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  • chico2663
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    • 09-02-10
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    #1121
    Originally posted by RoyBacon
    Yep, those idiot hard working deplorable union workers voted for Trump. Can you believe it???

    If you work hard and are patriotic you voted Trump. If you don't you don't like him.

    It's discouraging that the non working class has so little respect for the working class. Just like the libs in this thread they despise them and really do think of them as white trash.
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...rump/94242722/Teacher unions smarting after many members vote for Trump

    This is what i was talking about roy
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    • chico2663
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      #1122
      article states that while clinton won union vote ;many crossed the line to vote for trump. The unions in michigan was the big reason that trump won. Article states 51-43 voted for clinton. In one area it was 1-5 but it ended up being close
      Last edited by chico2663; 05-14-17, 11:44 AM.
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      • brooks85
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        • 01-05-09
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        #1123
        ^ lol chico proving he can't count again


        "How substantially? About one in five American Federation of Teachers (AFT) members who cast a ballot voted for Trump..."


        teachers unions do not support trump. And only a moron like khicks could say they don't have power anymore lol
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        • DwightShrute
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          • 01-17-09
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          #1124
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          • chico2663
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            #1125




            Is axios considered real news?
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            • DwightShrute
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              • 01-17-09
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              #1126
              Originally posted by chico2663
              chico when you read stories from where ever and you see "the sources said" and "said one of the confidants", doesn't that send warning signals to you about the authenticity of said article? If it doesn't, it should.

              You can just quote dozens of similar articles like that and none of them turned out to be true.
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              • guitarjosh
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                • 12-25-07
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                #1127
                Originally posted by chico2663
                Unions aren't shit unless it is public eg cops or teachers. Thy voted for trump so that throws out your fallacy. Don't believe me ask pile
                Hillary still received more of the union vote than Trump.

                Originally posted by khicks26
                Didn't the Dems lose just about everything in the last few elections?

                They hold no power, just like the Unions.
                Unions give the dems about 2 percent of the popular vote in presidential elections.



                The Supreme Court ruled Monday in Harris v. Quinn that Illinois home health-care workers cannot be forced to pay union dues if they don’t want to join a union. …
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                • RoyBacon
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                  • 09-21-05
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                  #1128
                  Originally posted by brooks85
                  ^ lol chico proving he can't count again


                  "How substantially? About one in five American Federation of Teachers (AFT) members who cast a ballot voted for Trump..."


                  teachers unions do not support trump. And only a moron like khicks could say they don't have power anymore lol
                  The article mentions 1 in 3 on the larger NEA supported Trump. Were they expecting more? geez

                  I like the stat that Clinton won among DC blacks 96-4.

                  I do believe the libs will take over all branches of govt someday and run us into the ground. Taxes will explode as social spending increases and the rich and companies will make a Syrian-like exodus out of the country. With demographic shifts well under way it is almost inevitable.
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                  • rkelly110
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                    • 10-05-09
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                    #1129
                    Brick for brains. Anyone who knows just a fraction of our political history knows when the Repubs are
                    in charge, wars are started, we go into recessions and are deep in debt. The Dems have to come in and clean
                    up the mess. Dispute it all you want. It's history fact.
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                    • brooks85
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                      • 01-05-09
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                      #1130
                      Originally posted by rkelly110
                      Brick for brains. Anyone who knows just a fraction of our political history knows when the Repubs are
                      in charge, wars are started, we go into recessions and are deep in debt. The Dems have to come in and clean
                      up the mess. Dispute it all you want. It's history fact.
                      rkelly, lying on Mother's day. What a pos.
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                      • chico2663
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                        #1131
                        Originally posted by rkelly110
                        Brick for brains. Anyone who knows just a fraction of our political history knows when the Repubs are
                        in charge, wars are started, we go into recessions and are deep in debt. The Dems have to come in and clean
                        up the mess. Dispute it all you want. It's history fact.
                        you can't make simpletons like brooks and bacon understand politics. Yes josh she did get the majority. BUT if she got the normal amount than we would have billary. I didn't vote for her so it doesn't mean i could root for her
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                        • guitarjosh
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                          • 12-25-07
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                          #1132
                          Originally posted by chico2663
                          you can't make simpletons like brooks and bacon understand politics. Yes josh she did get the majority. BUT if she got the normal amount than we would have billary. I didn't vote for her so it doesn't mean i could root for her
                          I understand, but the long term trend is for the unions to give the dems several % points over the GOP. If that flipped, you would see small pockets of the dems on the coast and the rest of the country would be heavily GOP.
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                          • chico2663
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                            #1133
                            Originally posted by DwightShrute
                            chico when you read stories from where ever and you see "the sources said" and "said one of the confidants", doesn't that send warning signals to you about the authenticity of said article? If it doesn't, it should.

