Democratic Convention Live Thread

[Dr.Gonzo]

This is what you get when everyone gets a trophy. Experiencing losing is what life is all about. Getting told no,
is what life is all about. Look at those faces, I'll bet they were never told no or had their asses smacked.

This is Bernie's fault. Spewing all this free shit. The protesters against Hillary made their own beds when they took
out loans with the govt to go to school. Why should anyone bail out what you are responsible for?

Bernie supporters lost. Either get over it or come together and join Hillary. Fukking entitled brats.

I despise them because they're a bunch of commies but they were screwed by the DNC and betrayed by Sanders, they have a legitimate gripe in that regard.

Ron Paul also got screwed in similar circumstances by the RNC but he didn't betray his supporters, sell out and endorse Romney like a groveling serf.

[pilebuck13]

Don't really care either way but how can a guy sit there and say this is what democracy is all about when his campaign was robbed of a fair chance at the highest levels in his own party lmao I mean come on and don't come back at me with some republicans did this shit I really don't care

[Dr.Gonzo]

Don't really care either way but how can a guy sit there and say this is what democracy is all about when his campaign was robbed of a fair chance at the highest levels in his own party lmao I mean come on and don't come back at me with some republicans did this shit I really don't care

It's not like he's playing the long game and planning another run post Hillary given he's on deaths door.

Sanders sold out for his 30 pieces of silver, it was obvious he would do this from the start though.

[thetrinity]

Sanders played his sheep for his own political good. His henchwoman Liz Warren sat there and applauded it. He was Trump's best chance and now it's over.

[ByeShea]

It's not like he's playing the long game and planning another run post Hillary given he's on deaths door.

Sanders sold out for his 30 pieces of silver, it was obvious he would do this from the start though.

He lost a lot of credibility when he said Clinton/Kaine was "gonna break up the banks". No they're not, Bernie got bought.

Wall St. is giving Trump nothing and are full on invested in Hillary, meaning Goldman, JP Morgan, BkofAma, Citi. They invested in Obama and were treated royally. Nothing changes that with Hillary. Not even the legalize pot crowd thinks she's gonna get aggressive with the banks. What a joke.

[lakerboy]

Sanders is a complete piece of shit. I would expec nothing less from him considering his background.

[brooks85]

Sanders played his sheep for his own political good. His henchwoman Liz Warren sat there and applauded it. He was Trump's best chance and now it's over.

hillary clinton on a debate stage disagrees. Election is over for her sept 26.












Last night was a joke as usual. I heard "viva la revolucion" in the audience and the illegal alien-supporting line "the border crossed us" on stage. It would take a real fool like a progressive to be blind as they support someone else taking over their country.


It was comical watching bernie prove that he is nothing more than a politician. It must have been tough to watch for the khicks' of the world who believe in fairy-tale legislation.




Also, I got a good laugh when bernie said hillary was going to break up the big banks.






time for Dimon to get a new puppet

[rkelly110]

I despise them because they're a bunch of commies but they were screwed by the DNC and betrayed by Sanders, they have a legitimate gripe in that regard.

Ron Paul also got screwed in similar circumstances by the RNC but he didn't betray his supporters, sell out and endorse Romney like a groveling serf.

In order to have Bernie's endorsement, Hillary had to agree and campaign for some of Bernie's policies. If she refused, he probably would not have endorsed.

Imagine that, partisanship.

[brooks85]

In order to have Bernie's endorsement, Hillary had to agree and campaign for some of Bernie's policies. If she refused, he probably would not have endorsed.

Imagine that, partisanship.

must be nice going through life with the intellect of a child. You must still get excited for Christmas and the idea of a fat white guy flying through the air to bring you presents. You obviously don't spend much time actually thinking about what you're told or what you see.

[ACoochy]

He lost a lot of credibility when he said Clinton/Kaine was "gonna break up the banks". No they're not, Bernie got bought.

