Belk Bowl- Virginia Tech vs Arkansas in game thread

[JayDr3am]

IS V TECH 2h EVEN A QUESTION OR DOES RAZORBACKS ROLL

[YoungGambler]

That's what I'm wondering. I have the over. Why don't the get the ball at the spot of the fumble?

They just restarted the drive? WTF

wait....this is true. Before the review they were in VT territory

[rizespor]

I'm honestly more mind boggled by the spot then the fumble.....and the fumble was one of the worst calls I've ever seen

There was a penalty... But it was after the kick. It's almost like they enforced the penalty from where they punted

[JayDr3am]

lol dont know why that was caps

[Cuse0323]

Well, this crew will be fired. Oh wait, they can fck up at their job, and still have it.

[krk1030]

Why thw fukk did i not just play ark.

Tech cant even get 1 td to hit the over. Losers

[Fred The Hammer]

Jesus....the 5-7 bowl teams could roll Va Tech tonite. They can't do shit

[ans61201]

wait....this is true. Before the review they were in VT territory

Yes. Recap. Punt from ark 20. To 50. Fumble to Vtech 38. Blown dead at 36. Holding penalty on Vtech. Fumble awarded to ark. And they start the drive on their own 18? What in the actual penetrate

[rizespor]

24-24 ot

[Fred The Hammer]

They awarded possession from a ball rolling around on the ground and then moved the spot like 30-40 yards.....that's the weirdest shit I've ever seen

[ans61201]

IS V TECH 2h EVEN A QUESTION OR DOES RAZORBACKS ROLL

Vtech seems to obvious. Scared of teams down this much in a bowl that doesn't matter. You'll know in the first two possessions. If they get a stop and score they will pull this within 10 before finish. Or they will quit and it'll be a route

[BigDofBA]

I think Biliema intimidated the refs and got them to totally penetrate up the call.

Va. Tech recovered the ball at their 26 yard line.

How Arkansas retained possession AND RESTARTED THEIR DRIVE AT THEIR OWN 30 is beyond me.

Even if you penetrate up the call, shouldn't Arkansas get the ball where he fumble occurred?

WTF just happened. It seems like the refs screw up 3-4 things on one play.

[rizespor]

They awarded possession from a ball rolling around on the ground and then moved the spot like 30-40 yards.....that's the weirdest shit I've ever seen

basically sums it up

[Cuse0323]

So confused. It doesn't help that Dan Patrick is senile. They didn't even mention how the field completely flipped. Weirdest shit I've ever seen.

[Eddy Munny]

As far as I can tell, there was a holding penalty on V. Tech during the punt play.... Once it was determined that the Hokies actually recovered the ball (initially ruled Ark) then Razorbacks obviously accepted the penalty that gave them a new set of downs from where they punted plus the penalty yardage.

So in other words, the refs got it right... Hokies recovered, but the penalty negated the play and gave Arkansas a first down. The television crew was lost as to what actually happened.

[Fred The Hammer]

I think Biliema intimidated the refs and got them to totally penetrate up the call.

Va. Tech recovered the ball at their 26 yard line.

How Arkansas retained possession AND RESTARTED THEIR DRIVE AT THEIR OWN 30 is beyond me.

Even if you penetrate up the call, shouldn't Arkansas get the ball where he fumble occurred?

WTF just happened. It seems like the refs screw up 3-4 things on one play.

I want to say they thought Va Tech got screwed but Bielema was technically right about the whistle so they invented a makeup phantom spot & moved the ball 40-50 yards...lol

Why not just call holding 2-3 times in a row on Ark instead?

[kingdom]

espn put the stat up. arkansas this season +63 pts 1H, -62 2H. pretty good indicator of the way the second half should go. i'm taking tech and giving the 6.5

[Bluehorseshoe]

But they ran two plays in V Tech territory and then was brought back to their own part of the field. It's crazy.

They stopped what they were doing during the commercial and made believe it didn't happen.

[johnnyvegas13]

IS V TECH 2h EVEN A QUESTION OR DOES RAZORBACKS ROLL

i took arky and under 2nd half

[rizespor]

As far as I can tell, there was a holding penalty on V. Tech during the punt play.... Once it was determined that the Hokies actually recovered the ball (initially ruled Ark) then Razorbacks obviously accepted the penalty that gave them a new set of downs from where they punted plus the penalty yardage.

So in other words, the refs got it right... Hokies recovered, but the penalty negated the play and gave Arkansas a first down. The television crew was lost as to what actually happened.

That's what it seemed like... But wasn't the penalty during the kick? So tech should retain possession and spot foul

[JayDr3am]

Bielema just guaranteed to win the second half....

