Report: Tom Brady's 'Deflategate' suspension reinstated by appeals court

[Grits n' Gravy]

NFLPA will likely file an appeal for Brady within next 10-12 days. That stops suspension until case is heard again or courts refuse to hear it. The union will stand up with their people so Goodell doesn't get to unilaterally determine discipline for the players. It sets a bad precedent. 4 judges have heard this case already and they are split 2-2 on a ruling. It will be heard again at the expense of taxpayers and general common sense.

Odds ratzzz is butt hurt because Brady wouldn't give him an autograph. -900000000000.

[Ratzz]

NFLPA will likely file an appeal for Brady within next 10-12 days. That stops suspension until case is heard again or courts refuse to hear it. The union will stand up with their people so Goodell doesn't get to unilaterally determine discipline for the players. It sets a bad precedent. 4 judges have heard this case already and they are split 2-2 on a ruling. It will be heard again at the expense of taxpayers and general common sense.

Odds ratzzz is butt hurt because Brady wouldn't give him an autograph. -900000000000.

there is zero chance that a higher court hears this case.
the higher it goes, the more serious the person is behind the bench (that's why this last one was reversed)

a serious judge will be greatly annoyed at a player for even daring to escalate this particular issue, and will deny the appeal and probably let him have it in the courtroom.

Brady will only go down in flames further. Karma wins again.

[Ratzz]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/myers-deflategate-case-supreme-court-article-1.2614316

this is why the suspension will not be overturned



So, what can Brady do next if there is no deal with Goodell? He is expected to appeal to the full panel of 13 judges in the Second Circuit after Monday’s ruling becomes a mandate within 15 days.
Daniel Wallach, a sports law expert at Becker and Poliakoff in Fort Lauderdale, has been following the Brady case closely. He was in court March 3 when lawyers made their arguments before the three judges. He told the Daily News on Monday that only about 1% of appeals cases brought to the full panel of judges in the Second Circuit actually are accepted and heard.
“Panel decisions are rarely revisited by the Second Circuit. Usually one or two per year,” Wallach said. “It’s the judicial equivalent of winning Powerball.”

[Harry N. Lloyd]

Ratzz, you are seriously gonna use the NY Daily News as a credible source?! You're a fckin d-bag!!

[Ratzz]

the ONLY way 13 fukkin' judges get together to discuss a cheat football player is to UNANIMOUSLY UPHOLD THE SUSPENSION.

Brady HAD a chance to clear himself... by submitting his cell phone texts.

and he destroyed his cell phone on the very morning he was deliver it to authorities.
that is obstruction of justice in most instances, and he was lucky not to be charged with that.

CASE OVER.

BRADY BELICHIK CONFIRMED CHEATERS (again)

NO Hall of Fame

retirement wil be a disgrace

[Joe Sharp]

Court grants Brady extension to appeal 'Deflategate' decision

The Associated Press May 3, 2016 6:53 PM

NEW YORK - Tom Brady's lawyers will get another two weeks to appeal his ''Deflategate'' suspension.

The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Manhattan said Brady could have until May 23 to decide whether to ask for a rehearing in front of the same three-judge panel or a new hearing - called ''en banc'' - in front of the entire circuit.

The court ruled 2-1 on April 25 ruled that Commissioner Roger Goodell was within his rights to suspend Brady for four games for his role in using improperly inflated footballs in the 2015 AFC championship game.

Brady was given two weeks to appeal. But since then, he has added top lawyer Ted Olson to his team.

Olson has experience arguing in front of the Supreme Court, including in the Bush v. Gore case that settled the 2000 presidential election. Olson was also involved in the case that overturned California's ban on same-sex marriages.

[Joe Sharp]

What do you make of this, Ratzz?

[pavyracer]

What do you make of this, Ratzz?

I'd tell you what I make. Brady is going to pay a lot of money to all these top lawyers by the time all is set and done. I'm pretty sure the lawyer and court fees will be more than the 4 games of salary he is fighting.

[Joe Sharp]

That's a good point Pavy.

I don't think Brady cares about the money... it's about the competition vs Goodell. I don't think Brady wins this one but I just knew he wouldn't let it go and accept the 4 games without a fight.

