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  • 15805
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    #71
    Viewing Battleground counties identified by Axiom Strategies, race looks like a Trump landslide
    State
    Clinton
    Trump Spread
    Clinton
    Trump Spread
    Florida Hillsborough County 39% 41% Trump +2 40% 43% Trump +3
    Colorado Jefferson County 40% 36% Clinton +4 39% 40% Trump +1
    North Carolina Watauga County 39% 43% Trump +4 39% 46% Trump +7
    Ohio Sandusky County 34% 39% Trump +5 31% 42% Trump +11
    Pennsylvania Luzerne County 34% 51% Trump +17 32% 55% Trump +23
    Virginia Loudoun County 45% 37% Clinton +8 44% 41% Clinton +3
    Nevada Washoe County 34% 46% Trump +12 36% 48% Trump +1
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    • DwightShrute
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      • 01-17-09
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      #72
      Originally posted by Greget
      No big deal you just lied, but ok.

      Unemployment is 4 point 9 f ucking percent. Obama and Democrats have done a hell of a job. Wages are a separate issue and decisions on wages are made in corporate board rooms, unless you agree the Federal government should raise minimum wage, in which case welcome to the Democratic Party.


      The first time ever the government is counting those that have given up looking for work as employed. They do this because they know a certain number of people will buy it. More people out of work now since 1978. Do the math. 4.9% is impossible.
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      • d2bets
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        #73
        Originally posted by DwightShrute


        The first time ever the government is counting those that have given up looking for work as employed. They do this because they know a certain number of people will buy it. More people out of work now since 1978. Do the math. 4.9% is impossible.
        This includes all the baby boomers retiring. Are you dumb or just a liar?
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        • DwightShrute
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          #74
          Originally posted by d2bets
          This includes all the baby boomers retiring. Are you dumb or just a liar?
          not all baby boomer have retired. Large numbers of people retired annually. It will happen next year as well. It happened before. Government never counted those who have given up finding jobs, who want to work, as employed before.

          Neither to your last question. Try asking yourself actually.

          I am talking offers of the Brooklyn Bridge. I own it. You get first crack. Give me what you considered a fair price and its yours. I will PM you my paypal account.
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          • d2bets
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            #75
            Originally posted by DwightShrute
            not all baby boomer have retired. Large numbers of people retired annually. Neither to your last question. Try asking yourself actually.
            Larger number of people not working is meaningless. There are: a. more people; b. people living longer; c. more older people. On and on. What matters is whether employable people who want to work can find work. The resounding answer is yes.
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            • Greget
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              #76
              Originally posted by DwightShrute


              The first time ever the government is counting those that have given up looking for work as employed. They do this because they know a certain number of people will buy it. More people out of work now since 1978. Do the math. 4.9% is impossible.
              The way they calculate unemployment hasn't changed. The only thing that has changed is we have a black President.
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              • Greget
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                #77
                Originally posted by DwightShrute
                not all baby boomer have retired. Large numbers of people retired annually. It will happen next year as well. It happened before. Government never counted those who have given up finding jobs, who want to work, as employed before.

                Neither to your last question. Try asking yourself actually.

                I am talking offers of the Brooklyn Bridge. I own it. You get first crack. Give me what you considered a fair price and its yours. I will PM you my paypal account.
                Your insane psychobabble conspiracy theory that the way the government calculates employment has not been validated, therefore I render your entire post invalid. Try again.
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                • DwightShrute
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                  #78
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                  • Greget
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                    #79
                    Donald Trump repeats Pants on Fire claim that unemployment rate could be 42 percent





                    Fact checkers must have a liberal bias too huh Dwight?

                    Get wrecked.
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                    • Deuce
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                      #80
                      Slimey snake fukks running the DNC. Dismal use of power. Railroading Bernie, firing men because they're men, bribes, etc. Just deplorable behavior. How could you argue or endorse it?
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                      • khicks26
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                        #81
                        Even left wing economist say the unemployment numbers are fudged. The ones touting the 5% are on the neoliberal pay role. The real number is 14% to 20%. Blacks just out of high school hits 50%

                        Truth is that those not in the top 10% have never recovered from the 08 crash, & are worth less today than before the crash. Nothing was ever fixed & we will have another one.

                        Now I'm not saying that a guy like Trump is what the country needs, in fact I think he will make it far worse (sorry Dwight) But Dwight is right about the unemployment number being more than 5%.

                        Stop listening to guys like Krugman, try Michael Hudson, Richard Wolff, or even Max Kaiser.
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                        • Greget
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                          #82
                          Originally posted by Deuce
                          Slimey snake fukks running the DNC. Dismal use of power. Railroading Bernie, firing men because they're men, bribes, etc. Just deplorable behavior. How could you argue or endorse it?
                          Because you haven't proven a single thing or made a single meaningful insight. Just washed up rhetoric from Trump's ass to your mouth.

