Belk Bowl- Virginia Tech vs Arkansas in game thread

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  • BigDofBA
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    • 09-30-09
    • 19313

    #141
    Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
    He was also claiming Vtech had to for for it on 4th down at midfield when it was a 17 pt game. lol
    Yeah, it was like 4th and 11 from the 48 yard line and it was 17-0 with like 9 minutes left in the second quarter.

    Idiot.
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    • Eddy Munny
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      • 08-13-13
      • 15768

      #142
      Originally posted by rizespor
      I'm not sure that's right.. I had to have seen holding/block in the back penalties during punts before the receiving team actually catches the punts... Right?

      I mean it seems so strange thinking about it but..
      It's not that common of a call.... I mean I'm not 100% sure this is even what happened as I'm only half-ass watching the game but that's what I believe happened.

      The whole set of circumstances just made for a weird sequence and it didn't help that the commentators were completely clueless.
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      • rizespor
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        • 06-21-16
        • 1900

        #143
        That is bizarre. For some reason can't wrap my head around it but that must be what happened. I'm surprised of the thousands and thousands of punts I don't ever remember something like this happening before as it seems like it's something I'd remember
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        • YoungGambler
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          • 09-15-14
          • 1744

          #144
          What it says on Espn play by play

          4th and 1 at ARK 19

          (1:52 - 2nd) VIRGINIA TECH Penalty, Defensive Holding (10 Yards) to the Ark 29 for a 1ST down
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          • Eddy Munny
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            • 08-13-13
            • 15768

            #145
            Originally posted by ans61201
            Except a holding penarly on a speical special teams return is just added to the end of the run as a 10 yard losss. So no that wouldn't explain the screw up
            Bro, you didn't read all my posts. I addressed this.
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            • ans61201
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              • 10-11-15
              • 3661

              #146
              Well as confusing as it is they just explained it
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              • Eddy Munny
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                • 08-13-13
                • 15768

                #147
                Yeah, commentator confirms penalty was at the line of scrimmage.
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                • rizespor
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                  • 06-21-16
                  • 1900

                  #148
                  Either way props to fatboy for recognizing the situation and getting the call in his favor
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                  • ans61201
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                    • 10-11-15
                    • 3661

                    #149
                    Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                    Bro, you didn't read all my posts. I addressed this.

                    And your reasoning was incorrect. The reason was just explained. A rule nobody on this thread knew about
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                    • ans61201
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                      • 10-11-15
                      • 3661

                      #150
                      Perfect start for tech backers. Shiiiit
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                      • rizespor
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                        • 06-21-16
                        • 1900

                        #151
                        Still watching on mute. Guess I missed out on the explanation
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                        • JayDr3am
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                          • 05-06-14
                          • 18260

                          #152
                          Originally posted by johnnyvegas13
                          really ?

                          in that case ill wet my beak w 2nd half moneyline
                          yeah i watched him say it. i really do think they will come out with their foot still on the peddle. cant believe they are a touchdown dog
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                          • Fred The Hammer
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                            • 08-13-13
                            • 11582

                            #153
                            Jeez....so predictable. Glad they missed the fg before half
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                            • krk1030
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                              • 08-13-08
                              • 17610

                              #154
                              Knew a td was coming early 3rd


                              Where was that in the first half
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                              • ans61201
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                                • 10-11-15
                                • 3661

                                #155
                                Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                                Yeah, commentator confirms penalty was at the line of scrimmage.
                                And the penalty at the line of scrimmage in a normal situation is added to end of the run. It only mattered because of a live ball and early whistle.
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                                • Brutus84
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 09-08-11
                                  • 5188

                                  #156
                                  Arkansas better keep firing. Soft ass coverage
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                                  • Eddy Munny
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                                    • 08-13-13
                                    • 15768

                                    #157
                                    Originally posted by ans61201
                                    And your reasoning was incorrect. The reason was just explained. A rule nobody on this thread knew about
                                    It wasn't incorrect. The inadverdent whistle is irrelevant because Virginia Tech recovered the ball, thus the accepted penalty means first and ten for Arkansas... which is what I said all along. You're just dim.
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                                    • ans61201
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                                      • 10-11-15
                                      • 3661

                                      #158
                                      Ark looked pretty flat there. Pretty bad break to get ball at half and 90 seconds later the other team has 7.
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                                      • ans61201
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                                        • 10-11-15
                                        • 3661

                                        #159
                                        Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                                        It wasn't incorrect. The inadverdent whistle is irrelevant because Virginia Tech recovered the ball, thus the accepted penalty means first and ten for Arkansas... which is what I said all along. You're just dim.


