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  • HeinousAnus
    SBR Rookie
    • 10-27-06
    • 23

    #1
    Criticism of SBR
    SBR helps punters decide whether or not there funds will be safe. Will there be payout problems? Will the bookie in question declare that they are confiscating the cash, etc.

    However, the real danger is that is very easy to lose all one's money. This is much more common. It is also easy to get addicted and to keep on losing money.

    Imo, by diverting attention away frorm the real dangers, by getting punters to focus on less common problems, SBR encourages punters to think: 'oh there is no problem with payouts, therefore there is no danger at all'.

    By creating a false sense of security, SBR encourages gambling and the problems associated with gambling addiction. Therefore SBR should state clearly why a lot of people suffer from gambling addiction.
  • pags11
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 08-18-05
    • 12264

    #2
    anus,

    I'm not sure your post made any sense...SBR is not G.A...SBR is the best at what they do...which is educating people who want to gamble online where the best and safest places to play are located...go somewhere else if you want to just bitch about gambling...
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    • HeinousAnus
      SBR Rookie
      • 10-27-06
      • 23

      #3
      (GA = gamblers anonymous. right?)

      Yeah it is a good place to learn about the safest places to gamble.

      Because of this they will attract a lot of gamblers to the site and should warn about the problems of gambling. They have an opportunity to protect people from suffering. It isn't going to destroy the SBR to have a few warnings here and there.

      At the moment, SBR creates a false sense of security. The bookies must love them. Especially Pinnacle. Everyone saying how great Pinnacle is A+ this and A+ that. The fact is Pinnacle is a big scam. It makes millions out of ripping people off with crap odds.

      And before you say there odds are the industry's best blah blah. It is still a scam because they are taking juice. It's deceptive in that people don't realise that they will lose in the long run.
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      • Dark Horse
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 12-14-05
        • 13764

        #4
        Go the the home page and scroll down to the bottom. Terms of use or something of that nature.
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        • HeinousAnus
          SBR Rookie
          • 10-27-06
          • 23

          #5
          I know there is a big tendency to say Pinnacles odds are not crap so let me try to explain with an analogy.

          Saying Pinnacles odds are not crap is like comparing two turds. Turd no 1 has no maggots in it. Turd no 2 has maggots in it.

          The Turd Review comes along and says Turd no 1 is great compared to other Turds. It has no maggots, it doesn't smell that bad, etc. [insert long list of reasons why it isn't as bad as other turds].

          Then someone might read the Turd Review and decide "well Turd no 1 has all these positive points therefore it is not a load of crap!"

          All turds are crap. If Pinnacle offered 2.1/2.1 on coin tossing then they would be a decent bookie.
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          • Dark Horse
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 12-14-05
            • 13764

            #6
            Comparative research is conducted within predetermined parameters. If you want to pioneer into unknown fields in a quest for the ideal turd, you need to grow your own and hope that others will enjoy them as much as you. lol

            This may be time consuming. But hey, nothing wrong with being an inventor. I actually invented something once. The peanut butter and honey sandwich.
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            • pags11
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 08-18-05
              • 12264

              #7
              anus,

              what exactly is your purpose for joining the SBR forum?...
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              • Sam Odom
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 10-30-05
                • 58063

                #8
                Idiotic, IMHO
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                • LGBoots
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 08-10-05
                  • 742

                  #9
                  Originally posted by HeinousAnus
                  I know there is a big tendency to say Pinnacles odds are not crap so let me try to explain with an analogy.

                  Saying Pinnacles odds are not crap is like comparing two turds. Turd no 1 has no maggots in it. Turd no 2 has maggots in it.

                  The Turd Review comes along and says Turd no 1 is great compared to other Turds. It has no maggots, it doesn't smell that bad, etc. [insert long list of reasons why it isn't as bad as other turds].

                  Then someone might read the Turd Review and decide "well Turd no 1 has all these positive points therefore it is not a load of crap!"

                  All turds are crap. If Pinnacle offered 2.1/2.1 on coin tossing then they would be a decent bookie.
                  So you reckon it's wrong for books like Pinny to make profits

                  I think you are in the wrong game with silly comments like this.

                  Besides if you shop around you can get 100% books on lots of sports anyway.
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                  • jjgold
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-20-05
                    • 388179

                    #10
                    Sites like these do encourage compulsive gambling, it hurt me bad. I wonder if there is a way to legally get some money back from forums ?
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                    • Doc JS
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 09-15-06
                      • 6885

                      #11
                      Originally posted by HeinousAnus

                      Yeah it is a good place to learn about the safest places to gamble.