[kingdom]

So confused. It doesn't help that Dan Patrick is senile. They didn't even mention how the field completely flipped. Weirdest shit I've ever seen.

lol to pot vs. kettle

[Fred The Hammer]

Bottom line....lesson to be learned here fellas. FAKE IT TIL YOU MAKE IT. The head official should've been loud and got fat boy off the fkn field and made the call right or wrong. Signal which side is doing what and move on. Instead they sat there and mumbled like a bunch of pussies

[BigDofBA]

As far as I can tell, there was a holding penalty on V. Tech during the punt play.... Once it was determined that the Hokies actually recovered the ball (initially ruled Ark) then Razorbacks obviously accepted the penalty that gave them a new set of downs from where they punted plus the penalty yardage.

So in other words, the refs got it right... Hokies recovered, but the penalty negated the play and gave Arkansas a first down. The television crew was lost as to what actually happened.

So if team A punts to team B and Team B has a holding call, Team A gets the ball back from where they punted?

That's not right at all. Team A retains possession and the ball is moved back 10 yards.

I don't understand how an inadvertent whistle after Arkansas punted, gives the ball back to Arkansas from where they punted.

Arkansas punted it away and never regained possession.

BTW, the announces suck. Robert Smith was trying to argue Arkansas didn't score a TD on a play they reviewed earlier.....you could clearly see it was a TD when they put the replay on the screen and froze it. Morons....

[Cuse0323]

lol to pot vs. kettle

I assume you're saying that I'm senile, because I said Dan. Not in a very articulate way, but you may be right.

[Eddy Munny]

That's what it seemed like... But wasn't the penalty during the kick? So tech should retain possession and spot foul

Not necessarily... if it's on the return, that's one thing, but I believe the penalty that occurred was enforced before VT gained possession, thus resulting in a new set of downs for the Arkansas offense.

Obviously, Bielema initially declined the penalty because he thought he'd recovered a muffed punt. Upon review, he did not and accepted the penalty.

[johnnyvegas13]

Bielema just guaranteed to win the second half....

really ?

in that case ill wet my beak w 2nd half moneyline

[Bluehorseshoe]

BTW, the announces suck. Robert Smith was trying to argue Arkansas didn't score a TD on a play they reviewed earlier.....you could clearly see it was a TD when they put the replay on the screen and froze it. Morons....

He was also claiming Vtech had to go for for it on 4th down at midfield when it was a 17 pt game. lol

[Eddy Munny]

So if team A punts to team B and Team B has a holding call, Team A gets the ball back from where they punted?

That's not right at all. Team A retains possession and the ball is moved back 10 yards.

I don't understand how an inadvertent whistle after Arkansas punted, gives the ball back to Arkansas from where they punted.

Arkansas punted it away and never regained possession.

BTW, the announces suck. Robert Smith was trying to argue Arkansas didn't score a TD on a play they reviewed earlier.....you could clearly see it was a TD when they put the replay on the screen and froze it. Morons....

The hold wasn't on the return.... it was probably at the line of scrimmage, or on a gunner, while the ball was in the air.

Basically, it's the same as defensive holding on a WR, but just so happened to be called on a punt play... but a new set of downs nonetheless.

[Cuse0323]

The hold wasn't on the return.... it was probably at the line of scrimmage while the ball was in the air.

It still should be from the end of the spot. But, I have no clue at this point. Something ridiculous happened.

[rizespor]

Not necessarily... if it's on the return, that's one thing, but I believe the penalty that occurred was enforced before VT gained possession, thus resulting in a new set of downs for the Arkansas offense.

Obviously, Bielema initially declined the penalty because he thought he'd recovered a muffed punt. Upon review, he did not and accepted the penalty.

I'm not sure that's right.. I had to have seen holding/block in the back penalties during punts before the receiving team actually catches the punts... Right?

I mean it seems so strange thinking about it but..

[kingdom]

i took arky and under 2nd half

thats not how these bowl games work

[BigDofBA]

The hold wasn't on the return.... it was probably at the line of scrimmage, or on a gunner, while the ball was in the air.

Basically, it's the same as defensive holding on a WR, but just so happened to be called on a punt play... but a new set of downs nonetheless.

Do we know that? That's a totally different thing then and the announcers were clueless.

I think these dumbass announcers are confusing me.

[Fred The Hammer]

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[ans61201]

As far as I can tell, there was a holding penalty on V. Tech during the punt play.... Once it was determined that the Hokies actually recovered the ball (initially ruled Ark) then Razorbacks obviously accepted the penalty that gave them a new set of downs from where they punted plus the penalty yardage.

So in other words, the refs got it right... Hokies recovered, but the penalty negated the play and gave Arkansas a first down. The television crew was lost as to what actually happened.

Except a holding penarly on a speical special teams return is just added to the end of the run as a 10 yard losss. So no that wouldn't explain the screw up