WHY DO YOU PLAY OFFSHORE - I REALLY WANT to KNOW

[gilbert91016]

Can't find local

Try your local bar. I know at least 5 locals all solid

[jjgold]

Most locals stiff

[Da Manster!]

Most locals stiff

[LeahMichele]

Recently retired from offshores. However, my bookie only accepts me if I post up after slow paying him 1k over the course of a year.

I honestly belive this is the single biggest reason people go offshore yet most wont admit it. My guy will only let you go about $250-$300 on credit and people still disappear for months on end.

I remember a guy who bought $5 in pull tabs and had like 1 chance in 40 on the seal board where he could win $500. So the next day he calls in a $200 bet and loses. A couple days later its time to peel the seal and he wins $500. Guy didnt come in or call for almost a year thinking he owed $200 when in fact he was +300. Noone saw him to tell him. He finally shows up with 200 to find out he had 300 waiting all year.

[LeahMichele]

Where u from leah

Indiana originally. seattle area now. Graduated college moved west. Not much for decent tech jobs in indiana

[LeahMichele]

I had a thread about this about two months ago. Local scammed me out of $475. Local is a member of this board. Fuk him.

Go with someone who has been doing it a while not a joker from SBR. my local has been booking since I Was in diapers. He has given guys more than 475 when they on a shit run and lost more than they should.

[LeahMichele]

Most locals stiff

I never know if ur serious but that post is crazy. If you win 1000 someone else lost 2000. They dont have near the overhead as an offshore. They dont pay SBR to advertise. I have known 100 giys who have had 300 different locals. I have never even heard of a slow pay

[gilbert91016]

Go with someone who has been doing it a while not a joker from SBR. my local has been booking since I Was in diapers. He has given guys more than 475 when they on a shit run and lost more than they should.

This

[TheMoneyShot]

Sportsbooks are paying.... locals are lame.

[biggie12]

I never know if ur serious but that post is crazy. If you win 1000 someone else lost 2000. They dont have near the overhead as an offshore. They dont pay SBR to advertise. I have known 100 giys who have had 300 different locals. I have never even heard of a slow pay

You never know whos posting

Lots stiff though u living in a perfect world 300 different locals

[LeahMichele]

And to me finding a guy on SBR or some joker who is willing to take your bet is not finding a local.

A local is a guy who has been doing it for years and has people who have been playing with him for a while

When i was in 10th grade I bet johnny $20 on the superbowl. I won. He didnt pay. I dont think its accurate for me to say my local stiffed me.

[LeahMichele]

You never know whos posting

Lots stiff though u living in a perfect world 300 different locals

Im just saying my buddies have used a lot of different locals and I have never heard even a slow pay complaint.

Honestly i know my first guy was somewhat connected and his bosses would have fronted him a loan before they ever let him stiff.

A lot of offshore pay complaints here. Not local

[Nick Papageorgio]

Myself and players I have referred are down prolly around 200k to him combined. Don't think we will ever have to worry about him stiffing. He is an old man very obese only worry would be him passing. max bet 10% of account largest actt I have had was 20k with him. So 2 dime max bet. Locals are great.

[LeahMichele]

Sportsbooks are paying.... locals are lame.

Some are. Some are not. Most its only a matter of time. You should do a way back machine search and see who the top books were on this site 10 years ago. The A books from then almost all became no pay stiffs. And those were the A books. Aces gold, canbet, betroyal, vwager, mvpsportsbook, this is to just name a few. I have said this several times. There is a reason noone from SBR refutes it. Its true. In the next 5 to 10 years almost every A book listed will screw the players. SBR Will simply lower their rating to D- or F and wash their hands of it. They will simply have new paying advertisers rated A and everyone will think those books are perfectly safe. In time most of the posters will be new and wont even remember the books that were rated A and screwed the players. The cycle continues.

[LeahMichele]

Myself and players I have referred are down prolly around 200k to him combined. Don't think we will ever have to worry about him stiffing. He is an old man very obese only worry would be him passing.

My guy too. Supposedly hes a millionaire. I believe it. He doing it for 35 years or more. No reduced juice. Shit payout on 4+ team parlays. Still he aint ever stiffing until hes stuffing.