                      Because of this they will attract a lot of gamblers to the site and should warn about the problems of gambling. They have an opportunity to protect people from suffering. It isn't going to destroy the SBR to have a few warnings here and there.
                      That isn't SBR's job. SBR does its job very well.

                      It's GA's job to do what you're suggesting.

                      Everyone here is an adult who understands that when you wager money, you can lose that money.

                      Please take your soap box/pulpit somewhere else!!

                      Doc JS
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                      • Yoshi
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 08-29-06
                        • 548

                        #12
                        What a nonsense lol
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                        • clonecat
                          SBR MVP
                          • 08-29-05
                          • 1225

                          #13
                          And we should pull all the Miller Lite commercials because by ESPN showing those commercials, it makes me drink too much. And the McDonalds commercials make me eat too much.

                          People are responsible for their own actions. Don't worry your only 18 days away from your next welfare check.
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                          • boomer
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 11-13-06
                            • 1

                            #14
                            Because of this they will attract a lot of gamblers to the site and should warn about the problems of gambling. They have an opportunity to protect people from suffering. It isn't going to destroy the SBR to have a few warnings here and there.
                            I find it highly improbable that someone who cannot realize the risk involved and needs to be "warned about the problems of gambling", will be deterred by a few warnings. Moreover, my guess is that such a person would be suffering in life anyway, gambling or not.
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                            • JC
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 08-23-05
                              • 481

                              #15
                              I don't know where to start.

                              Problem gambling affects less than 5% of the people in the world. AGA puts the figure at 1%-2%, GA says it's 5%, so the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle. Whatever it is, it does not matter. People need to take responsibility for their own actions, addicted to gambling or not.

                              Do you see any warnings when you go to a brick and mortar casino? Generally no, if they are there, they are well hidden and overpowered by all of the invitations to play.

                              SBR does not owe anyone anything more than its mission of separating the good books from the bad.

                              As for Pinnacle's or anyone else's odds, why should they offer less than theoretical to be considered good odds by you? Do you think books are in this as a public service?

                              There are plenty of sites that advance your agenda. If this is not one of them then move on. This site has its mission and it carries it out better than any other in the field.

                              Finally, you are an idiot. I was going to try and stop myself from saying it but I can't.
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                              • Sam Odom
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 10-30-05
                                • 58063

                                #16
                                Originally posted by clonecat

                                Don't worry your only 18 days away from your next welfare check.





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                                • scottyy11
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 03-08-06
                                  • 693

                                  #17
                                  wtf anus are you not capable of looking after yourself..........do you need someone to spoon feed your dinner to you. Don't look for everyone else to take care of you
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                                  • jjgold
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 07-20-05
                                    • 388179

                                    #18
                                    I think SBR John and some of his henchmen mods do push the poster into gambling more, always asking who you like, whats the best play, who are the best books and not one mention of problem gambling. I agree here with the thread starter.
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                                    • gummo
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 09-04-06
                                      • 6297

                                      #19
                                      If I was an alcoholic I wouldn't hang out in a bar.
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                                      • Sam Odom
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 10-30-05
                                        • 58063

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by jjgold

                                        I think SBR John and some of his henchmen mods do push the poster into gambling more

                                        JJ, with the Dems in charge now you may be able to get some more a$$i$tance from the Gov't
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                                        • Sean
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 08-01-05
                                          • 985

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by HeinousAnus
                                          SBR will attract a lot of gamblers to the site and should warn about the problems of gambling. They have an opportunity to protect people from suffering. It isn't going to destroy SBR to have a few warnings here and there.
                                          We absolutely agree with you, HeinousAnus. In fact, for the past several years, the homepage of www.SportsBookReview.com has contained the following statements and links:

                                          This site contains links and informational content on online wagering services. Internet gambling is NOT legal in certain areas. Consult your local authorities prior to registering with any online wagering service. SBR does not recommend or encourage any kind of legal or illegal gambling. Statistics conclusively prove that nearly all gamblers will lose money over the long term.

                                          Please! Do not access the information contained on Sportsbook Review if you feel you might have a gambling problem. Make your next click to a group that will help you deal with your situation. Gambling addiction can seriously diminish the quality of your life.

                                          Get help, it's never too late.

                                          Gamblers Anonymous | Council on Problem Gambling | Center for Responsible Gaming
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                                          • Doc JS
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 09-15-06
                                            • 6885

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Sean
                                            We absolutely agree with you, HeinousAnus. In fact, for the past several years, the homepage of www.SportsBookReview.com has contained the following statements and links:

                                            This site contains links and informational content on online wagering services. Internet gambling is NOT legal in certain areas. Consult your local authorities prior to registering with any online wagering service. SBR does not recommend or encourage any kind of legal or illegal gambling. Statistics conclusively prove that nearly all gamblers will lose money over the long term.

