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  • Sam Odom
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    • 10-30-05
    • 58063

    #1
    Economy : Another Bust before years end ?
    The U.S. economy expanded less than forecast in the second quarter after a weaker start to the year than previously estimated as companies slimmed down inventories and remained wary of investing amid shaky global demand.


  • d2bets
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    • 08-10-05
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    #2
    Originally posted by Sam Odom
    The U.S. economy expanded less than forecast in the second quarter after a weaker start to the year than previously estimated as companies slimmed down inventories and remained wary of investing amid shaky global demand.


    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...second-quarter
    What do you mean by another? Going on 7 years of expansion now. Expect a recession within the next 3-5 years. Sooner if Trump is elected.
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    • Sam Odom
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 10-30-05
      • 58063

      #3
      leave it to butt hurt d2b to make this 'political'
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      • MoMoneyMoVaughn
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        • 05-08-14
        • 14988

        #4
        Sammy, no.

        Elon Musk will save America.
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        • jjgold
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          • 07-20-05
          • 388179

          #5
          dead economy for next 5 years
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          • rkelly110
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            • 10-05-09
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            #6
            Probably not at years end, but definitely by June. All that will depend if we are at or going to war.

            War is always bad for economies and the recessions that follow.

            If we falter, the world most definitely will follow.

            Hard not to make this political. Economies love Dem policies. With a Repub controlled congress and a Repub pres,
            I have to say, we will be fukked.
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            • jjgold
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              • 07-20-05
              • 388179

              #7
              stock with gold
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              • ByeShea
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                • 06-30-08
                • 8113

                #8
                Originally posted by rkelly110

                Hard not to make this political. Economies love Dem policies.
                Unprecedented levels of non-participation in the labor force, steadily building through 7 1/2 years of Democrat economy.

                Everything is sunny in Philadelphia.
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                • d2bets
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                  • 08-10-05
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Sam Odom
                  leave it to butt hurt d2b to make this 'political'
                  I didn't make it political. That's my prediction and the election necessarily ties in to that to some extent.
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                  • Sam Odom
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 10-30-05
                    • 58063

                    #10
                    Originally posted by d2bets

                    Sooner if Trump is elected.
                    Originally posted by d2bets

                    I didn't make it political.

                    No recession/depression in next 3 yrs if Clinton is elected ???
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                    • DwightShrute
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-17-09
                      • 103410

                      #11
                      Originally posted by d2bets
                      What do you mean by another? Going on 7 years of expansion now. Expect a recession within the next 3-5 years. Sooner if Trump is elected.
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                      • GUMMO77
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                        • 08-23-10
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                        #12
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                        • d2bets
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                          • 08-10-05
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Sam Odom
                          No recession/depression in next 3 yrs if Clinton is elected ???
                          Perhaps. I said 3-5 years regardless. Standard run-of-the-mill bull market slowdown, not a depression.

                          If Trump is elected, anything is possible. And by anything, I mean anything bad.
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                          • grease lightnin
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                            • 10-01-12
                            • 16015

                            #14
                            Watch... it will be revised up soon.
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                            • TheSideBet
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                              • 08-05-15
                              • 2301

                              #15
                              I don't see the overall economy improving but I guess it depends on what area you work in as to how personally you'll be affected, pay and security wise.
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                              • Brock Landers
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 06-30-08
                                • 45359

                                #16
                                It's like this...and proven

                                Democrats = Booming economy

                                Republicans = recession, massive drawbacks

                                See last 2 Republican presidents
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                                • JoeyBagels
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 03-10-13
                                  • 784

                                  #17
                                  All is well.
                                  Buy stocks.
                                  I believe in America.
                                  Forum guys think they know what's going on.

                                  Saved you some time Opie.
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                                  • irish1
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                                    • 12-25-12
                                    • 4837

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                    The U.S. economy expanded less than forecast in the second quarter after a weaker start to the year than previously estimated as companies slimmed down inventories and remained wary of investing amid shaky global demand.


