I'm a millennial help me understand

[Sam Odom]

3try , how money did you lose on Hillary

Sammy lost about 950 -- got a bad # also


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[Buffalo Nickle]

That is a great question that no one from the left will probably answer. I mean there are So many inbred uneducated racists that voted for Trump, then surely they were here in 2008 and 2012 right?

Now we have hashtags of assassinate Trump trending on twitter. Funny how the ones that are supposedly so tolerable and peaceful are the ones who are actually the most violent. But then again when you go and look at all of the counties that Hillary won, they also contain the cities with the most crime, so violent behavior from Dems shouldn't really be surprising.

Most R voters are too old to get violent. They just tell at the TV. Youngsters have to blow off some steam. You have to watch out for them because they will sometimes start a revolution.

[trytrytry]

Sam very profitable election season (granted its impossible to be up enough lots of middles and grinding and found lots of value peaks both ways the entire cycle past year. Way too many things to list maybe 300 total wagers big and small on election stuff. at least. my best Trump to win the election price was 6-1 early in election night when the clinton line first took off and lots of 4.5-1 a few days before election (I know some did better, the 20-1 50-1 stuff early in the primaries I did miss some spots). best Clinton price I played (obvioulsy lost was +120) and lost my -120, -160 and -220 Clinton wagers some made in primaries some made in Spring and Summer and when things got tight also pre election 2 weeks ago those all lost of course. Props were off the charts good, esp % vote for both candidates, really hammered the clinton popular vote % Prop, crushed trump +99.5 electoral a huge postion, and state by state props were great, only bad state loss I had was a large (too large I messed up) REP win NEvada +350 wager. Got a tiny lucky on Dem win New Hampshire that was super close and I had -200 which was terrible value as it turns out but won it was happy for that one, great was REP win Ohio had a lots of + positions when the state props first came out with Clinton leading nationally and in most toss up states, so did catch a few breaks also.

[khicks26]

Sanders might have lost to Trump but probably not. He won Michigan and Wisconsin in the primary over Clinton. Those are Dem leaning states and he fired up the Dems in those states. He represented the unions which Clinton did not.

Dems hate unions almost as much as Rs. That's where they lost.

Millennial Dems are like all Dems. They are wimps. They get kicked around. They don't fight back. That's why they are going protest instead of going after the Rs. They will eventually roll over.

So here is what you can expect in the future from Dems, they will whine about Trump even though they voted for him by taking Clinton over Bernie. Bernie was an actual Dem.

Good thing about Trump is that he is more liberal than Clinton. He is already talking about an FDR infrastructure project which is something that Clinton would never have done.

What you can expect is for the Dems to run a wimp against Trump in 2020 and get beat. They will whine and not vote and then the rednecks will kill them at the polls.

In 2024, Julian Castro will be Barack Obama 2.0 and Mexicans will vote in numbers off the charts and win Texas and Arizona and blow the Rs out of the water.
That is what you can expect.

Right the corporate two party system will keep puking out the candidate of change every 4 to 8 years & keep the system going until we change the system. Millennials will have no choice once the old fuks die off but to change the system. If we make it that far.

[Sam Odom]

those "old fuks" were the Beat generation and or the Flower Children... very anti-establishment - those "Turn on, tune in, drop out" people


point being: People change

[The Giant]

3try , how money did you lose on Hillary

Sammy lost about 950 -- got a bad # also


.

How did you feel after this loss, Sammy?

[Sam Odom]

How did you feel after this loss, Sammy?

honestly... no BS

it was worth the $1K lost

[khicks26]

those "old fuks" were the Beat generation and or the Flower Children... very anti-establishment - those "Turn on, tune in, drop out" people


point being: People change

Yes they do. You get old & lose heart. Some are born with no heart. Not everyone was a Flower Child. Hell Manson was part of that culture & he's no Flower Child.

[Sam Odom]

a paraphrase

"hard to be a conservative when you have nothing to conserve"

millennials have nothing to conserve except Mother Earth


wait till they are 40+ with a house note and 2 kids and then someone in Wash DC wants to take more (tax) of their take-home pay

[KRIT]

things will die down in about a week. same old thing with black lives matter. someone gets shot, people riot for a few days, then everyone goes back to their normal lives.

[khicks26]

a paraphrase

"hard to be a conservative when you have nothing to conserve"

millennials have nothing to conserve except Mother Earth


wait till they are 40+ with a house note and 2 kids and then someone in Wash DC wants to take more (tax) of their take-home pay

Also hard to be a conservative when there is no earth. The Earth Mother is pissed & has had enough of the human race.

May not have to worry about that house, those kids & those tax's after all.

[Sam Odom]

The Earth Mother is pissed & has had enough of the human race.

OK...

[khicks26]

OK...

Yeah don't worry, us old fuks will never see it anyway. OK...