                            You can just quote dozens of similar articles like that and none of them turned out to be true.
                            got it from drudge
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                            • chico2663
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                              #1134
                              Originally posted by guitarjosh
                              I understand, but the long term trend is for the unions to give the dems several % points over the GOP. If that flipped, you would see small pockets of the dems on the coast and the rest of the country would be heavily GOP.
                              my god. someone that can discuss.
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                              • DwightShrute
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                                • 01-17-09
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                                #1135
                                so cute

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                                • d2bets
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                                  • 08-10-05
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                                  #1136
                                  Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                  so cute

                                  They do look happy. Agent Orange must not be around.
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                                  • DwightShrute
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                                    #1137
                                    Originally posted by d2bets
                                    They do look happy. Agent Orange must not be around.
                                    Funny how those who act all upset when Trump says something mean about someone are always the ones who attack Trump's looks. It's like being back in grade school.
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                                    • khicks26
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                                      • 09-16-06
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                                      #1138
                                      U.S. effective corporate tax rates are not a burden

                                      The top statutory tax rate of 35% in the U.S. is somewhat higher than that of 30 other OECD countries, but the average effective tax rate — the actual rate paid after deductions and credits — is slightly lower than our competitors, according to the Congressional Research Service (CRS).
                                      Several studies have found that U.S. corporations pay a similar or a lower effective tax rate — the rate actually paid — than corporations in other countries. For example:

                                      Some corporations pay nothing in taxes

                                      • General Electric, Boeing, Priceline.com, Verizon and 22 other profitable Fortune 500 firms paid no federal income taxes from 2008 through 2012, according to Citizens for Tax Justice.
                                      • 111 profitable Fortune 500 firms paid zero federal taxes in at least one of those five years.
                                      • General Electric, one of the most notorious corporate tax dodgers, got $3.1 billion in refunds on $27.5 billion in profits from 2008 to 2012. The company paid less in federal income taxes in five years than a single American family pays in one year.

                                      Lower tax rates do not boost growth and jobs

                                      Conservatives claim reducing the corporate tax rate will substantially grow the economy. But a cut in the statutory rate from 35% to 25% would increase economic output by less than two-tenths of one percent, according to CRS. Economic growth over the past 60 years has actually been stronger when corporate tax rates were higher, according to the Economic Policy Institute. U.S. corporate tax rates also are not hurting profits — before-tax and after-tax corporate profits as a percentage of national income are at post–World War II highs.
                                      There is no relationship between cutting corporate tax rates and job growth, according to a recent study by the Center for Effective Government. Twenty-two of the 30 profitable Fortune 500 companies that paid the highest tax rates (30% or more) from 2008 to 2010 created almost 200,000 jobs between 2008 and 2012. The 30 profitable corporations that paid little or no taxes over the three years collectively shed 51,289 jobs between 2008 and 2012.
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                                      • d2bets
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                                        #1139
                                        Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                        Funny how those who act all upset when Trump says something mean about someone are always the ones who attack Trump's looks. It's like being back in grade school.
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                                        • brooks85
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                                          • 01-05-09
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                                          #1140
                                          Originally posted by khicks26
                                          U.S. effective corporate tax rates are not a burden

                                          The top statutory tax rate of 35% in the U.S. is somewhat higher than that of 30 other OECD countries, but the average effective tax rate — the actual rate paid after deductions and credits — is slightly lower than our competitors, according to the Congressional Research Service (CRS).
                                          Several studies have found that U.S. corporations pay a similar or a lower effective tax rate — the rate actually paid — than corporations in other countries. For example:

