If You Claim to Have a "Model," a "System," or Anything of the Sort...

[chargers4222]

Also, no one on this forum or any other forum has ever "handicapped" a game. You're "selecting" between two options. You're not a "handicapper," you're a gambler, and probably a degenerate as well.

[jjgold]

Charger how many loans do you have?

[Sam Odom]

jj . why is this guy so angry ?

[jjgold]

jj . why is this guy so angry ?

Barreled in Sammy

Frustrated

I am too..no pussy for 14 years, bald and losing gambler

SAMMY NOT TODAY>>DO NOT FUK WITH ME

[LT Profits]

You have won 138 picks and lost 133 picks. If I flipped a coin 271 times, I would have literally the exact same results. Your model and your system means nothing, I'm sorry to break it to you.

You are missing the whole point, we are talking about BASEBALL, which is a money line sport where value is key. Thus, W/L record means nothing becuase units is all that matters. In fact, 138-133 is quite good when average odds are around +110. Convert that to an ATS sport record and the equivalent would be 152-133 at even money.

[SharpAngles]

My model is telling me chargers4222 is fired the fuk up

[JAKEPEAVY21]

chargers, I'm fired up about Bosa!!

the D could take a big step forward this season

[LT Profits]

You are missing the whole point, we are talking about BASEBALL, which is a money line sport where value is key. Thus, W/L record means nothing becuase units is all that matters. In fact, 138-133 is quite good when average odds are around +110. Convert that to an ATS sport record and the equivalent would be 152-133 at even money.

Note that last year was 523-486-26, +93.78, so the units won was more than double the W-L. So you can't just look at record because baseball is not a "coin-flip" sport due to the odds.

[juicername]

Also, no one on this forum or any other forum has ever "handicapped" a game. You're "selecting" between two options. You're not a "handicapper," you're a gambler, and probably a degenerate as well.

Nice projection. Just because that's how you make your picks does not mean that everyone else does. It's weird to find guys like you on a sportsbetting forum, a member since 2010 nonetheless. Would have thought you should have picked up some things by now.

[chargers4222]

Nice projection. Just because that's how you make your picks does not mean that everyone else does. It's weird to find guys like you on a sportsbetting forum, a member since 2010 nonetheless. Would have thought you should have picked up some things by now.

Oh no, trust me, I'm quite sure you truly believe that you are doing some hardcore handicapping with your spreadsheets and propeller hat. But alas, you are not. It's all a mirage, I promise. Flip a coin, you'll do better.

[chargers4222]

Note that last year was 523-486-26, +93.78, so the units won was more than double the W-L. So you can't just look at record because baseball is not a "coin-flip" sport due to the odds.

I have no way of verifying this. Even if it's true, you lost 486 games. Your system was wrong 486 times. I've created my own system after years of arduous studying, which I have posted in the MLB forum for all to look at. I am quite sure that it will equal, if not exceed, your incredibly accurate model that lost 486 times last year.

[unusialsusp5]

You have won 138 picks and lost 133 picks. If I flipped a coin 271 times, I would have literally the exact same results. Your model and your system means nothing, I'm sorry to break it to you.

his model was 25 games below .500 in late april and now is 5 games over so although it struggled early it means something to those who have followed it and are cashing consistently or building up their balances.

[LT Profits]

I have no way of verifying this. Even if it's true, you lost 486 games. Your system was wrong 486 times. I've created my own system after years of arduous studying, which I have posted in the MLB forum for all to look at. I am quite sure that it will equal, if not exceed, your incredibly accurate model that lost 486 times last year.

Your point is totally irrelevant. I could counter that the model won 523 times. But all that matters is the 93.78 units produced last season, now over 100 units since the beginning of last year when you add in the first two months of this season.

[LT Profits]

I have no way of verifying this.

Of course you do, just go back and check my daily threads.

[jjgold]

LT has the best models in the business and we're lucky he is here at SBR

[RudyRuetigger]

chargers, how much are you down pal??

[LT Profits]

LT has the best models in the business and we're lucky he is here at SBR

Baseball yes, other sports, meh. Currently +10 YTD in NBA and +14 YTD in NHL, better than losing I guess.

[SharpAngles]

I have no way of verifying this. Even if it's true, you lost 486 games. Your system was wrong 486 times. I've created my own system after years of arduous studying, which I have posted in the MLB forum for all to look at. I am quite sure that it will equal, if not exceed, your incredibly accurate model that lost 486 times last year.

Gotta be trolling with this garbage post

Who gives a flying fuk about record when you're up 90+ units ?!?!

[Thor4140]

No system is gonna work if people are fixing games. Once u get past thinking these games are on the up and up u will start to become a bettor gambler. The problem is that we live in what might be the dumbest country on the planet. Heck we got people watching Fox News and swearing by it lol. 99 percent of this country is stealing and betting on sports is the biggest cash cow out there. It is even bigger than the stock market which house some of our greatest thieves. I know that these athletes are some of ur hero's but when the league tells them to lay down they lay down. It is a trillion dollar business and they win cause they hold all the cards. Well they win with most of ya.

[thunderous]

I guess Lt and others are missing the point here. What chargers is trying to say having a system doesn't guarantee long term winning and it's not fool proof.