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                          • khicks26
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                            #83
                            Originally posted by Greget
                            Donald Trump repeats Pants on Fire claim that unemployment rate could be 42 percent





                            Fact checkers must have a liberal bias too huh Dwight?

                            Get wrecked.
                            Yes, now that's a BS number. Fear mongering number.
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                            • DwightShrute
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                              #84
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                              • Deuce
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                                #85
                                Originally posted by Greget
                                Because you haven't proven a single thing or made a single meaningful insight. Just washed up rhetoric from Trump's ass to your mouth.

                                Typical liberal debate narrative. Open your eyes you sheep, do you see anyone condemning the leaks? It's right in front of your fukkin eyes. I have disavowed trump many times. Get off your knees and wipe your chin of Killary's semen.
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                                • 15805
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                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by d2bets
                                  Rubio was going to win until Christie destroyed him. a If that moment doesn't hppen, he's the nominee. Hard to predict stuff like that.
                                  You have a poor memory. In the New Hampshire primary Christie knocked him down but not out. That was 2/9.
                                  Rubio did make comeback a nice speech to his supporters he revealed that he let them down in the debate before NH
                                  & promised that would not happen again and leading up to SC Trump lead diminished from 15 to 2,

                                  Rubio had momentum so everyone thought. Afterall he had the 3 highest elected officials in SC campaigning with him,
                                  the RAINBOW COALITION of Tim Scott, Lindsay Graham & Nikki Haley

                                  Low & behold Trump won by 10 pts and from then on down Rubio's fortunes tende downward. SC was the KO blow
                                  not Christie's bursting Rubio's bubble before NH.

                                  In the polls since Trump announced there were only 4 who ever lead in the polls. Carson briefly, Cruz briefly,
                                  Bush briefly at the beginning, Trump lead almost 95% of the polls.

                                  In the Sportsbooks the 3 who lead were Bush at the onset, Rubio really for quite a while & Trump for the
                                  majority of time.

                                  The books had Rubio leading right up to the SC primary, like all the pundits they didn't believe the polls
                                  frankly I was scared myself. They all believed TRUMP would at some point in time lose favor & he didn't.

                                  To say 'If the Christie moment doesn't hppen, he's the nominee.' is juvenile. Even after that he was still leading
                                  at 5Dimes & the rest of the major books. What finally did him in was his 'Little hands stuff' & 'Trump won't make
                                  America Great he'll make America Orange' & other attempted snubs before South Carolina, he went off the
                                  reservation.
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                                  • d2bets
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                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by 15805
                                    You have a poor memory. In the New Hampshire primary Christie knocked him down but not out. That was 2/9.
                                    Rubio did make comeback a nice speech to his supporters he revealed that he let them down in the debate before NH
                                    & promised that would not happen again and leading up to SC Trump lead diminished from 15 to 2,

                                    Rubio had momentum so everyone thought. Afterall he had the 3 highest elected officials in SC campaigning with him,
                                    the RAINBOW COALITION of Tim Scott, Lindsay Graham & Nikki Haley

                                    Low & behold Trump won by 10 pts and from then on down Rubio's fortunes tende downward. SC was the KO blow
                                    not Christie's bursting Rubio's bubble before NH.

                                    In the polls since Trump announced there were only 4 who ever lead in the polls. Carson briefly, Cruz briefly,
                                    Bush briefly at the beginning, Trump lead almost 95% of the polls.

                                    In the Sportsbooks the 3 who lead were Bush at the onset, Rubio really for quite a while & Trump for the
                                    majority of time.

                                    The books had Rubio leading right up to the SC primary, like all the pundits they didn't believe the polls
                                    frankly I was scared myself. They all believed TRUMP would at some point in time lose favor & he didn't.