[Joe Sharp]

Tom Brady filing appeal to have suspension case reheard

Dan Wilkins May 23, 2016 8:07 AM

The attorneys for New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady told ABC News on Monday that they will officially file an appeal to have his suspension case reheard in the 2nd U.S. circuit court of appeals.

More to come

[JayDr3am]

hes going to get away from it guys its obvious

[Grits n' Gravy]

I'd tell you what I make. Brady is going to pay a lot of money to all these top lawyers by the time all is set and done. I'm pretty sure the lawyer and court fees will be more than the 4 games of salary he is fighting.

Doesn't NFLPA pick up legal fees?

[BriGuy]

Montana/Walsh no scandals. Just wins.

Jerry Rice admitted he used stick'em. I'd bet Joe and Bill were at least generally aware of that, wouldn't you?

[BriGuy]

the ONLY way 13 fukkin' judges get together to discuss a cheat football player is to UNANIMOUSLY UPHOLD THE SUSPENSION.

Brady HAD a chance to clear himself... by submitting his cell phone texts.

and he destroyed his cell phone on the very morning he was deliver it to authorities.
that is obstruction of justice in most instances, and he was lucky not to be charged with that.

OK first of all, this isn't a criminal court of law or a police investigation. Nobody is getting charged with Obstruction of Justice no matter what he did.

Second of all, Wells told Brady he didn't need his phone. Focusing on the fact the Brady destroyed it after that fact is all just one big huge red herring. It is the desperate hope that the appearance of impropriety will sway the minds of useful idiots - much like yourself.

3rd of all, 1 of the 13 federal judges has already ruled in Brady's favor, so it certainly isn't going to be "unanimously upheld." Fact is 4 federal judges have ruled on this case with 2 for the NFL and 2 for Brady. Say what you like, but it is clear that reasonable minds can disagree on what the proper ruling should be.

But by all means, please continue to froth at the mouth, showing us all how clueless you are.

[jtoler]

Its just 4 games, I would have given a much stiffer penalty. Brady and the Patriots send bad messages to the youth of the world by cheating.

[BriGuy]

there is zero chance that a higher court hears this case.
the higher it goes, the more serious the person is behind the bench (that's why this last one was reversed)

a serious judge will be greatly annoyed at a player for even daring to escalate this particular issue, and will deny the appeal and probably let him have it in the courtroom.

Brady will only go down in flames further. Karma wins again.

The NFL is the ones that escalated at every step of the way so far. They escalated it by filing their original "Motion to Confirm" lawsuit and then they escalated it to the Federal Court of Appeals when they lost the District Court ruling.

Brady isn't even escalating it with today's filing. He just wants more judges at the same level to rule. But by all means, please continue to froth at the mouth, showing us all how clueless you are.

[BriGuy]

The simple, undeniable facts are:

1) It was the most severe punishment to a team and to a player (not accused of an actual crime) possible for....
2) A simple equipment violations which was based on....
3) The flimsiest of evidence suggesting guilt

You can tell there is nothing of substance here because the haters cannot discuss this case in a vacuum. They always have to refer back 9 years to "Spygate".

[jtoler]

The simple, undeniable facts are:

1) It was the most severe punishment to a team and to a player (not accused of an actual crime) possible for....
2) A simple equipment violations which was based on....
3) The flimsiest of evidence suggesting guilt

You can tell there is nothing of substance here because the haters cannot discuss this case in a vacuum. They always have to refer back 9 years to "Spygate".

Are you from Mass.?

[BriGuy]

Are you from Mass.?

Nope. Texas. However, one does not need to be from Massachusetts to have an intelligent take on the situation.

[BriGuy]

Its just 4 games, I would have given a much stiffer penalty. Brady and the Patriots send bad messages to the youth of the world by cheating.

[R.P. McMurphy]

Briguy gets it! This is a witchunt/business matter end of day which in no way makes it justified. And no you don't have to be from Mass or a Pats fan to not be a fukkin idiot like Ratzz who is clouded by his hatred. He keeps bringing up Walsh/Montana like they are the holy grail who never cheated. Yet aside from Rice admissions , Montana also stated a few years back his o-line lubed their jerseys. They do have other scandals but those are 2 stated by main faces of their franchise history with full admission. EVERYONE cheats!!!

[MoneyLineDawg]

Anybody that actually knows what they're talking about....can you give us the chances that Brady gets an appeal here?