[Roadtrip635]

This was a very contentious election with two horrible choices. This election, imo, has exposed the flaws and failings of the two-party system. This election had less to do with people's faith in a particular candidate and more about which candidate they hated less. Regardless of who won this election, they was going to be protests. It's hard to believe people would expect otherwise after watching and listening to the campaign. If Hillary had won there would be protests as well and more than likely Trump would have encouraged it, much like he did after the 2012 Election.


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[teaserpleaser]

So much for that wall huh

lolz day one

that motherfukker backs down from one of his major promises


its a fukkin fence extension Lolz


dummies

[bigtymer56]

Right the corporate two party system will keep puking out the candidate of change every 4 to 8 years & keep the system going until we change the system. Millennials will have no choice once the old fuks die off but to change the system. If we make it that far.

Was taking with my gf yesterday about how its sad that our parents generation is going to have to die off before we see any real change.

Nickle - See your point about Dems being pussies. Somebody just pointed out to me Senator Warren talking about putting aside differences with Trump. Always the first bend. smh.

[ROTTINGCHRIST]

[daneblazer]

College kids end up getting jobs and families and shift more conservative or moderate as they get older. kids don't vote. "Old" people do. It's been like this for decades and decades. People act like this group of college kids are more liberal than they've been in the past. They aren't

[15805]

things will die down in about a week. same old thing with black lives matter. someone gets shot, people riot for a few days, then everyone goes back to their normal lives.

The media was the villain as it did not prepare these poor souls for defeat!
The Republicans finally had a candidate who was willing to take it on &
the public rolled the dice on that candidate.

[maggiethebestdog]

There is a reason college students are mainly liberal. They have never been in the real world. They have probably not worked a full time job. They believe the lies of the media and their hack professors who all failed at their life endeavors. The professional victim mentality is groomed there. They need to go to school, get a job, pay rent and they will see they have been lied to.

[Cuse0323]

All I know is I hate this word, and the fact that I'm considered one of them. I'm too old for this shit.

[jjgold]

Well I know are millennial is a jerk off's

Fuk them

Trump is The King now

[Cuse0323]

I don't understand why they are destroying their own cities. In which the people that live there, mostly voted for Hillary.

[stealthyburrito]

I don't really like the guy, but Michael Moore has been spot on this election, he's come out this week trying to make sense for the Dems and listed things they should do. For the most part, he's right again

Cracked had a good article too

http://www.cracked.com/blog/dont-panic/

i find it interesting that this is the first time in the social media era that the Dems have lost a presidential election. If you ever go to a forum of a big school after a loss it's Full. Fukkkin. Meltdown.

Youre seeing the reaction of kids who have never tasted defeat until now

Daner, I read that article. The author Jason Pargins (pen name David Wong) is a genius in my opinion. He also authored "How half of America lost its penetrating mind" which is a succinct and well crafted explanation of the trump wave.

Also, he and Jack O'Brien made a podcast on Wednesday entitled "What the penetrate happened".

It is 72 minutes and I highly, HIGHLY recommend everyone to give it a listen. These aren't liberal pukes shitting all over conservatives, it feels like an autopsy explaining the election, the climate of the exurban life, the media's shaming of said exurbans through the guise of claiming moral high ground over the trump wave, and how we can help each other help ourselves to be better citizens.

Again, I cannot emphasize more, for whatever it's worth, giving the podcast a listen.

[kidcudi92]

fukk millitards

[stealthyburrito]

Look at the election in regards to Michigan. The voters who went with Obama the last time two times either jumped sides or didn't vote at all. Why? I'm sure a major part of their vote the last two times had to do with some being African American wanting to vote for an African American candidate. The other reasons......Look at what government has done for them the last ten years. Jobs are dwindling and you have Trump promising to put tariffs on cars to bring jobs back to Michigan. You have local government in Flynt that screwed up at an unprecedented level in regards to the water supply there. People don't know what is going to happen to their kids as a result. Nothing good is going on.

Are some of these people going to look at a career politician and say "No More"?........You bet.

Well said blueshoer. It's hard for some to believe, but for many people, particularly those in the rust belt, evaluate a candidate on his/her own merits rather than swear allegiance to a political party.

Those voters you reference are a perfect example. Following the Collapse of 2008 they were ready for a change. They voted for Obama. Fast forward 8 years later, the Obama economic recovery has not benefited the blue collar white working class. Their economic security is not any more safe than in 08. It's seems so obvious but the cloud created by certain trump rhetoric and the reaction of the mainstream media and it's presentation of said information. Their economic security isn't safe, so why the Fukk would they vote for 4 more years of the same?? When an individuals survival is at stake, why would they care if the guy made a few racist/sexist comments? They won't. And I put no blame or shame on them for doing so. They have every right to make a living to ensure a basic level of quality of life, and Clinton was not going to make that happen for them. Job Bush wouldn't have either. Or Rubio. The only choice was trump.

[King Mayan]

Nobody gives a shit about you beaner!