[Nick Papageorgio]

My guy too. Supposedly hes a millionaire. I believe it. He doing it for 35 years or more. No reduced juice. Shit payout on 4+ team parlays. Still he aint ever stiffing until hes stuffing.

Even then you have to figure he has that all taken care of...these bookies are smart they have everything ready to keep rolling in the event of passing on or jail.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

without online books sbr wouldn't exist. stay in your lane.

i got stiffed by a local but never by an offshore book.

[TheMoneyShot]

Some are. Some are not. Most its only a matter of time. You should do a way back machine search and see who the top books were on this site 10 years ago. The A books from then almost all became no pay stiffs. And those were the A books. Aces gold, canbet, betroyal, vwager, mvpsportsbook, this is to just name a few. I have said this several times. There is a reason noone from SBR refutes it. Its true. In the next 5 to 10 years almost every A book listed will screw the players. SBR Will simply lower their rating to D- or F and wash their hands of it. They will simply have new paying advertisers rated A and everyone will think those books are perfectly safe. In time most of the posters will be new and wont even remember the books that were rated A and screwed the players. The cycle continues.

V-Wager was my first book I ever made a deposit at. This was well before I ever knew SBR existed. Knew nothing about offshore sportsbooks. Just took a chance.... the website seemed legit. That was back in 1999.

We all know there are paid advertisers at SBR. The "A Ratings" don't change much. You can also tell by just basically doing business transactions with these books... who are real... and who are frauds.

The Best Book right now "IMO" is Heritage Sports. The pay quickly. Customer chat support is extremely fast.... not only fast... they are extremely friendly. You never hear of a problem with a payout.

Sure... there are books they could go under... and we have no idea why they are going under??? Maybe the guy running the operation is a party animal? Who knows?

I don't think SBR would intentionally mislead you. It's not the vibe I'm getting.

Locals don't have variety.... locals want you to lose just as much as regular sportsbooks. I wouldn't care to meet up with my local once a week to EVEN UP. I have better things to do. Sounds like a mega pain in the a$$.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

money you're talking to a guy that's bad mouthed heritage last month because he was cashing out $298 and had to pay $50 in fees. he couldn't wait couple days for the free payout.

that's all i have to say. that's pathetic.

[TheMoneyShot]

money you're talking to a guy that's bad mouthed heritage last month because he was cashing out $298 and had to pay $50 in fees because he couldn't wait couple days for the free payout.

that's all i have to say. that's pathetic.

Who did that?!?!?!

[Ghenghis Kahn]

Who did that?!?!?!

the op

[TheMoneyShot]

the op

Wow. I had no clue. Unreal.

[goduke]

Lol. Everyone says that until its them. Tell me please - what did the 500+ posters who got fuked by canbet do wrong besides listening to the A rating SBR Gave the book ?

What did racrac do wrong thatd causing him to what 2+ months for a withdraw from a So called " top 5 book"

What did the thousands who got fukked by aces gold (Rating A) do wrong. Do tell.

They trusted one websites opinions. Dive deeper then that. and if you encounter an issue move on, simple as that. Look at their liquidity, test the site early on a big withdrawal and a small withdrawal. Bodog took 4 months to pay me 35k. Well I got my money and never gave them a second chance and won't touch bovada because of it. That was my very first book and then I learned. I went to betjamaica and they were awesome and now I'm at bookmaker and zero issues. Honestly how about you just play with your local and some of us will stick with offshore and stop making annoying threads because weren't you just bitching about a really small withdrawal the other day? Maybe you should stick to local offshore might be too big for you. But locals get ratted out all the time by people who dont want to pay so good luck with that

[Ghenghis Kahn]

Wow. I had no clue. Unreal.

and the guy has 0 bitcoin but bad mouths bitcoin. op is just a broke dikk complainer.

[LeahMichele]

Did you have money at vwager when they stop paying ? I had $1425 or so.

I started at vwager and dalton wagners other books when they were always offering the deposit 200 get 50 bonus 2x rollover 30 days before payout. Then they started offering me 200 bonus for 200 which was red flag. I asked on the forums and everyone said daltons brillant as everyone loses the 400 before 30 days anyway.