                                    To say 'If the Christie moment doesn't hppen, he's the nominee.' is juvenile. Even after that he was still leading
                                    at 5Dimes & the rest of the major books. What finally did him in was his 'Little hands stuff' & 'Trump won't make
                                    America Great he'll make America Orange' & other attempted snubs before South Carolina, he went off the
                                    reservation.
                                    I have a perfect memory. Trump tried to mock Rubio's performance in Iowa, but Rubio had a huge unexpected night in Iowa. He was starting to rise in NH. He had the momentum. And, if you recall, after Iowa and before that debate, he became the odds-on favorite. He was up to 60% to win going into that debate. Fact. He got humiliated and he dropped precipitously in NH. Sure, he then tried to rally, but it was too late. He was knocked off his game. Of course I can't say for sure that he'd have won but for that debate, but it is quite possible. Maybe something else would have derailed him. But that debate was the moment that his rising campaign imploded. It's always hard to imagine an alternate reality, but that debate changed everything. And Trump knew it. He still owes Christie. If Trump is elected, Christie names his job.
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                                    • chico2663
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                                      #88
                                      I think rubio started going down when the gay bath house rumors started
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                                      • 15805
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                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by d2bets
                                        I have a perfect memory. Trump tried to mock Rubio's performance in Iowa, but Rubio had a huge unexpected night in Iowa. He was starting to rise in NH. He had the momentum. And, if you recall, after Iowa and before that debate, he became the odds-on favorite. He was up to 60% to win going into that debate. Fact. He got humiliated and he dropped precipitously in NH. Sure, he then tried to rally, but it was too late. He was knocked off his game. Of course I can't say for sure that he'd have won but for that debate, but it is quite possible. Maybe something else would have derailed him. But that debate was the moment that his rising campaign imploded. It's always hard to imagine an alternate reality, but that debate changed everything. And Trump knew it. He still owes Christie. If Trump is elected, Christie names his job.
                                        Wrong again! Christie dropped out shortly after his knockdown of Rubio & thank goodness almost immediately he
                                        endorsed Trump and that was huge agreed. It was huge because of the big time endorsements Rubio received
                                        from the pundits & RINO's favorite group of Rainbows, even Trey Gowdy along with Haley, Scott & Graham rampaged
                                        across the state with Rubio the books felt it & Rubio was leading at the books bigtime for that very reason. If he was
                                        still leading in the polls right up to the SC primary Christies putdown was not the KO punch. That's established!
                                        After SC is when even the books began to realize that big time endorsements did not mean anything this time around.
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                                        • The Kraken
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                                          #90
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                                          • chico2663
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                                            #91
                                            Couldn't of said it better.
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                                            • DwightShrute
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                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by chico2663
                                              Couldn't of said it better.
                                              and elected Obama twice
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                                              • ABEHONEST
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                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                Another politically-drug-induced, idiot. Gone bye-bye, thank you.
                                                Hillary had very similar looking videos. Is she next to fade away..away, faraway? Pray to your God's, whoever they may be.
                                                Here she is, Miss America. Our soon to be champion.
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                                                • ABEHONEST
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                                                  #94
                                                  Chico sure does have a lot of energy to waste. A hint, not many are buying your blind political agenda bs. Sorry to breakup your fantasy.
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                                                  • chico2663
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                                                    #95
                                                    not so honest abe...... WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? Every point in that article is true. Instead of pointing the finger at other people tell me what in the article is false?
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                                                    • eidolon
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                                                      #96
                                                      Most people that like politics, have allowed their political party to define them, causing them to rely on basic animalistic instincts resulting in poor decisions from groupthink.
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                                                      • chico2663
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                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by eidolon
                                                        Most people that like politics have allowed their political party to define them, causing them to rely on basic animalistic instincts resulting in poor decisions from groupthink.
                                                        Look I was raised that doesn't matter who you are; if you do wrong than you get punished. But has I get older I have learned that there is two systems. Not really black and white. But powerful and everyone else. I have been told by friends that are high up in police force that the reason a lot of black are treated differently than whites is because they don't know if the whites are connected. That white guys uncle may know some influential person who could cost them their job. Blacks no so much. Now a lot of people that are police officers never graduated from college. Or if they did they did it while working. My family lawyer was an ex -policeman who got his degree and law degree while working on the force
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                                                        • 15805
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                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by d2bets
                                                          I have a perfect memory. Trump tried to mock Rubio's performance in Iowa, but Rubio had a huge unexpected night in Iowa. He was starting to rise in NH. He had the momentum. And, if you recall, after Iowa and before that debate, he became the odds-on favorite. He was up to 60% to win going into that debate. Fact. He got humiliated and he dropped precipitously in NH. Sure, he then tried to rally, but it was too late. He was knocked off his game. Of course I can't say for sure that he'd have won but for that debate, but it is quite possible. Maybe something else would have derailed him. But that debate was the moment that his rising campaign imploded. It's always hard to imagine an alternate reality, but that debate changed everything. And Trump knew it. He still owes Christie. If Trump is elected, Christie names his job.
                                                          Again to say 'If the Christie moment doesn't hppen, he's the nominee.' is juvenile.

                                                          Two weeks after NH Trump massacred the entire field in SC, he won 44 counties Rubio 2 the others
                                                          zero & Trump received all 50 delegates. Yet the day after South Carolina. Rubio's candidacy was alive &
                                                          well even after being trashed. SBR comments Feb 21.