                                    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...second-quarter
                                    Economy is political, no way around it. R's and D's who know little about economics continue to pass legislation that messes up the economy. Bad trade agreements, horrible immigration system, borrowing money to lend money and then forgiving the loan to these foreign countries. 150 billion to Iran, 9 billion to Pakistan and so on and so on. When you don't control your own money economy is always a crap shoot. Janet Yellen took over for Bernanke and decides how much money to print and when to raise or lower interest rates. Who is her boss? The Board of Governors you say, who do they answer to? The Central banking system is some maze. No one knows shitt about economics and thats the way they want it. Their is no one in this SBR who is qualified to have a serious discussion about economics. Buy your stocks and collect your dividends or buy stocks that you can buy and sell for quick hits either way you can only hope that the Wall Street Gods don't pull the plug and screw you. As history shows you they do periodically. They are toying with you!!
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                                    • jjgold
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                                      • 07-20-05
                                      • 388179

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                      It's like this...and proven

                                      Democrats = Booming economy

                                      Republicans = recession, massive drawbacks

                                      See last 2 Republican presidents
                                      There is no booming economy

                                      More poor people than ever before

                                      Wages extremely low
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                                      • chico2663
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                                        • 09-02-10
                                        • 36915

                                        #20
                                        That money we gave iran has never been delivered. In 2012 we passed legislation that didn't allow iran to deal in dollars. India and other countries refuse to pay them money because afraid of sanctions by us. I read it in may 18 newsweek.http://www.newsweek.com/2016/05/27/w...ng-460939.htmlal on sanctions relief comes amid rising criticism from Tehran




                                        ENLARGE
                                        Iran Supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei speaking to a crowd during a ceremony in March. PHOTO: IRANIAN SUPREME LEADER WEBSITE/EUROPEAN PRESSPHOTO AGENCY



                                        By JAY SOLOMON

                                        Updated April 1, 2016 12:01 a.m. ET111 COMMENTS

                                        WASHINGTON—The Obama administration is preparing to give Iran limited access to U.S. dollars as part of looser sanctions on Tehran, according to congressional staff members and a former American official briefed on the plans.
                                        The proposed move comes amid rising Iranian criticism that the landmark nuclear agreement reached last year between global powers and Tehran hasn’t provided the country with sufficient economic benefits.
                                        Executives at European and Asian banks have said in recent interviews that they remain reluctant to conduct any financial transactions with Iran due to fears they might run afoul of the U.S. Treasury and its regulations that ban dollar dealings with Iranian firms. Most major international trade, particularly in oil and gas, is conducted in U.S. dollars.
                                        The Treasury is considering how to issue licenses to offshore dollar clearing houses for specific Iranian financial institutions, an approach that wouldn’t require the involvement of American banks, according to the congressional officials. The clearing houses, likely involving select foreign banks, would conduct the dollar transactions instead, shielding the U.S. financial system from any direct contact with Iran, these officials said.
                                        “They are looking at a couple mechanisms to allow for this dollar trade, stopping short of normalizing banking transactions,” said a congressional banking official briefed by the administration on its plans, which haven’t been finalized.


                                        Treasury action on Iran’s access to the dollar wouldn’t require congressional approval.
                                        American law still prohibits U.S. and foreign banks from dealing in dollars with Iran, despite the July nuclear agreement. The Treasury Department designates Iran’s entire financial system as a “primary money laundering concern” due to Tehran’s nuclear and missile programs and support for international terrorist groups, such as Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in the Palestinian territories.
                                        The U.S. Treasury and State departments declined to comment Thursday on preparations to allow Iran limited access to dollars.