                                        We can wager whatever you'd like, a holding penalty at the line of scrimmage on a punt by the return team is tacked on to the end of the run in any other situation. Again just explained for your hard to understand self, your reasoning was only correct because of the added layer of early whistle
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                                        • Bluehorseshoe
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                                          • 07-13-06
                                          • 15003

                                          #160
                                          This is crazy.
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                                          • Brutus84
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                                            • 09-08-11
                                            • 5188

                                            #161
                                            Is this penetrate trying to throw the game
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                                            • Bluehorseshoe
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                                              • 07-13-06
                                              • 15003

                                              #162
                                              Did that go into the endzone or straight out of bounds?
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                                              • BigDofBA
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                                                • 09-30-09
                                                • 19313

                                                #163
                                                The call was right. I figured out what happened.

                                                We are all confused because the announcers suck.

                                                They acted like here was a hold on the return when it was actually a hold at the line of scrimmage.

                                                The recovery or lack thereof was irrelevant.

                                                The announcers should have let us know where the flag was actually at. Instead they just acted like Tech recovered and it was a horrible call.
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                                                • YoungGambler
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                                                  • 09-15-14
                                                  • 1744

                                                  #164
                                                  booo that fumble when you have the over
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                                                  • JayDr3am
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                                                    • 05-06-14
                                                    • 18260

                                                    #165
                                                    alright razorbacks lets not start this shit
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                                                    • Eddy Munny
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                                                      • 08-13-13
                                                      • 15768

                                                      #166
                                                      Originally posted by ans61201
                                                      We can wager whatever you'd like, a holding penalty at the line of scrimmage on a punt by the return team is tacked on to the end of the run in any other situation. Again just explained for your hard to understand self, your reasoning was only correct because of the added layer of early whistle
                                                      But you told me if there was an immediate recovery after the whistle, that the whistle does not then signify a dead ball. Those were your words. You said that to me and then did a little turkey dance, I'm guessing because of the alcohol consumption.
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                                                      • ans61201
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                                                        • 10-11-15
                                                        • 3661

                                                        #167
                                                        Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
                                                        Did that go into the endzone or straight out of bounds?

                                                        Thought it was was close enough for a second look, but they're all out of delays lol. Damn it, secure the ball. Back up 24 this is over. Now they have new life
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                                                        • BigDofBA
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                                                          • 09-30-09
                                                          • 19313

                                                          #168
                                                          Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
                                                          Did that go into the endzone or straight out of bounds?
                                                          It looked out of bounds. Didn't the ref standing right there mark it at the 1 yard line?

                                                          Then they huddled and ruled touchback.
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                                                          • Fred The Hammer
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                                                            • 08-13-13
                                                            • 11582

                                                            #169
                                                            Guys risk losing the ball every weekend by stretching for the goal line when it would be 1st, 2nd or 3rd/goal from the half yard line. Its human nature but have to be smart. That TD puts Ark up 24 again and prob ends the game
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                                                            • ans61201
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                                                              • 10-11-15
                                                              • 3661

                                                              #170
                                                              Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                                                              But you told me if there was an immediate recovery after the whistle, that the whistle does not then signify a dead ball. Those were your words. You said that to me and then did a little turkey dance, I'm guessing because of the alcohol consumption.

                                                              No dance. In ANY situation without an early whistle, your "penalty at the line of scrimmage" explanation is no good. Nobody on this forum or in that arena knew the rule except ark coach. Yourself included.
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                                                              • Bluehorseshoe
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                                                                • 07-13-06
                                                                • 15003

                                                                #171
                                                                Originally posted by BigDofBA
                                                                It looked out of bounds. Didn't the ref standing right there mark it at the 1 yard line?

                                                                Then they huddled and ruled touchback.
                                                                It's unreal. I'm going to shoot this TV soon.
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                                                                • YoungGambler
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                                                                  • 09-15-14
                                                                  • 1744

                                                                  #172
                                                                  what the hell -7 is out
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                                                                  • Brutus84
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                                                                    • 09-08-11
                                                                    • 5188

                                                                    #173
                                                                    VT has to be perfect still to win. Better not see that shit happen.
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                                                                    • Eddy Munny
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                                                                      • 08-13-13
                                                                      • 15768

                                                                      #174
                                                                      Touche... but you still did the turkey dance. I know what I saw.
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                                                                      • Brutus84
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                                                                        • 09-08-11
                                                                        • 5188

                                                                        #175
                                                                        This soft ass coverage gotta stop
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