Wall St. is giving Trump nothing and are full on invested in Hillary, meaning Goldman, JP Morgan, BkofAma, Citi. They invested in Obama and were treated royally. Nothing changes that with Hillary. Not even the legalize pot crowd thinks she's gonna get aggressive with the banks. What a joke.

Wasn't Trump's whole schtick about being the candidate that couldn't be bought??

If so then why would he need wall st money to begin with??

[thetrinity]

hillary clinton on a debate stage disagrees. Election is over for her sept 26.












Last night was a joke as usual. I heard "viva la revolucion" in the audience and the illegal alien-supporting line "the border crossed us" on stage. It would take a real fool like a progressive to be blind as they support someone else taking over their country.


It was comical watching bernie prove that is nothing more than a politician. It must have been tough to watch for the khicks' of the world who believe in fairy-tale legislation.




Also, I got a good laugh when bernie said hillary was going to break up the big banks.






time for Dimon to get a new puppet

Debates only matter to undecided voters. Trump needed this clowns votes, he ain't gonna get them.

[thetrinity]

Sanders is a complete piece of shit. I would expec nothing less from him considering his background.

He really is a disgrace. He had a perfect excuse to throw that hag under the bus with the emails and he still says vote for her while he spews a bunch of policies she would never go for. Only in America.

[brooks85]

Debates only matter to undecided voters. Trump needed this clowns votes, he ain't gonna get them.

exactly and considering there are always millions it is going to be bad for hillary. Can't wait to watch her burn and officially begin the end of her candidacy since there was no real process to get Hillary the nomination, it was already decided in '08.

[thetrinity]

exactly and considering there are always millions it is going to be bad for hillary. Can't wait to watch her burn and officially begin the end of her candidacy since there was no real process to get Hillary the nomination, it was already decided in '08.

I said before the whole thing started Trump had 2 realistic chances. Bernie supporters or an absolute massacre in the debates. That was his 2 best opportunities. One went by the wayside in a huge way last night. Forgive me for being skeptical at this point.

[Mac4Lyfe]

the rig... The first real glass to drop was creating a fiat currency and abolishing the gold standard, do you think this was something set " for the people by the people " ... People are sick of the establishment, people without allegiance to any country having influence and promoting, lobbying certain policies that has slowly but surely turned us into puddy that they regulate.. How long have the banks been at 0% interest rates now lol...

America is tired of ALL the corrupt politicians ... Fire all of them, passing bills not even reading them anymore. Place is on fire, they want someone to put it out and rebuild.

Which is what I've been saying for years. Get rid of the 2 party system because neither one represent you or I. The people have no real voice.

[brooks85]

I said before the whole thing started Trump had 2 realistic chances. Bernie supporters or an absolute massacre in the debates. That was his 2 best opportunities. One went by the wayside in a huge way last night. Forgive me for being skeptical at this point.

well, then you're on point. Just like I've been saying, it doesn't matter who she is going against, hillary clinton is going to get destroyed 1v1. She wasn't going to win this election once the debates arrived. She is a robot on stage and nothing but a liability when she talks/thinks freely. It will not end well for her and that doesn't even factor in her lies she is going to get destroyed on.


lol just the other day she told the nation comey didn't call her careless... I hope we hear that one again in the debates.

[ByeShea]

Debates only matter to undecided voters. Trump needed this clowns votes, he ain't gonna get them.

Were you under the impression that Sanders was going to go back on his endorsement? Everyone knew he was going to give the exact speech he gave last night.

At no point does Trump's path to the White House rely on capturing Sanders' supporters votes. How Sanders helps Trump (and greatly) is that this division dampens Hillary's turn out the vote.

That she is a terrible candidate is Trump's ace card. She is nothing but a power broker and has been brutally exposed.

[thetrinity]

Were you under the impression that Sanders was going to go back on his endorsement? Everyone knew he was going to give the exact speech he gave last night.

At no point does Trump's path to the White House rely on capturing Sanders' supporters votes. How Sanders helps Trump (and greatly) is that this division dampens Hillary's turn out the vote.

That she is a terrible candidate is Trump's ace card. She is nothing but a power broker and has been brutally exposed.