These books started slow paying me and loading me with excuses and I knew my 1400 wAs gone. I was posting at the shrinks site then and i kept posting about my troubles with their A book vwager and mvpsportsbook. They pretty much told me to STFU and when i didnt Wilheim banned me.

Then maybe 6 months later they were full no pay and that site simply told everyone too bad so sad and found a new advertiser to take the place. I lost my faith in so called watchdog sites

[LeahMichele]

Even then you have to figure he has that all taken care of...these bookies are smart they have everything ready to keep rolling in the event of passing on or jail.

Yeah my guy has his son involved. Hes about 30 id say so hell be around

[LeahMichele]

They trusted one websites opinions. Dive deeper then that. and if you encounter an issue move on, simple as that. Look at their liquidity, test the site early on a big withdrawal and a small withdrawal. Bodog took 4 months to pay me 35k. Well I got my money and never gave them a second chance and won't touch bovada because of it. That was my very first book and then I learned. I went to betjamaica and they were awesome and now I'm at bookmaker and zero issues. Honestly how about you just play with your local and some of us will stick with offshore and stop making annoying threads because weren't you just bitching about a really small withdrawal the other day? Maybe you should stick to local offshore might be too big for you. But locals get ratted out all the time by people who dont want to pay so good luck with that

Every forum had aces gold #1. Aces gold an from start to heavy advertise for good rating and get lots of big deposits from bonus offers and take it.aces gold maybe only around 1 or 2 years

[TheMoneyShot]

Did you have money at vwager when they stop paying ? I had $1425 or so.

I started at vwager and dalton wagners other books when they were always offering the deposit 200 get 50 bonus 2x rollover 30 days before payout. Then they started offering me 200 bonus for 200 which was red flag. I asked on the forums and everyone said daltons brillant as everyone loses the 400 before 30 days anyway.

I don't want to release so many details. But yes I was paid.... it was 5 figures. SBR actually got them to pay me. V-Wager didn't want to pay me. I believe I spoke to Dalton Wagner directly as well.

90 days later.... V-Wager's website didn't exist anymore.

[LeahMichele]

Yeah maybe thats where i fukked up. I was posting at a different forum and they 100% denied that there was any problem and banned any posters who posted otherwise. That forum didnt help anyone get paid and it really soured me on watchdogs and offshores. Maybe you would feel the same if you lost those 5 figures or maybe you would forgive. I dont know but i can see the same problems happening now that theres more coming soon. JMO

[DeathAdder]

Why offshore is king
1. Place wagers 24/7 in the comfort of your home
2. Don't have to worry about your kneecaps if you stiff your local bookie
3. Locals don't offer continual bonuses and freeplays
4. Placing bets 30 seconds online compared to driving to your local joint then having to wait to place wager

Offshore>Locals AINEC!!!

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

money you're talking to a guy that's bad mouthed heritage last month because he was cashing out $298 and had to pay $50 in fees. he couldn't wait couple days for the free payout.

that's all i have to say. that's pathetic.

and the guy has 0 bitcoin but bad mouths bitcoin. op is just a broke dikk complainer.

... WoRd

[goduke]

Every forum had aces gold #1. Aces gold an from start to heavy advertise for good rating and get lots of big deposits from bonus offers and take it.aces gold maybe only around 1 or 2 years

There's the kicker...only around 1-2 years. Don't choose books that haven't been around awhile too

[LT Profits]

Offshore is the BEST option because of reduced juice and more betting options. Stick to the top established books and you will be fine. Besides, Bitcoin makes it even easier to cash out these days without lengthy delays.

[slayer14]

Costa Rican bookies lacking facilities

[rkelly110]

My kids' old babysitter's husband was a bookie. Got busted. All funds seized. If you had a big winning bet, say bye bye.

If the bookie had your info, you might go bye bye also.

I don't keep more than a grand in offshore books. If they go under, I'm out a grand. No big deal.
You can make a bet 5 mins before the game at lightning internet speeds compared to calling or texting your boy
who might not get your bet.

I do have a problem with my info out there in offshore accounts.