He was also claiming Vtech had to for for it on 4th down at midfield when it was a 17 pt game. lol
Yeah, it was like 4th and 11 from the 48 yard line and it was 17-0 with like 9 minutes left in the second quarter.
Idiot.
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Eddy Munny
Benched
08-13-13
15769
#142
Originally posted by rizespor
I'm not sure that's right.. I had to have seen holding/block in the back penalties during punts before the receiving team actually catches the punts... Right?
I mean it seems so strange thinking about it but..
It's not that common of a call.... I mean I'm not 100% sure this is even what happened as I'm only half-ass watching the game but that's what I believe happened.
The whole set of circumstances just made for a weird sequence and it didn't help that the commentators were completely clueless.
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rizespor
SBR MVP
06-21-16
1900
#143
That is bizarre. For some reason can't wrap my head around it but that must be what happened. I'm surprised of the thousands and thousands of punts I don't ever remember something like this happening before as it seems like it's something I'd remember
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YoungGambler
SBR MVP
09-15-14
1744
#144
What it says on Espn play by play
4th and 1 at ARK 19
(1:52 - 2nd) VIRGINIA TECH Penalty, Defensive Holding (10 Yards) to the Ark 29 for a 1ST down
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Eddy Munny
Benched
08-13-13
15769
#145
Originally posted by ans61201
Except a holding penarly on a speical special teams return is just added to the end of the run as a 10 yard losss. So no that wouldn't explain the screw up
Bro, you didn't read all my posts. I addressed this.
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ans61201
SBR MVP
10-11-15
3661
#146
Well as confusing as it is they just explained it
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Eddy Munny
Benched
08-13-13
15769
#147
Yeah, commentator confirms penalty was at the line of scrimmage.
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rizespor
SBR MVP
06-21-16
1900
#148
Either way props to fatboy for recognizing the situation and getting the call in his favor
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ans61201
SBR MVP
10-11-15
3661
#149
Originally posted by Eddy Munny
Bro, you didn't read all my posts. I addressed this.
And your reasoning was incorrect. The reason was just explained. A rule nobody on this thread knew about
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ans61201
SBR MVP
10-11-15
3661
#150
Perfect start for tech backers. Shiiiit
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rizespor
SBR MVP
06-21-16
1900
#151
Still watching on mute. Guess I missed out on the explanation
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JayDr3am
SBR Posting Legend
05-06-14
18260
#152
Originally posted by johnnyvegas13
really ?
in that case ill wet my beak w 2nd half moneyline
yeah i watched him say it. i really do think they will come out with their foot still on the peddle. cant believe they are a touchdown dog
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Fred The Hammer
SBR Posting Legend
08-13-13
11720
#153
Jeez....so predictable. Glad they missed the fg before half
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krk1030
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08-13-08
17610
#154
Knew a td was coming early 3rd
Where was that in the first half
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ans61201
SBR MVP
10-11-15
3661
#155
Originally posted by Eddy Munny
Yeah, commentator confirms penalty was at the line of scrimmage.
And the penalty at the line of scrimmage in a normal situation is added to end of the run. It only mattered because of a live ball and early whistle.
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Brutus84
SBR Hall of Famer
09-08-11
5188
#156
Arkansas better keep firing. Soft ass coverage
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Eddy Munny
Benched
08-13-13
15769
#157
Originally posted by ans61201
And your reasoning was incorrect. The reason was just explained. A rule nobody on this thread knew about
It wasn't incorrect. The inadverdent whistle is irrelevant because Virginia Tech recovered the ball, thus the accepted penalty means first and ten for Arkansas... which is what I said all along. You're just dim.
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ans61201
SBR MVP
10-11-15
3661
#158
Ark looked pretty flat there. Pretty bad break to get ball at half and 90 seconds later the other team has 7.
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ans61201
SBR MVP
10-11-15
3661
#159
Originally posted by Eddy Munny
It wasn't incorrect. The inadverdent whistle is irrelevant because Virginia Tech recovered the ball, thus the accepted penalty means first and ten for Arkansas... which is what I said all along. You're just dim.
We can wager whatever you'd like, a holding penalty at the line of scrimmage on a punt by the return team is tacked on to the end of the run in any other situation. Again just explained for your hard to understand self, your reasoning was only correct because of the added layer of early whistle
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Bluehorseshoe
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07-13-06
15058
#160
This is crazy.
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Brutus84
SBR Hall of Famer
09-08-11
5188
#161
Is this penetrate trying to throw the game
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Bluehorseshoe
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07-13-06
15058
#162
Did that go into the endzone or straight out of bounds?
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BigDofBA
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09-30-09
19313
#163
The call was right. I figured out what happened.
We are all confused because the announcers suck.
They acted like here was a hold on the return when it was actually a hold at the line of scrimmage.
The recovery or lack thereof was irrelevant.
The announcers should have let us know where the flag was actually at. Instead they just acted like Tech recovered and it was a horrible call.
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YoungGambler
SBR MVP
09-15-14
1744
#164
booo that fumble when you have the over
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JayDr3am
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05-06-14
18260
#165
alright razorbacks lets not start this shit
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Eddy Munny
Benched
08-13-13
15769
#166
Originally posted by ans61201
We can wager whatever you'd like, a holding penalty at the line of scrimmage on a punt by the return team is tacked on to the end of the run in any other situation. Again just explained for your hard to understand self, your reasoning was only correct because of the added layer of early whistle
But you told me if there was an immediate recovery after the whistle, that the whistle does not then signify a dead ball. Those were your words. You said that to me and then did a little turkey dance, I'm guessing because of the alcohol consumption.
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ans61201
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10-11-15
3661
#167
Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
Did that go into the endzone or straight out of bounds?
Thought it was was close enough for a second look, but they're all out of delays lol. Damn it, secure the ball. Back up 24 this is over. Now they have new life
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BigDofBA
SBR Posting Legend
09-30-09
19313
#168
Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
Did that go into the endzone or straight out of bounds?
It looked out of bounds. Didn't the ref standing right there mark it at the 1 yard line?
Then they huddled and ruled touchback.
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Fred The Hammer
SBR Posting Legend
08-13-13
11720
#169
Guys risk losing the ball every weekend by stretching for the goal line when it would be 1st, 2nd or 3rd/goal from the half yard line. Its human nature but have to be smart. That TD puts Ark up 24 again and prob ends the game
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ans61201
SBR MVP
10-11-15
3661
#170
Originally posted by Eddy Munny
But you told me if there was an immediate recovery after the whistle, that the whistle does not then signify a dead ball. Those were your words. You said that to me and then did a little turkey dance, I'm guessing because of the alcohol consumption.
No dance. In ANY situation without an early whistle, your "penalty at the line of scrimmage" explanation is no good. Nobody on this forum or in that arena knew the rule except ark coach. Yourself included.
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Bluehorseshoe
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07-13-06
15058
#171
Originally posted by BigDofBA
It looked out of bounds. Didn't the ref standing right there mark it at the 1 yard line?
Then they huddled and ruled touchback.
It's unreal. I'm going to shoot this TV soon.
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YoungGambler
SBR MVP
09-15-14
1744
#172
what the hell -7 is out
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Brutus84
SBR Hall of Famer
09-08-11
5188
#173
VT has to be perfect still to win. Better not see that shit happen.
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Eddy Munny
Benched
08-13-13
15769
#174
Touche... but you still did the turkey dance. I know what I saw.