I honestly don't know what to expect from that guy. He's a senile old fool. I thought it was somewhat plausible that with all the bullshit that went against him he wouldnt stand up there and give Hillary his complete support. Cruz basically ended any chance of ever being President during the RNC, and Bernie would have had little to lose by doing it since he'll be dead in 8 years anyways. He not only towed the line, but said penetrate you Trump while he was doing it.

Just out from CNN 2/3rds of Bernie's sheep will vote Clinton, and 0 will vote for Donald.

[jjgold]

day 2

GO

[Itsamazing777]

I honestly don't know what to expect from that guy. He's a senile old fool. I thought it was somewhat plausible that with all the bullshit that went against him he wouldnt stand up there and give Hillary his complete support. Cruz basically ended any chance of ever being President during the RNC, and Bernie would have had little to lose by doing it since he'll be dead in 8 years anyways. He not only towed the line, but said penetrate you Trump while he was doing it.

Just out from CNN 2/3rds of Bernie's sheep will vote Clinton, and 0 will vote for Donald.

42 percent independant for trump 28 for shillary... its of no concern

[blackHIPPY]

imagine being heavily invested on either side of this shit show

[blackHIPPY]

i will michelle obama was running for president, fantastic speech

[rkelly110]

must be nice going through life with the intellect of a child. You must still get excited for Christmas and the idea of a fat white guy flying through the air to bring you presents. You obviously don't spend much time actually thinking about what you're told or what you see.

I AM the fat white guy who makes his own presents unlike a cubicle state worker fukking off at work.

[khicks26]

From the vid.

Lets not get into libertarian ideology, which is beautiful. But its false. We have to restrain all sources of power. That's the reason for labor unions, to block the power of capital.

[ACoochy]

imagine being heavily invested on either side of this shit show

Republican clowns whinging that their man is being locked out of big wall st money for his diminutive campaign yet he made his campaign around being the guy who can't be bought...

Yeah, well no shit Trump. Wall St don't want none of what you're selling

[khicks26]

I despise them because they're a bunch of commies but they were screwed by the DNC and betrayed by Sanders, they have a legitimate gripe in that regard.

Ron Paul also got screwed in similar circumstances by the RNC but he didn't betray his supporters, sell out and endorse Romney like a groveling serf.

There was no crazy fuker like Trump in that election. You can't compare the two.

[ACoochy]

i will michelle obama was running for president, fantastic speech

For sure.

Melania "is she even legal" Trump couldn't even shine Michelle's shoes on almost every level...

[itchypickle]

Hate too powerful a word but it's pretty much known that he looks unfavorably upon anything that isn't white and male..mm

He hates illegals, terrorists murderers and other criminals as well as people who want to get money for no work....I'd say that's called common sense

[khicks26]

hillary clinton on a debate stage disagrees. Election is over for her sept 26.












Last night was a joke as usual. I heard "viva la revolucion" in the audience and the illegal alien-supporting line "the border crossed us" on stage. It would take a real fool like a progressive to be blind as they support someone else taking over their country.


It was comical watching bernie prove that he is nothing more than a politician. It must have been tough to watch for the khicks' of the world who believe in fairy-tale legislation.




Also, I got a good laugh when bernie said hillary was going to break up the big banks.






time for Dimon to get a new puppet

Well I'm glad to see that you finally admit that the Rich, Special Interest, Banks, & Corporations control the government. The same thing Sanders has been telling you for the last 12 months.

Or as soon as it don't fit your agenda, you will go back to denying this claim. Two Face.

Corporations are the product of deregulation, that's way the banks are to big to fail. You can't have it both ways.

[khicks26]

I AM the fat white guy who makes his own presents unlike a cubicle state worker fukking off at work.

Brooks gets owned. What a clown.