[MoneyLineDawg]

The simple, undeniable facts are:

1) It was the most severe punishment to a team and to a player (not accused of an actual crime) possible for....
2) A simple equipment violations which was based on....
3) The flimsiest of evidence suggesting guilt

You can tell there is nothing of substance here because the haters cannot discuss this case in a vacuum. They always have to refer back 9 years to "Spygate".

The texting/calling the equipment guy "the deflator" was the main thing for me...I've never heard a good explanation for that from Pats defenders

The losing weight excuse can't be serious

http://kickoffcoverage.com/patriots-explanation-of-the-deflator-is-one-for-the-ages/

[R.P. McMurphy]

I just wish whole thing go away MLD honestly it's beyond ridiculous but neither side will budge from their ego or in Brady's case unwavering cause for justice. This suspension is beyond any precedent for his "crime" and really sad compared to the 2 games they initially handed Rice for knocking out a women!!! And yes the league felt 2 was ok with Rice obviously they only recanted to save face from major public uproar.

Brady gets twice suspension for a jaywalking misdemeanor , and Rice gets half for assault? Why should anyone be shocked I guess the league works just like our justice system on street does which is criminal.

[R.P. McMurphy]

Well the texting can be damning I suppose. In reality he does nothing that many other Qb's have stated they do as well. In a case like this when you have actual players coming to his aide saying they do same thing or "understand" and think this is b.s. then something smells rotten. This is all between the "suits" who are scum plain/simple.

There are also reports 11/12 balls I believe it was were tested as fine and within league standard. Yet 1 ball that's "guilty" is on Colts sideline for however long , passed around possibly like a trading card? If this were a murder trial and I'm going down , yet the gun I "supposedly" used was passed around and in hands of other criminals with their prints all over it.....yeah technically or not could result in mistrial! Still though this shit needs to end the league has no issue dominating headlines this is just a terrible look.

[BriGuy]

Anybody that actually knows what they're talking about....can you give us the chances that Brady gets an appeal here?

The overall consensus if that he has a slim chance. However, since the decision was rendered, Brady added probably the best appellate litigator to his team. Theodore Olson carries a great deal of respect in legal circles.

If Brady fails here, he could still appeal to the US Supreme Court. While that's another longshot, he may get some help from Adrian Peterson. If Peterson wins his court case against the NFL (where we are currently awaiting the ruling) then what we have is a situation called a "Split Circuit". That means one federal district ruled one way and a different federal district ruled a different way. Those are the types of cases the USSC is known for taking.

[R.P. McMurphy]

Just throw out the weight of the football. I'm no lawyer here this is just common sense 101 people! That ball went to enemy terrority before being turned over , and had PLENTY of opportunity to be tampered with. Inadmissible bottom line so forget the fukking ball. Rest is texts and hearsay whatever can be deciphered from that. But your "smoking gun" is soiled. Fact league has very thin ice to stand on yet still gives death sentence is laughable. Should have swallowed their pride said 1 gm suspended with no pay or whatever. But if your Nazi Roger you must at least try and find a middle ground while saving face.

[MoneyLineDawg]

Gun to your head you have to say yes they did it but punishment was definitely more than most expected

Needs to end soon one way or another agreed

[BriGuy]

The texting/calling the equipment guy "the deflator" was the main thing for me...I've never heard a good explanation for that from Pats defenders

This is what I mean by the flimsiest of evidence. The NFL looked at about 2 years worth of texts and that is the worst thing they found. One single instance where the dipshit called himself "the deflator". That text was sent in May of 2014, a full 8 months before the AFCCG itself.

Nowhere does he say he deflates the balls after the referees check them
Nowhere does he say he deflates them below legal limits
Nowhere does he say anything about doing anything not permitted.

Really, that's all the haters have to hang their hats on. From just that one single text taken from 2 years worth of data, which doesn't even mention doing anything illegal, comes this whole ridiculously elaborate scheme.

I bet if I read every text you've sent over the past 2 years, I could find something which made you look guilty for something. I sure as hell know if you did the same thing to my phone, you would find texts that could make me look like a career criminal.

[MoneyLineDawg]

This is what I mean by the flimsiest of evidence. The NFL looked at about 2 years worth of texts and that is the worst thing they found. That text was sent in May of 2014, a full 9 months before the AFCCG itself.