                                                          02-21-16 03:32 AM #162
                                                          Otters27

                                                          Trump and Rubio now a Pk to win the nom.


                                                          02-21-16 12:42 PM #166
                                                          d2bets
                                                          Bookmaker now:

                                                          Trump -130
                                                          Rubio +119
                                                          Cruz +1950
                                                          Kasich +4000
                                                          Carson +45000

                                                          02-21-16 03:19 PM #171
                                                          d2bets

                                                          Here's the link to the Betfair market. Trump and Rubio almost neck and neck with no one else in the picture.

                                                          Your own words seem to defy your notion that Christie finished him off, concede the point that it was his
                                                          attempt after SC to do a bad imitation of Don Rickels that finished him off. After the drubbing in SC he
                                                          had as good a chance as anyone & all the endorsements yet Trump was the horseshoe he couldn't quite bend
                                                          when he had a golden opportunity even up to February 21st!
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                                                          • The Kraken
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                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by ABEHONEST
                                                            Another politically-drug-induced, idiot. Gone bye-bye, thank you.
                                                            Hillary had very similar looking videos. Is she next to fade away..away, faraway? Pray to your God's, whoever they may be.
                                                            Here she is, Miss America. Our soon to be champion.
                                                            Calm down kiddo before I toss you in Brooks grave
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                                                            • unusialsusp5
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                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by pilebuck13
                                                              what if she is a cyborg?
                                                              the families of the 28 people the clintons ordered murdered because they had something on them probably won't vote for her.
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                                                              • ByeShea
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                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by chico2663
                                                                Every point in that article is true. Instead of pointing the finger at other people tell me what in the article is false?
                                                                Wait - a Hillary supporter actually typed those words on SBR?

                                                                I guess there's a first time for everything.
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                                                                • The Kraken
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                                                                  #102
                                                                  Platty
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                                                                  • d2bets
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                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by 15805
                                                                    Again to say 'If the Christie moment doesn't hppen, he's the nominee.' is juvenile.

                                                                    Two weeks after NH Trump massacred the entire field in SC, he won 44 counties Rubio 2 the others
                                                                    zero & Trump received all 50 delegates. Yet the day after South Carolina. Rubio's candidacy was alive &
                                                                    well even after being trashed. SBR comments Feb 21.

                                                                    02-21-16 03:32 AM #162
                                                                    Otters27

                                                                    Trump and Rubio now a Pk to win the nom.


                                                                    02-21-16 12:42 PM #166
                                                                    d2bets
                                                                    Bookmaker now:

                                                                    Trump -130
                                                                    Rubio +119
                                                                    Cruz +1950
                                                                    Kasich +4000
                                                                    Carson +45000

                                                                    02-21-16 03:19 PM #171
                                                                    d2bets

                                                                    Here's the link to the Betfair market. Trump and Rubio almost neck and neck with no one else in the picture.

                                                                    Your own words seem to defy your notion that Christie finished him off, concede the point that it was his
                                                                    attempt after SC to do a bad imitation of Don Rickels that finished him off. After the drubbing in SC he
                                                                    had as good a chance as anyone & all the endorsements yet Trump was the horseshoe he couldn't quite bend
                                                                    when he had a golden opportunity even up to February 21st!
                                                                    In the moment, Rubio's debate moment seemed bad, but it's only in retrospect that you understand its impact. It seemed like Rubio still had a chance, but the chances were severely diminished. Trump really took the race over in NH and ran from there. If Rubio wins NH or even finishes a strong second, it changes SC and so on.

                                                                    Since you went back and looked at the odds, please go back and look to see what Rubio's odds were the day before the debate and then the day after NH (5 days later).
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                                                                    • 15805
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                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by d2bets
                                                                      In the moment, Rubio's debate moment seemed bad, but it's only in retrospect that you understand its impact. It seemed like Rubio still had a chance, but the chances were severely diminished. Trump really took the race over in NH and ran from there. If Rubio wins NH or even finishes a strong second, it changes SC and so on.

                                                                      Since you went back and looked at the odds, please go back and look to see what Rubio's odds were the day before the debate and then the day after NH (5 days later).
                                                                      You stick to your version of events & I'll stick to mine. Now I can better see why so many second rate
                                                                      historians indulge in revisionist history.
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                                                                      • ABEHONEST
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                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by chico2663
                                                                        not so honest abe...... WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? Every point in that article is true. Instead of pointing the finger at other people tell me what in the article is false?
                                                                        Your problem? You take the Lib way too many times, when, even if the supreme court would look at the same controversy as you do, and state, not-guilty, at least 50% of the time. Your version is, guilty 90 % of of the time. Do you read me? Not a chance, right? There is your problem.
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