I don't have any system and I am up 200+ units. Now I can't compare that to Lt because I bet some games at 1 unit while the ones I like I bet upto 10 12 units which he doesn't do. If u are hot u are hot and have to take advantage of the good run. After all this is gambling and to be profitable long term you have to have the instinct to bet big when ahead and the discipline to stay away when things aren't going your way.

[jjgold]

just try and win men using whatever method you like

Everyone different

[Booya711]

Chargers is a known idiot so......

[Sam Odom]

111322

investigate

[pavyracer]

Modeling is for jerkoffs. You need to have a gut feeling when gambling.

[KVB]

Modeling is for jerkoffs. You need to have a gut feeling when gambling.

...For the good "gut" bettors, and I have posted on this before, it can be an invaluable tool. Years of experience in subjective betting can result in an excellent intuitive feel. Some guys are very good at this type of betting.

The problem occurs in the long haul. Like other types of bettors, the streaks and emotions involved can get to the "gut" bettor, short circuiting both intuitive thought and rational thinking.

When betting with the gut always keep a level head; anything less at the wrong time could result in downward spiral real fast...

[chargers4222]

Still waiting for someone to divulge how they concocted this genius system of theirs by using publicly available information while they bang blonde whores and smoke Jamaican kush because they make so much money with their algorithm. JJ is probably the only person on the entire website who is self-deprecating and cops to losing money. Yet oddly enough, he wins most of the picks I see him post.

[chargers4222]

However, despite my vitriol towards people who think they're using a "mathematical model," I have to say it's not as bad as the teenage gambling touts on twitter. If you want a good laugh one day, check it out. Every one of them has a picture of Matthew McConaughey in "Two for the Money" or Leo in "Wolf of Wall Street."

"18-1 LAST 19 PICKS....ALL I DO IS WIN....MONEY TRAIN IS LEAVING THE STATION. PAYPAL ME $15 FOR TONIGHT'S HOT 3-PACK OF PICKS. BOOM BABY!!!!"

It's unrelated to models and systems, but since I'm on the topic of people in the gambling world that I despise, it's worth noting that these are the worst people on the planet.

[KVB]

Still waiting for someone to divulge how they concocted this genius system of theirs by using publicly available information...

So all of this was a ploy to get some sharp bettors to reveal their methods?

I can say this much, and I've said it before...track your bets and why you made them. Over time this becomes information that only you have.

It's not the information but how you use it. That said, no need to go around the block to get next door.

I think it was Ghenghis Kahn who mentioned taking a shot now and then in order to overcome the vig in one of Odom's threads.

It's not bad advice and a decent formula to keep you just ahead or near even can help with this strategy.

[KVB]

..."18-1 LAST 19 PICKS....ALL I DO IS WIN....MONEY TRAIN IS LEAVING THE STATION. PAYPAL ME $15 FOR TONIGHT'S HOT 3-PACK OF PICKS. BOOM BABY!!!!"...

Unreal.

[chargers4222]

So all of this was a ploy to get some sharp bettors to reveal their methods?

I can say this much, and I've said it before...track your bets and why you made them. Over time this becomes information that only you have.

It's not the information but how you use it. That said, no need to go around the block to get next door.

I think it was Ghenghis Kahn who mentioned taking a shot now and then in order to overcome the vig in one of Odom's threads.

It's not bad advice and a decent formula to keep you just ahead or near even can help with this strategy.

Yes, you caught me, just part of my master ploy to finally unveil the coveted "LT Profits 138-133 MLB System." Again, not trying to single him out, just the only one I can think of off the top of my head. I can promise you wholeheartedly that I would rather pick games based on the color of my shit than someone's "model" on SBR. They don't have a model. They don't have anything. Them saying they have a model that predicts sporting events is the ploy.

[chargers4222]

Seriously, how can you possibly sit there on SBR.com and try to tell people you have a model that predicts the winner of sporting events? You people are that dense? I mean, I know you are so I shouldn't be asking that rhetorically, but really, are you?

[LT Profits]

Yes, you caught me, just part of my master ploy to finally unveil the coveted "LT Profits 138-133 MLB System." Again, not trying to single him out, just the only one I can think of off the top of my head. I can promise you wholeheartedly that I would rather pick games based on the color of my shit than someone's "model" on SBR. They don't have a model. They don't have anything. Them saying they have a model that predicts sporting events is the ploy.

So you would not want to follow a model that is up more than +100 units since last year. Got it.

I am not asking you to follow or anything like that, I am just refuting your ridiculous assertion that winning models do not exist. Try flipping a coin over 1300 MLB plays and finishing over +100 units.

[Darkside Magick]

Charger is actually right!

[Darkside Magick]

So you would not want to follow a model that is up more than +100 units since last year. Got it.

I am not asking you to follow or anything like that, I am just refuting your ridiculous assertion that winning models do not exist. Try flipping a coin over 1300 MLB plays and finishing over +100 units.

Units mean nothing...you don't get paid in units...only stats that really count is ROI

[LT Profits]

Units mean nothing

Units WON means everything. Better to have more units won over more plays with a lower ROI than less units won over less plays with a higher ROI (over the same timespan of course). Units won represents tangible money in your pocket. Sure people could strive for higher ROI and higher winning percentage, but those that do are not playing enough games (assuming plays are +EV) and leaving money on the table.