand that you are too old to understand how the world works
                                                                because you were educationally,politically and socially programmed from birth..
                                                                I'll explain in old school language so you can understand.
                                                                You can't teach an old dog new tricks...
                                                                Even if the trick is not trick, but just good ole commonsense....
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                                                                • ByeShea
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                                                                  • 06-30-08
                                                                  • 8111

                                                                  #347
                                                                  Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                                  They feel the billionaires in this country are unfairly dealt with. Billionaires are the victims in this country according to these asswipes.
                                                                  Correct. Hillary was bought and paid for and then some guy they couldn't buy ends up in the White House. Sorry Wall Street. Sorry Hollywood. Sorry DC swamp.
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                                                                  • chico2663
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                                                                    • 09-02-10
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                                                                    #348
                                                                    Originally posted by 19th Hole
                                                                    Why am I on the left or right? You're an intelligent guy. It's an American problem.
                                                                    Get on point...When did I exclude CEO's? Where do you think overcharging and overbilling originate.
                                                                    Big pharma, insurance corps, AMA, AHA, and their labs all are guilty.

                                                                    I had open-heart surgery and when the blood had settled my tally was over 400K.
                                                                    Complications of course but not THAT complicated.

                                                                    I found overcharging and over billing all down the list.
                                                                    Don't get me started.
                                                                    Hey before obama care if you were sick you had to take a substandard policy. That is if you were self employed. I was running around in manhatten. The next month I had a stroke. I was in the hospital for 27 days. That bill was a little more than yours and I got stuck paying half of it. So i hear you. But i have also seen drs. that had to pay 36,000 for a malpractice policy. There are a lot of fly by's . My insurance got charged 1500 for a gastro dr. Because after a certain amt. that I paid my part was 45 dollars. Now I refused to pay because i had a stroke. Asshole got paid by my insurance but put that on my credit. It is why I keep telling jibby to get a policy because when you get sick they fucck you
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                                                                    • JIBBBY
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                                                                      • 12-10-09
                                                                      • 83686

                                                                      #349
                                                                      So who will be the next really famous celebrity to overdose and die? Johhny Depp could now be on that list??? Just saying...

                                                                      I think it's now a tie between Charlie Sheen and Johhny Depp on who checks out first.. Doing drugs daily is much harder on the older bodies 50+.. Heart will give out, hense Carry Fisher..

                                                                      Charlie Sheen is starting to sell off his valuables to raise money.. That's what happens when you don't work, do drugs all day and still have the house and car payments coming in...



                                                                      Charlie just sold his Babe Ruth World Series ring for $600,000.. http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/1...ntract-auction
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                                                                      • 19th Hole
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                                                                        • 03-22-09
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                                                                        #350
                                                                        Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                        So who will be the next really famous celebrity to overdose and die? Johhny Depp could now be on that list??? Just saying...

                                                                        I think it's now a tie between Charlie Sheen and Johhny Depp on who checks out first.. Doing drugs daily is much harder on the older bodies 50+.. Heart will give out, hense Carry Fisher..

                                                                        Charlie Sheen is starting to sell off his valuables to raise money.. That's what happens when you don't work, do drugs all day and still have the house and car payments coming in...



                                                                        Charlie just sold his Babe Ruth World Series ring for $600,000.. http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/1...ntract-auction

                                                                        Go down the list of alcohol-dependent and drug damaged,
                                                                        Rock 'n Roll Hall of Famers and Hollywood celebs from the 60's and 70's.
                                                                        The bell should be ringing.
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