                                            Please! Do not access the information contained on Sportsbook Review if you feel you might have a gambling problem. Make your next click to a group that will help you deal with your situation. Gambling addiction can seriously diminish the quality of your life.

                                            Get help, it's never too late.

                                            Gamblers Anonymous | Council on Problem Gambling | Center for Responsible Gaming
                                            Sean,

                                            I believe that just about covers it, doesn't it?

                                            Doc JS
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                                            • jjgold
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 07-20-05
                                              • 388179

                                              #23
                                              Its nice it is on the page but it is all show. I feel pushed to wager here daily and do in part attribute my very bad financial situation to the SBR website. It basically is like someone rigging your vcr with porn and then you go wack off to it.
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                                              • JoshW
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 08-10-05
                                                • 3431

                                                #24
                                                Anything fun in moderation is going to be addictive to some people. No real way to avoid that. In the past people have tried to ban anything that could be addictive, but it just doesn't work.

                                                Are you going to win gambling over the long run? Unlikely. A few who understand numbers and edges will. Most have to do it as recreation because they like action, some will like it too much and lose everything.

                                                Is it better that those who gamble play at legit books even if in the long run they will lose? Hell yes.
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                                                • bookie
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                  • 2112

                                                  #25
                                                  I find the two-turd analogy very clever and funny. I say keep posting. Every Jerusalem needs its Jeremiah. You could use the link to what Sean posted as your signature, and tirelessly urge all of us (for the sake of those of us who need it) not to be self-delusional.
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                                                  • Mudcat
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 07-21-05
                                                    • 9287

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by HeinousAnus
                                                    All turds are crap.

                                                    I am seriously considering using that for my next signature.
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                                                    • HAPPY BOY
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 08-10-05
                                                      • 7109

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                                      Its nice it is on the page but it is all show. I feel pushed to wager here daily and do in part attribute my very bad financial situation to the SBR website. It basically is like someone rigging your vcr with porn and then you go wack off to it.
                                                      JJ come on man don't over do the act. Its not selling on this thread. We know your B.s. here is to the knees. You got to be more selective in your posts or youll lose your creative edge. Your charm is making people believe your posts.
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                                                      • Santo
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-08-05
                                                        • 2957

                                                        #28
                                                        So JJ, SBR could help you out by banning you?
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                                                        • jjgold
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 07-20-05
                                                          • 388179

                                                          #29
                                                          Basically what I am saying is SBR has the highest % of compulsive gamblers due the hard core nature of the site (live lines, top flight stats, forum, top flight ratings). It is like crack cocaine.
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                                                          • Doc JS
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 09-15-06
                                                            • 6885

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by jjgold
                                                            Basically what I am saying is SBR has the highest % of compulsive gamblers due the hard core nature of the site (live lines, top flight stats, forum, top flight ratings). It is like crack cocaine.
                                                            crystal meth would be a better analogy. It's way more addictive than crack.

                                                            Doc JS
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                                                            • jjgold
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 07-20-05
                                                              • 388179

                                                              #31
                                                              Thanks Doc
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                                                              • RickySteve
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 01-31-06
                                                                • 3415

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Doc JS
                                                                crystal meth would be a better analogy. It's way more addictive than crack.

                                                                Doc JS
                                                                Evidence please.
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                                                                • SBR_John
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 07-12-05
                                                                  • 16471

                                                                  #33
                                                                  We are certainly willing to do more. If you have any suggestions, specific suggestions, please post them.

                                                                  I would like to see the industry as a whole put clear warnings on their sites that warn folks that this is a dangerous form of entertainment.

                                                                  The statement on SBR is not for show. It provides evidence through the link to the study on gambling just how destructive gambling can be. It then recommends getting help and lastly provides direct links to all of the major help organizations.

                                                                  Please! Do not access the information contained on Sportsbook Review if you feel you might have a gambling problem. Make your next click to a group that will help you deal with your situation. Gambling addiction can seriously diminish the quality of your life.
                                                                  Get help, it's never too late.

                                                                  Gamblers Anonymous | Council on Problem Gambling | Center for Responsible Gaming
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                                                                  • thezbar
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 08-29-06
                                                                    • 6422

                                                                    #34
                                                                    We all have free will. If this site is a bad influence,choose not to enter.Its that simple.SBR is not responsible for our actions
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                                                                    • pags11
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 08-18-05
                                                                      • 12264

                                                                      #35
                                                                      they don't close down golf courses because some guys forget about their jobs and families and golf too much...there are definitely people with problems, but SBR benefits a great deal of us...
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