[Slipknot26]

Sleathy,
Here's the difference . It seems although we disagree on politics and path forward, I could sit and talk with you . You're engaging now , that was another downfall on Clinton and the left.
It's a my way thinking and you're wrong, end of story .
I tried talking to some if my liberal friends , they wouldn't even have any of my thinking , it's all wrong.
When you isolate a large group of people, not just white men , and don't even want to discuss how they see things or care what their opinions are, you're done.
That's what happened here.
Trump said this , he said that , hes against women, all immigrants . His followers are racist , sexist , etc
There was no discussion about it . The left isolated the majority of voters and paid dearly .

[stealthyburrito]

This may be a total ramble post but I have to share. Anecdote time

My sister was a huge Hillary supporter. She is also very liberal, not politically oriented, but holds feminist ideals. She saw this opportunity as the ultimate glass shattering moment. For her, it was Clinton or bust.

on the flip side, her husband was a trump supporter. He indeed was one of those folks who didn't publicly acknowledge his support of trump but was ready to vote for him.

One day I asked her, "Have you asked your husband who he is voting for?" She responded with vigor, saying that he better not vote for that POS trump. She said, hyperbolic, that she would divorce the man if he mentioned any favor for trump.

i then asked her if he does support trump have you asked him why? She told me there was no good reason to support that sexist asshole.

Well no that's entirely wrong, and it takes no further than knowing her husband's father to know why he did. He was Born and raised in the outskirts of Vegas. Very poor, very impoverished, very many social issues. His father lost his job in the great collapse of 2008. He voted for Obama. Through those terms, He has not returned to a state of economic viability. Seeing the man's father struggle to find stable work over 8+ years, it is in no way unreasonable for him to vote for change of Obama economics. Empathy, it runs both ways.

[Slipknot26]

That proves my point
No discussion and isolation
My way or the highway . It goes both ways but discussion is key to anything .
Your sister said she would divorce her husband if he "voted for that sexist asshole".
That thinking got Trump in the White House

[stealthyburrito]

Sleathy,
Here's the difference . It seems although we disagree on politics and path forward, I could sit and talk with you . You're engaging now , that was another downfall on Clinton and the left.
It's a my way thinking and you're wrong, end of story .
I tried talking to some if my liberal friends , they wouldn't even have any of my thinking , it's all wrong.
When you isolate a large group of people, not just white men , and don't even want to discuss how they see things or care what their opinions are, you're done.
That's what happened here.
Trump said this , he said that , hes against women, all immigrants . His followers are racist , sexist , etc
There was no discussion about it . The left isolated the majority of voters and paid dearly .

SLIPPER, YES. Many of those on the left claim a higher moral ground. It is wrong. If I was determined to change your mind or anyone's way of thinking, not engaging you in discussion will fail 100% of the time. Saying you're a bigot, sexist, laugh at your beliefs will not achieve my goals unless my goal is to make myself feel better about myself.

Rather than engaging the bulk of trump supporters who sought recovery from a deep recession, liberals, many of whom I know, whom I love, laughed at the whole voting bloc as a bunch of backwards racists. Let's say for the sake of argument, just argument's sake, all of trump supporters are racists. If I would like to have you come around that racism is harmful for our society, laughing at you would not help me achieve my goal. I would debate you, provide you information, studies to CONVINCE you that you are ultimately incorrect in your assumptions. But the left would have none of it. It is a high level of ARROGANCE from the left that contributed to this outcome.

[thetrinity]

College kids end up getting jobs and families and shift more conservative or moderate as they get older. kids don't vote. "Old" people do. It's been like this for decades and decades. People act like this group of college kids are more liberal than they've been in the past. They aren't

exactly, i said the same thing earlier

this is a big reason you dont see the voting age being raised, so the playing field can be kept even

[DwightShrute]

[Cuse0323]

Love you, Stealthy. Well said, in every post. You have hit the nail on the head with what many of us feel. Especially, when it comes to the way things have gone, and would be headed with more of the same.

[stealthyburrito]

That girl is hot as shit, Dwight. In all honesty though, she is damn near right in every facet of her arguments.

Love you, Stealthy. Well said, in every post. You have hit the nail on the head with what many of us feel. Especially, when it comes to the way things have gone, and would be headed with more of the same.

I try. I want to learn from the failure. As a liberal, this is a failure of the utmost magnitude. I understand some of the rhetoric he said was inflammatory. I understand my position, I'm half white and half Mexican. However, I look white and can say I'm culturally white. My name is white. This is the truth. So if trump truly acts on a xenophobic policy I would be ok. But I can accept, and very much understand, how certain folks can be afraid their families might be torn apart. Call me an optimist or perhaps it's right, but he won't do enact those radical right wing policies. Time will tell. This country didn't flip from liberal to extreme right wing overnight. And it will continue to move left, as it has for many decades.

Describe me as you wish, but at this moment in time, I am at peace with Donald trump as president.