Nowhere does he say he deflates the balls after the referees check them
Nowhere does he say he deflates them below legal limits
Nowhere does he say anything about doing anything not permitted.

Really, that's all the haters have to hang their hats on. From just that one single text taken from 2 years worth of data, which doesn't even mention doing anything illegal, comes this whole ridiculously elaborate scheme.

I bet if I read every text you've sent over the past 2 years, I could find something which made you look guilty for something. I sure as hell know if you did the same thing to my phone, you would find texts that could make me look like a career criminal.

The thought is that the deflating has been going on for years....would make sense if that's how Brady liked the footballs

What are the odds he's called the deflator....the fukkin deflator? I've never heard anyone ever called that in my life in any situation I mean come on

So a text like that months back makes sense

Taking everything into consideration, do you think they deflated them or not? Just yes or no? Not if there was good evidence or one smoking gun

Yes is the easy answer for me but I'm just over it and so is everyone else

[R.P. McMurphy]

1 game that's it if you wanna make Brady the fallguy in a league where "cheating" is rampant. ! 4 games is unprecedented when just couple years back they levied half that for assaulting a women. And spare me the "integrity of the league" hogwash lol. That's as credible as saying USA is most free country on earth and full of liberty. Just brainwashing b.s. by the man who holds you prisoner while having NOTHING to substantiate such a claim.

[MoneyLineDawg]

1 game that's it if you wanna make Brady the fallguy in a league where "cheating" is rampant. ! 4 games is unprecedented when just couple years back they levied half that for assaulting a women. And spare me the "integrity of the league" hogwash lol. That's as credible as saying USA is most free country on earth and full of liberty. Just brainwashing b.s. by the man who holds you prisoner while having NOTHING to substantiate such a claim.

Seems like teams were sick of the Patriots always pushing the line and the NFL had a lot of heat from teams like the Ravens and Colts to come down hard on them. Kraft took it like a bitch too even Pats fans are pissed at him

Not saying it's right or wrong but that's why

[BriGuy]

The thought is that the deflating has been going on for years....would make sense if that's how Brady liked the footballs

What are the odds he's called the deflator....the fukkin deflator? I've never heard anyone ever called that in my life in any situation I mean come on

He is an equipment manager. Managing equipment and preparing the balls is, you know, his job. You claim it has been going on for years, and yet from years of text messaging, all you have is this one single text to back up your claim, which doesn't even mention any wrongdoing.

So a text like that months back makes sense

Taking everything into consideration, do you think they deflated them or not? Just yes or no? Not if there was good evidence or one smoking gun

No I don't because the balls were within the scientific range of where the Laws of Physics said they should be. In order to believe they were illegally deflated, you have to believe one of the 2 following scenarios:

1) They only deflated some of the 12 balls, not all of them, or...
2) They deflated all 12, but by such a miniscule amount as to not even register a statistically significant change.

Yes is the easy answer for me but I'm just over it and so is everyone else

Well for someone who claims to be over it, you are sure making an awful lot of posts on the subject.

[R.P. McMurphy]

I hear ya MLD but everyone pushes the line to some degree. As I've said before in NO way am I Pats fan. But this is a great champion team, Brady/Beli are legit greats. Do they cheat or push limits? Sure they do I have little doubt. But would this be happening to some "nobody" organization or bad team like Tampa or Lions for same offense? You bet your ass it wouldn't and that's my problem. This is politics not "justice".

[MoneyLineDawg]

He is an equipment manager. Managing equipment and preparing the balls is, you know, his job. You claim it has been going on for years, and yet from years of text messaging, all you have is this one single text to back up your claim, which doesn't even mention any wrongdoing.

No I don't because the balls were within the scientific range of where the Laws of Physics said they should be. In order to believe they were illegally deflated, you have to believe one of the 2 following scenarios:

1) They only deflated some of the 12 balls, not all of them, or...
2) They deflated all 12, but by such a miniscule amount as to not even register a statistically significant change.
Well for someone who claims to be over it, you are sure making an awful lot of posts on the subject.

"The Deflator" was the same guy suspected of taking footballs and letting air out after being checked in by the refs

Nothing more needs to be said....Oh yeah Brady routinely destroys his phones too

You're in the minority