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                                        • slambam
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                                          • 02-07-10
                                          • 1653

                                          #21
                                          Economy is screwed until the next boom imo. I don't see anything like the tech boom coming for an awful long time. The best is past this country, even Trump can't make America great again. The last decade will be the new normal.
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                                          • jjgold
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                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388179

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by slambam
                                            economy is screwed until the next boom imo. I don't see anything like the tech boom coming for an awful long time. The best is past this country, even trump can't make america great again. The last decade will be the new normal.

                                            bang
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                                            • dfish
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                                              • 12-17-10
                                              • 2730

                                              #23
                                              Going long on tourniquets & carbon credits. Nice job cuckholds
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                                              • d2bets
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                                                • 08-10-05
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by slambam
                                                Economy is screwed until the next boom imo. I don't see anything like the tech boom coming for an awful long time. The best is past this country, even Trump can't make America great again. The last decade will be the new normal.
                                                Don't need a boom. There is all sorts of opportunity for smart entreprenurial people.
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                                                • Waterstpub87
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                                                  • 09-09-09
                                                  • 4108

                                                  #25
                                                  Yield Curve not inverted, so that says that recession is not imminent. I don't know what the catalyst could be to cause a massive 2008 like crash. Banks safer, less shitty mortgages, tech not crazily over bought.

                                                  As much as you would like to blame the democrats, labor participation rate no one's fault except old age and technology. Understates unemployment but, whatever. By the same token, the president doesn't control the economy.
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                                                  • d2bets
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                                                    • 08-10-05
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Waterstpub87
                                                    Yield Curve not inverted, so that says that recession is not imminent. I don't know what the catalyst could be to cause a massive 2008 like crash. Banks safer, less shitty mortgages, tech not crazily over bought.

                                                    As much as you would like to blame the democrats, labor participation rate no one's fault except old age and technology. Understates unemployment but, whatever. By the same token, the president doesn't control the economy.
                                                    Wow. Someone here with an actual rational assessment.
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                                                    • TheMoneyShot
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                                                      • 02-14-07
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                                                      #27
                                                      Booming economy?

                                                      More fukking people on welfare than ever before.
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                                                      • King Mayan
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 09-22-10
                                                        • 21326

                                                        #28
                                                        Clintons have a proven record

                                                        Not like that bankrupt gold spoon orangutan
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                                                        • rkelly110
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                                                          • 10-05-09
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                                                          #29
                                                          Meanwhile, the economy added 179k more jobs for the month of July. Better than projected.
                                                          Dow holding steady with a new record. Wonder how many Dow records the last 7 1/2 years?
                                                          Gas still way down.

                                                          How long this will last will depend on YOU! Vote out the obstructionist lazy ass that is presently residing.
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                                                          • dante1
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                                                            • 10-31-05
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by MoMoneyMoVaughn
                                                            Sammy, no.

                                                            Elon Musk will save America.

                                                            lol, maybe!
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                                                            • dante1
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                                                              • 10-31-05
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by slambam
                                                              Economy is screwed until the next boom imo. I don't see anything like the tech boom coming for an awful long time. The best is past this country, even Trump can't make America great again. The last decade will be the new normal.

                                                              This sounds rational, but i would never bet against the American people. Worst recession since the great depression but the USA responded better than any other country in the world. I don't bet against American ingenuity and smarts.
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                                                              • jjgold
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 07-20-05
                                                                • 388179

                                                                #32
                                                                no end in site

                                                                Tech has replaced too many jobs
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                                                                • goduke
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                                                                  • 02-17-10
                                                                  • 11580

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I wouldn't take any sbr posters opinion on the economy status of the country
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                                                                  • GunShard
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                                                                    • 03-05-10
                                                                    • 10031

                                                                    #34
                                                                    The stock market could crash like it did back in 2008.
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                                                                    • Russian Rocket
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                                                                      • 09-02-12
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by dante1
                                                                      This sounds rational, but i would never bet against the American people. Worst recession since the great depression but the USA responded better than any other country in the world. I don't bet against American ingenuity and smarts money printing press.
                                                                      Fixed a little typo for ya!
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