                                          Some corporations pay nothing in taxes

                                          • General Electric, Boeing, Priceline.com, Verizon and 22 other profitable Fortune 500 firms paid no federal income taxes from 2008 through 2012, according to Citizens for Tax Justice.
                                          • 111 profitable Fortune 500 firms paid zero federal taxes in at least one of those five years.
                                          • General Electric, one of the most notorious corporate tax dodgers, got $3.1 billion in refunds on $27.5 billion in profits from 2008 to 2012. The company paid less in federal income taxes in five years than a single American family pays in one year.

                                          Lower tax rates do not boost growth and jobs

                                          Conservatives claim reducing the corporate tax rate will substantially grow the economy. But a cut in the statutory rate from 35% to 25% would increase economic output by less than two-tenths of one percent, according to CRS. Economic growth over the past 60 years has actually been stronger when corporate tax rates were higher, according to the Economic Policy Institute. U.S. corporate tax rates also are not hurting profits — before-tax and after-tax corporate profits as a percentage of national income are at post–World War II highs.
                                          There is no relationship between cutting corporate tax rates and job growth, according to a recent study by the Center for Effective Government. Twenty-two of the 30 profitable Fortune 500 companies that paid the highest tax rates (30% or more) from 2008 to 2010 created almost 200,000 jobs between 2008 and 2012. The 30 profitable corporations that paid little or no taxes over the three years collectively shed 51,289 jobs between 2008 and 2012.
                                          lol khicks posting something that proves he is an idiot and doesn't even realize it. Typical clockwork khicks.
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                                          • khicks26
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                                            • 09-16-06
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                                            #1141
                                            Originally posted by brooks85
                                            lol khicks posting something that proves he is an idiot and doesn't even realize it. Typical clockwork khicks.
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                                            • DwightShrute
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                                              • 01-17-09
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                                              #1142
                                              Originally posted by khicks26
                                              man I would love to play a round or 2 on that course
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                                              • khicks26
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                                                • 09-16-06
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                                                #1143
                                                Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                man I would love to play a round or 2 on that course
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                                                • RoyBacon
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                                                  • 09-21-05
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                                                  #1144
                                                  hicks your article is from a left wing nut pub. Here is their mission statement;

                                                  Mission & Program

                                                  ATF’s primary purpose is to educate and mobilize the public to get policymakers to support comprehensive, progressive tax reform that results in greater federal revenue to reduce inequality and to meet America’s growing needs. If the United States fails to raise sufficient tax revenues, we will face deep cuts to services and benefits that are essential to what makes this country great and be unable to make the investments necessary to create an economy that works for all of us. Read more.

                                                  Seriously?
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                                                  • DwightShrute
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                                                    #1145
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                                                    • khicks26
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                                                      #1146
                                                      Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                                      hicks your article is from a left wing nut pub. Here is their mission statement;

                                                      Mission & Program

                                                      ATF’s primary purpose is to educate and mobilize the public to get policymakers to support comprehensive, progressive tax reform that results in greater federal revenue to reduce inequality and to meet America’s growing needs. If the United States fails to raise sufficient tax revenues, we will face deep cuts to services and benefits that are essential to what makes this country great and be unable to make the investments necessary to create an economy that works for all of us. Read more.

                                                      Seriously?
                                                      The numbers come from the OECD.
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                                                      • RoyBacon
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                                                        • 09-21-05
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                                                        #1147
                                                        Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                                        hicks your article is from a left wing nut pub. Here is their mission statement;