[stealthyburrito]

See it's very hard discussing issues when you throw things out without understanding history. Our forefathers had the foresight to separate powers in the government. The idea of checks and balances was no less important in declaring war than other government functions. Our forefathers gave the power to declare war to the legislative rather than the executive brand. They did this EXPLICITLY to make it more difficult to get into war. The President as commander in chief of the armed forces, would be responsible for conducting BUT NOT DECLARING WAR. Congress which had the power to declare war also had to raise the funds to pay for it.

The separation of powers with respect to war became blurred with the Vietnam war. That war was never a war declared by congress. So how did we send so many people and spend so much money on a war that was never declared by Congress??? Well, when in 64, N Vietnamese patrol boats fired on a US Destroyer in the Gulf of Tonkin, Pres Johnson ordered the bombing of N Vietnam. The Congress supported the president unanimously with the Gulf of Tonkin resolution which authorized "all necessary measures" to repel any attack against the US. This is what escalated that conflict, even though members of Congress didn't realize what the resolution really meant. Eventually members of Congress wanted to blame the war on the power of the executive branch. In 1973 they passed the War Powers Resolution which limited the ability of the president to commit US forces overseas.

So you see, since then, the President CANNOT effectively introduce US forces without congressional approval. Regarding Iraq...

The Iraq Resolution (formally the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002, Pub.L. 107–243, 116 Stat. 1498, enacted October 16, 2002, H.J.Res. 114) was a joint resolution passed by the United States Congress in October 2002 as Public Law No: 107-243, authorizing military action.

So to answer your question. No the president cannot effect your life by themselves. It takes congress, which by the way approved Obama care. Whether you like it or not Obama Care was approved by both houses even though the Dems slipped in with the reconciliation rule.

Stop blaming the president. It's the 2 parties that's the problem not the president. We have zero control over these parties because they only do what in the interest of their special interest groups. Until we get rid of both parties and command our own without any BS collusion, the people will never, ever truly be heard.

Lol don't give me that checks and balances nonsense it's quite obvious that system has loopholes, aka in the form of executive orders. The use of executive orders has increased exponentially since the early days of our republic. Don't think for a second that the president goes to our Congress for every dark ops mission they conduct throughout the shitholes that we call nation states. Our forefathers left a lot of things vague so the Constitution could remain fluid. No where does it say the supreme Court has the ability to determine whether something is constitutional or not when brought to them. You know who determined that? The supreme Court, via their interpretation of the Constitution. Congress is designed as a gatekeeper, once a policy get through them it's up to the executive branch through its web of bureaucratic establishment to carry out these actions. The executive branch I'd far and away the most powerful arm of our government. Special interests has corrupted our system no doubt, our forefathers could not imagine how specialized things would get I'll grant you that. But to say the president is a powerless puppet is tinfoil hat nonsense. I will not address this any further.

[chico2663]

Originally Posted by rkelly110
I AM the fat white guy who makes his own presents unlike a cubicle state worker fukking off at work.



Brooks gets owned. What a clown.
Originally Posted by rkelly110
I AM the fat white guy who makes his own presents unlike a cubicle state worker fukking off at work.



Brooks gets owned. What a clown.
Originally Posted by rkelly110
I AM the fat white guy who makes his own presents unlike a cubicle state worker fukking off at work.



Brooks gets owned. What a clown.
what is new. He is like that punch drunk fighter that has to gone on a sabbatical every month ago because of the brain damage

[khicks26]

All the Trump clowns ripping on Sanders need to STFU. What the hell is the guy suppose to do, back Trump. Just because you didn't get what you want Sanders is a sell out?

No, Trump is an asshole. If he wants Sanders voters quit being a narcissistic, Neo-fascist, authoritarian fuk. Sanders voters are not stupid enough to fall for his demagoguery.

You want Sanders voters commit to his policies, & mean it. Trump has only his self to blame for being a flawed candidate, quit blaming Sanders for his short comings. Piss Off

[lakerboy]

Sanders sold him selfout. Trump aside sanders has no pride. Weak ass socialist rat fuk.

[MoneyLineDawg]

No he's not supposed to back Trump but to just sit there and take it after what came out is laughable

Some of Bernie's supporters have balls apparently he doesnt