                                                        Mission & Program

                                                        ATF’s primary purpose is to educate and mobilize the public to get policymakers to support comprehensive, progressive tax reform that results in greater federal revenue to reduce inequality and to meet America’s growing needs. If the United States fails to raise sufficient tax revenues, we will face deep cuts to services and benefits that are essential to what makes this country great and be unable to make the investments necessary to create an economy that works for all of us. Read more.
                                                        The only way to keep your free handouts is to grow the economy. "If the United States fails to raise sufficient tax revenues, we will face deep cuts to services and benefits..". This is what I have been telling you guys. The only way to get more sustainable tax revenue is to grow the economy. They are right your handouts are in jeopardy. But they are wrong to think killing the economy with higher taxes is the solution.
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                                                        • brooks85
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                                                          • 01-05-09
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                                                          #1148
                                                          Originally posted by brooks85
                                                          lol khicks posting something that proves he is an idiot and doesn't even realize it. Typical clockwork khicks.
                                                          like I said, your posting bot must be broken... lol you're a liar khicks. A lair who voted to increase the islamic invasion and to support illegals.
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                                                          • RoyBacon
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                                                            #1149
                                                            Originally posted by khicks26
                                                            The numbers come from the OECD.
                                                            Dude your article comes from a pseudo commie site https://americansfortaxfairness.org/...ate-tax-rates/

                                                            Don't be a rock. Apple is not leaving Ireland to pay 35%. HP just added 3000 good jobs to the tax zone in Costa Rica. Look around where you are sitting; everything you see, touch and wear was made outside the US. You are really fooling yourself if you think we can keep taxes high, run jobs out and not pay the price.

                                                            It is a matter of survival to grow the economy.
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                                                            • khicks26
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                                                              • 09-16-06
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                                                              #1150
                                                              Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                                              The only way to keep your free handouts is to grow the economy. "If the United States fails to raise sufficient tax revenues, we will face deep cuts to services and benefits..". This is what I have been telling you guys. The only way to get more sustainable tax revenue is to grow the economy. They are right your handouts are in jeopardy. But they are wrong to think killing the economy with higher taxes is the solution.
                                                              There is no relationship between cutting corporate tax rates and job growth, according to a recent study by the Center for Effective Government. Twenty-two of the 30 profitable Fortune 500 companies that paid the highest tax rates (30% or more) from 2008 to 2010 created almost 200,000 jobs between 2008 and 2012. The 30 profitable corporations that paid little or no taxes over the three years collectively shed 51,289 jobs between 2008 and 2012.
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                                                              • khicks26
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                                                                • 09-16-06
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                                                                #1151
                                                                Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                                                Dude your article comes from a pseudo commie site https://americansfortaxfairness.org/...ate-tax-rates/

                                                                Don't be a rock. Apple is not leaving Ireland to pay 35%. HP just added 3000 good jobs to the tax zone in Costa Rica. Look around where you are sitting; everything you see, touch and wear was made outside the US. You are really fooling yourself if you think we can keep taxes high, run jobs out and not pay the price.

                                                                It is a matter of survival to grow the economy.
                                                                If you read my post you would know apple doesn't pay a 35% rate.
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                                                                • jtoler
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                                                                  #1152
                                                                  Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                                                  Dude your article comes from a pseudo commie site https://americansfortaxfairness.org/...ate-tax-rates/

                                                                  Don't be a rock. Apple is not leaving Ireland to pay 35%. HP just added 3000 good jobs to the tax zone in Costa Rica. Look around where you are sitting; everything you see, touch and wear was made outside the US. You are really fooling yourself if you think we can keep taxes high, run jobs out and not pay the price.

                                                                  It is a matter of survival to grow the economy.
                                                                  What party do you think you would have been a affiliated with if we were in the 1800's?
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                                                                  • khicks26
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                                                                    • 09-16-06
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                                                                    #1153
                                                                    Originally posted by brooks85
                                                                    like I said, your posting bot must be broken... lol you're a liar khicks. A lair who voted to increase the islamic invasion and to support illegals.
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                                                                    • brooks85
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                                                                      • 01-05-09
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                                                                      #1154
                                                                      ^your desperation is as obvious as d2 and jtoler's


                                                                      Originally posted by brooks85
                                                                      like I said, your posting bot must be broken... lol you're a liar khicks. A lair who voted to increase the islamic invasion and to support illegals.
                                                                      no matter how many times you try, you can't change reality alice.
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                                                                      • khicks26
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                                                                        • 09-16-06
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                                                                        #1155
                                                                        Originally posted by brooks85
                                                                        ^your desperation is as obvious as d2 and jtoler's




                                                                        no matter how many times you try, you can't change reality alice.
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